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Sunday 24 July 2022

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Laura: Hello and welcome to another episode of Lex Education, the science comedy podcast, where me, Laura Lex, tries to learn science from my real life brother, Ron.
Ron: Hello, I'm Ron.
Laura: That is Ron.
Laura: How are you doing, Ron?
Ron: I'm okay.
Ron: I'm very exhausted.
Laura: You've had a big week in your actual job job?
Ron: A big week in my actual job job.
Ron: And then you were in Brussels before that.
Ron: And then what they don't tell you about being an adult is a lot of doing jobs is drinking.
Ron: So it's been like seven days on the truck.
Ron: Yesterday, I accidentally ate three full English breakfast as well, so I've had to do a lot of digesting as well.
Laura: That doesn't sound like an accident.
Laura: That sounds amazing.
Ron: Well, we were in the hotel and I had a brilliant plan to get up in time for breakfast, eat a bunch and then go back to sleep, which was amazing.
Ron: Two plates of full English breakfast at this buffet.
Ron: And then we went to a cafe, and then Judith and our friend Ross put me on the spot ordering.
Ron: I panicked and ordered another thing called a mega breakfast about 3 hours later.
Ron: Yeah, that's what I'm going through.
Laura: It's one of the things I miss most now that I'm vegetarian, is full English breakfast.
Laura: Because if I'm going to eat meat, I like it to be really cruddy meat.
Laura: Like real cruddy.
Laura: I don't want a fine steak, I want a sausage that barely resembles but.
Ron: That'S more eco friendly.
Laura: You think?
Laura: Yeah, because it's waste products.
Laura: Practically dogfish.
Ron: It's all of the noses and buttholes and Grundles and stuff.
Ron: Like, it's not just the sort of the prime leg or the wing or whatever.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: I still don't want to eat things at the moment.
Laura: We've got some thank yous to do, firstly, as always.
Laura: Thank you, podspike.
Laura: They're probably the reason you're listening to this, because they helped us choose a hosting site, which is where you put your podcast, and then it gets sucked into all the other places that a podcast can be.
Laura: That's right, isn't it?
Ron: Wrong.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: And you might have seen, like, we were in the podcast of the week the other day.
Ron: No big deal.
Ron: But that's all.
Ron: Fod spike.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: They wrote us press releases.
Laura: It's still us a little bit because we've made a nice podcast.
Laura: But also them.
Laura: It was them in a big way.
Laura: So thank you very much for podspike.
Laura: Also, we've got a massive thank you to Carol, who's made us a scrabble tableau.
Ron: Scrablo?
Laura: Yes, a scrablo.
Laura: So Carol has made us a framed art installation.
Laura: We'll put it on the Instagram.
Laura: But thank you so much, Carol.
Laura: It's our first fan art.
Laura: Ron, it is your first ever.
Ron: I've never had a thing made for me before and it's just dismissed.
Ron: It's my catchphrase.
Ron: It's basically all me.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Well, thank you so much, Carol.
Laura: We love it.
Laura: And we will pop it on the instagram this week.
Laura: Paisley Buddy has also on Twitter, has sent us a very cool interactive periodic table, which I'll put a link to it in the show description.
Laura: Thank you for showing us that, Paisley Buddy.
Ron: A big well done to Jenny, for being the person with the even less accessible definition of a metre.
Laura: Last week, I said a metre was about a wheelbarrow and Ron laughed a lot.
Laura: So we asked you on social media, how do you picture of roughly a metre?
Laura: And we got some interesting responses back.
Laura: Quite a lot of people just said what you said, Ron do.
Laura: They just picked it a metre ruler.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Including your husband paragon of sensibility.
Laura: No, he married me.
Laura: How can you possibly call him that?
Laura: Jenny offered us a buzzard's wing span.
Ron: Nonsense.
Ron: That doesn't help.
Laura: No.
Laura: You're going to choose that over a wheelbarrow?
Laura: You're full.
Ron: How many bars can you fit in a wheelbarrow?
Ron: Question.
Laura: Depends how argumentative they are about it.
Laura: A large step.
Laura: That's crazy, because one of Tom's large steps is way different to one of mine.
Ron: Yes, but I think that was Kevin, wasn't it?
Laura: I believe so.
Ron: If he's picturing one of Tom's largest steps instead of his own, then yes, he is mad.
Ron: But I presume he's imagining his own legs and body.
Laura: And also a guitar.
Laura: That was another option.
Laura: But I think a guitar is longer than a metre.
Ron: You think a guitar is bigger than a wheelbarrow?
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: That's the problem with this system.
Laura: Size is subjective.
Laura: So we've also had some brilliant puns.
Laura: Keep them coming.
Laura: We're enjoying those.
Ron: No, they need to stop.
Laura: What?
Laura: Why?
Ron: Can't be better at this than us.
Laura: Oh, they have to be.
Laura: Somebody has to be.
Laura: Ron, I'm going to delete your comment there in the show notes where you said, this needs to stop.
Laura: It's not keep them coming.
Laura: So let's jump into the episode now.
Laura: This is probably my favourite episode we've released yet.
Laura: I think this is the episode where the wheels really start to come off down in a big way.
Laura: We're going back to physics.
Laura: Yeah, maybe.
Laura: How many times you hear the word down in this episode?
Laura: And let's listen to Laura and Ron start to fall out.
Laura: Listen, Ron, how are you doing?
Laura: Because I'm tired and very grumpy and I'm just not in the mood for your s*** today.
Laura: I feel like this is just going to be a really angry episode.
Ron: This episode, I think, might really get you back up as well.
Laura: It's already up, though.
Laura: What was the last physics?
Laura: What was physics again?
Laura: Which one was that?
Laura: It's not atoms, is it?
Ron: No.
Ron: So that was my first question.
Laura: Stupid woman with the ball.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Can you remember what force is and what it's measured in?
Laura: Force is like it's force, isn't it?
Laura: You know what force is that?
Laura: I think it's measured in Newton's.
Ron: It is measured in Newton's.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: Why don't you try and not necessarily define forces in the vague concept of that, but what?
Laura: A force is like moving stuff or force?
Laura: I don't know another word for force.
Laura: This isn't thesaurus education.
Laura: I don't know, Ron.
Laura: I think it's just force.
Laura: It's just like what is doing a thing?
Laura: Oh, that is it.
Laura: It's for that?
Laura: Is that it?
Laura: I hate this.
Ron: All right, talk to me about a four day question.
Laura: Don't just rephrase the question in a different patronising way.
Laura: I just did that.
Laura: I just did talk to you about force.
Laura: I said it.
Ron: I'm asking a different question.
Ron: Imagine you are the woman throwing the ball.
Laura: I'm tired.
Laura: My arms tired.
Ron: What force could you apply to it?
Laura: What do you mean?
Laura: I could get, like, my arm.
Ron: The.
Laura: Ball, I'm throwing it with force.
Laura: I don't know what you're asking me for, Ron.
Laura: I don't know what the question is.
Laura: I'm going to throw the ball with my arm forcefully.
Laura: I throw it hard.
Laura: Is that it moved my arm fast.
Laura: Fast arm hysterical already.
Laura: I hate you.
Laura: And I don't know is this what we did last time?
Ron: So the first thing to know is what a resultant force is.
Laura: Moving?
Ron: No, I'm going to teach you this.
Ron: This isn't a guess thing.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: So basically, all of the forces that act upon an object can be distilled into one force, and that is the resultant force.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: So let's think about a Blue Planet plastic water bottle that says Spa Rain on it, sitting on a table.
Ron: What force on it?
Ron: Blue plastic bottle that says Spa Rain, I think.
Ron: No, that's just what I'm looking at.
Ron: Now, imagine that on a table.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: What forces do you think are being applied to that bottle?
Laura: Like someone might want to drink from it.
Laura: What do you mean?
Laura: Gravity?
Ron: Yes.
Ron: So gravity is, in effect, pulling it down onto the table.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: So what other force can you think because gravity is pulling it down, but the bottle is not moving?
Laura: No.
Laura: Because it's on the table.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: So the table is effectively pushing up against gravity.
Laura: No, it isn't.
Laura: The table still.
Ron: But it's applying a force to the bottle.
Laura: No, I think it's just there.
Ron: But it is.
Laura: It's not, though, is it?
Laura: Because it's just a table.
Ron: Yeah, but it's applying a force to the bottle that counteracts the force of gravity.
Laura: No, it isn't.
Laura: It's just there in the way.
Ron: You're going to have to go with me on this.
Laura: No, I think science needs to go with me, that they are just f****** making things up to give themselves a job.
Ron: But then why wouldn't the bottle be moving if there was nothing?
Laura: The table is in the way.
Laura: I'm not saying the table is not stopping it.
Laura: It is, but it's not pushing up.
Laura: It's just there a static table.
Ron: But you agree that gravity is pulling down?
Laura: Yes.
Ron: So surely then you must agree that the table is counteracting that the table.
Laura: Is harder than the bottle.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: You must see that the table is equal and opposite to gravity because the bottle is not moving.
Ron: Yeah, and what's the opposite of pulling?
Laura: Stopping.
Ron: Don't be like that.
Laura: Why does it have to be the opposite?
Laura: It's not the opposite, it's just in the way.
Ron: Because gravity is pulling.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: That needs to be counteracted.
Laura: No, it doesn't.
Laura: Not if you just stop it.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: I don't understand why it's got to be the opposite.
Ron: Because what do you think is stopping?
Laura: Crisps?
Laura: It doesn't mean I've stopped because I've started throwing up crisps.
Laura: It just means I'm not eating crisps anymore.
Laura: Why can't the table just be doing that?
Ron: Okay, imagine it's not a table, it's your hand.
Ron: You're holding the bottle.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Okay, and then what happens if someone, like, if you're holding something heavy and then someone takes that away from you and you don't really realise I said.
Laura: Thank you so much for taking no.
Ron: Your arms kind of, like, move upwards, don't they?
Laura: No, I'm not a cartoon character.
Ron: Yes, they f****** do.
Laura: But if my hand was lying on the floor and someone took something heavy off it, my hand wouldn't ping into the air.
Ron: No, because the floor is applying the force in that scenario.
Ron: But you see what I mean?
Ron: Like, if you were holding something I.
Laura: Don'T see what you mean in the slightest.
Laura: Otherwise, all the floor, like when I took things off the table, the table will be pinging up like a jelly table.
Ron: Why would it be?
Laura: Because you're saying it's pushing.
Laura: So then when it stopped pushing, it would be pinging up when you took the weight off it.
Laura: Mackie agrees with me.
Ron: But you see what I mean with the arm thing, right?
Laura: No, not in the slide, just.
Ron: Yeah, but you do because.
Laura: You can't just keep telling me I do understand.
Laura: I don't.
Laura: Ron, you're talking cobbledygook.
Laura: A table isn't pushing.
Ron: It is.
Ron: But why would it be different with your arm and a table?
Laura: You're the one that thinks my arm is made of jelly.
Ron: I never said a bean about jelly.
Ron: Right, but you understand that to hold something in the air, you're applying a force.
Ron: God, I honestly even on to the topic that was in the syllabus.
Ron: I'm trying to lay the f****** groundwork for that.
Laura: Right, okay.
Laura: My table, my desk is pushing my laptop up to the sky.
Laura: Fine, you win.
Ron: Not up to the sky, Laura.
Ron: It's just counteracting the force of gravity.
Ron: You know, that one of Newton's laws of thermodynamics for every reaction, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
Laura: So he thinks fine.
Ron: Okay, right.
Ron: Let me try to think of another.
Laura: Way to explain I don't care, Ron.
Laura: The table's pushing.
Laura: Fine.
Laura: If that's what you say, I believe you.
Ron: This is the whole thing.
Laura: Well, there we go.
Laura: I've learned it now what?
Laura: I mean.
Laura: Let's do another bit now.
Ron: We're moving on to resultant forces.
Ron: Resultant forces.
Ron: So basically what it is, is that all of the forces that act upon an object can be distilled into one force, like kind of averaged out.
Ron: But it's quite hard to explain that to you if you're going to deny a large proportion of the forces that are acting upon a thing.
Laura: No, not denying anything.
Laura: My table is pushing.
Ron: So I thought maybe it would be fun if you had a couple of situations and you told me what the resultant forces were in these situations.
Laura: I can't wait.
Laura: That does sound fun.
Laura: You're right.
Ron: Listen up, lord.
Ron: You need to stop being an art.
Laura: I said I do it.
Laura: I said it sounded fun.
Laura: Stop being rude.
Ron: Okay, could you try and tell me the resultant force when a ball rolls down a hill?
Laura: Down.
Laura: Moving downward motion.
Laura: What are you saying?
Ron: So let's think about all of the forces that are acting upon this ball, right.
Laura: Down.
Laura: Downness, yes.
Ron: So it's got gravity working against it.
Ron: What else?
Ron: Gravity is pulling it down.
Laura: Down, yeah.
Laura: The wind.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: A bit of air resistance, friction.
Ron: That's kind of applying a force in the other direction, slowing it down.
Laura: I hit a pebble.
Ron: It's a smooth, flat.
Laura: Heat energy.
Laura: It's going down the hill.
Laura: Somebody through it.
Ron: Here's what we're going to do.
Laura: Kinetic energy.
Laura: Shut up.
Ron: Draw a diagonal line yes, sir.
Ron: Across on your page.
Ron: And then draw a ball on it.
Laura: Yes, I've done that.
Laura: Two points.
Ron: Okay, now we're going to draw arrows to represent the different forces that are being applied to this ball.
Ron: Okay?
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: So draw an arrow going from the ball pointing down, like down or down the slope.
Ron: Well, which way would gravity be pulling it?
Laura: To the core of the Earth.
Laura: No, not the Moon.
Laura: To the core of the Earth?
Ron: Yes.
Laura: What's the Moon doing?
Laura: Pulling us all to the sea?
Ron: In this world, there's no Moon.
Ron: We will cover the Moon in, like, eight years.
Laura: Okay, so down to the middle of the Earth.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: So on your diagram, what direction is that?
Laura: Down to the floor.
Laura: Down to the bottom of my page?
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Just straight down?
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: So draw an arrow pointing straight down.
Ron: Maybe mark it with a G.
Ron: So we know that that's gravity.
Laura: That is gravity.
Ron: Then the next one you mentioned is wind.
Ron: Let's just roll that all into friction, because obviously the surface of the hill is going to be applying some friction as well.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Are you imagining the wind is blowing into the ball or from behind the ball?
Laura: Because I'm imagining the wind is blowing the ball down the hill.
Ron: There's no wind.
Ron: No, I said we're going to wrap that up into friction.
Ron: Okay, so there's no wind, there's just air resistance and friction.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: What would these things do to the ball?
Laura: Slow it down.
Ron: So they are applying a force going in which direction?
Laura: No, direction.
Laura: Stop.
Laura: Direction.
Laura: Direction.
Ron: No.
Laura: Stopping.
Laura: Stopped.
Laura: Slow down.
Laura: What are you wanting?
Laura: Stop.
Ron: Stop.
Ron: Not at direction.
Laura: I know, but it's not going the ground isn't saying, Go this way.
Laura: The ground is just saying, don't do it, please, isn't it?
Ron: Yes, but it is supplying a force in a direction that is up, kind of up.
Ron: The friction would be, I think, applying a force just going up the hill because it's slowing it down.
Ron: It's trying to stop it from rolling down the hill.
Laura: Friction.
Laura: Oops, I've written friction.
Ron: In your mind.
Ron: What?
Ron: Which direction on your hill would the ball be?
Laura: Moving down the hill.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: But the two force arrows that we've drawn on it so far, they wouldn't really make it move that way, right?
Ron: No, because they'd be making it move sort of down and a bit backwards.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: So there must be some other forces being applied to the ball.
Ron: Could you hang on a guess at any of them?
Laura: I don't know all the fancy words for them, but it's down, isn't it?
Laura: It's going down the hill.
Laura: Did somebody throw the ball?
Ron: No.
Ron: We are just thinking about a theoretical ball that is Midwest.
Laura: Do you remember the advert where all the colourful bouncy balls go down the street in San Francisco?
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: With Josie Gonzalez.
Ron: Playing good, advert.
Ron: Stop thinking about that.
Ron: We're thinking about a theoretical for me.
Laura: To think of a hill, I think of San Francisco.
Ron: That's just lovely.
Laura: Do you know what for directed in San Francisco?
Laura: Princess Diaries.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: So we're thinking about a theoretical ball that is in the process of rolling down a hill.
Laura: Yes.
Ron: There is no story before or after that.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: So what do you want me to say?
Laura: Down.
Ron: I'm working upon this ball.
Laura: Well, down and the friction one.
Laura: Oh, I see what you mean.
Laura: Because the floor is being the table.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: Unless it was like a really heavy ball, it couldn't burrow through the floor.
Ron: Exactly.
Laura: So the floor is the table.
Laura: It's going up.
Ron: Well, which direction, do you think?
Ron: Straight up?
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Well, no, probably at the same angle as the floor is.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: Perpendicular to the floor.
Ron: Very good.
Laura: What's that called?
Laura: Table?
Ron: Well, that's the force of the hill pushing upwards against the ball.
Ron: But I didn't really want to go down that nasty avenue again, pushing.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: I've drawn that arrow.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: So those are the three forces acting upon the ball.
Laura: So how are we going forwards?
Ron: Can you a picture of your diagram just so I could double cheque?
Laura: Just find out all the things I've done wrong in it.
Ron: Yes, but that's kind of the point.
Ron: If you could set that to me and then I can just double cheque that you got it right.
Ron: And then we can talk about the resultant force.
Ron: Okay, sure.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: Usually you do them with the arrows coming out of the ball, but all of the arrows are correct.
Ron: Cool.
Ron: So the resultant force is kind of the average of those three.
Ron: So you can imagine that the friction on the ball is quite low, right?
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Because it's on the floor.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: And it's rolling.
Ron: It's not skidding down the hill.
Ron: It's a ball.
Ron: It's rolling like it was a rubber trying to sled down a sandpaper hill.
Ron: Then the friction is going to be just enormous.
Ron: But it's not that.
Ron: That would be mad.
Ron: It's a ball.
Laura: That would be crazy.
Laura: Scientists would never do that.
Laura: Can you imagine the chaos?
Ron: Yeah, it might be easier for you to.
Ron: At least the way that my brain works.
Ron: Is it's easier to picture it if the arrows come out of the ball?
Laura: Why?
Ron: Oh, God, mackie just made a horrible noise.
Laura: Yeah, she's come over to Cheque I'm okay because I was shouting a lot.
Ron: I don't know.
Ron: Just give it a go with that and see if you can because I think it's easier to picture when the arrows are coming out, where the sort of the average of them all is.
Ron: Make gravity the biggest one, then the hill one a little bit smaller than the gravity one, and then make the friction one quite small.
Laura: Start in the ball, though.
Laura: Going up into the sky.
Ron: No, coming out of the ball and going down for gravity.
Ron: Coming out of the ball and going up for the hill one.
Laura: Yeah, well, that's not right though, because it's not the ball trying to fly up, is it?
Ron: We're just talking about things so stupid.
Ron: Okay.
Laura: I like my dog, Ron.
Laura: She's real.
Ron: So now it looks like a clock a bit.
Ron: So can you see now that you've got the hill force kind of pushing a bit to the left and then the gravity force coming down and then a little bit of friction?
Ron: What do you think the resultant force from that would be?
Laura: I'm scared to say it, Ron.
Ron: No, just give it a go.
Ron: I'm not going to be mean about it.
Ron: Down, straight down.
Laura: Down the hill.
Ron: Closer.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: Yeah, we'll go a bit down the hill, put it to the left.
Laura: Yeah, I know what a f****** ball does.
Laura: I just don't believe your claims that it's only happening because the hill is pushing it.
Ron: Why else would it be happening?
Laura: Then somebody threw it.
Laura: If a whole hill was pushing a tiny ball, it would know about it.
Ron: It does because it stays on the top of the hill.
Laura: Yeah, but that's just because the hill is made of tarmac.
Ron: It sounds like a horrible hill, but that hill is pushing.
Laura: I don't think it's pushing though, is it?
Laura: It's just there.
Laura: It's just not allowing it self to be pushed.
Laura: It's not pushing.
Laura: It's just not being pushed, you know?
Ron: No, I don't know.
Ron: It's not correct.
Ron: So the next one that we're talking about is Newton.
Laura: Is that who I've got to talk to?
Ron: I mean, the entire physics community, I think.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: Right.
Ron: Here's the next one.
Ron: A pendulum.
Ron: What forces do you think are acting upon the pendulum?
Laura: Gravity.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: Is there no wind again?
Ron: Yeah, no wind.
Laura: That's it then.
Laura: Just gravity.
Ron: So what's the pendulum doing?
Laura: Just hanging?
Ron: No, I said a pendulum swinging before, I think.
Laura: What swinging then?
Ron: Yeah, but the only force working on it is gravity.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: What do you think it would be doing if actually, in reality, for a second, the only thing acting upon it would be gravity?
Laura: It would be falling to the centre of the Earth.
Ron: But it's not doing that because of the moon.
Ron: Bounce the moon out your life, mate.
Ron: It's not factoring in.
Ron: Okay, so the ball is not plummeting to the centre of the Earth?
Laura: Yes.
Laura: Because it's on a hill.
Ron: It's not from a hill.
Ron: It's a pendulum.
Laura: Well, why did you say the ball then?
Ron: It's a ball on a pendulum.
Ron: It's a pendulum.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: It's a clock pendulum.
Ron: The pendulum is not plummeting to the centre of the earth?
Laura: No.
Laura: Someone's holding it.
Ron: Let's say that.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: Someone's holding it.
Ron: Why would someone be holding a pendulum?
Ron: That doesn't make any sense.
Laura: They're hypnotising someone else.
Ron: So it's not on a clock.
Ron: Are you imagining, like, a pocket watch on a okay, I thought you meant like a pendulum inside a grandfather clock.
Laura: That's what I was picturing.
Laura: Someone's holding one of those hypnotising someone.
Ron: Someone's holding a pendulum from a few talking.
Laura: That's what jumped into my head when you said a pendulum.
Ron: Why?
Laura: I don't know.
Laura: I just thought, oh, swinging.
Laura: Wait a minute.
Laura: Newton's cradle.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Those are pendulums.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: And Newton, he's the man we're talking about.
Ron: We're talking about a pendulum.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: All right.
Laura: What do you want me to do?
Laura: Pin the pendulum to something.
Ron: Right.
Ron: Let's not have it be a weird person holding a part of a grandfather clock because that is honestly insane.
Ron: Let's think of it as just let's still have someone hypnotise someone.
Ron: Let's do it the normal way.
Ron: With a pocket watch on a string.
Ron: Okay?
Laura: Yeah.
Speaker UNK: Okay.
Ron: And now we're thinking about that when it is at the middle of its swing.
Ron: So it's right at the bottom.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Okay, so we've identified gravity is pulling on the pocket watch.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: But the watch is not plummeting to the centre of the earth.
Laura: No.
Ron: So what other forces are working upon it?
Laura: Well, the magician's hand is pulling it.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: And that's attached by the chain.
Ron: Right.
Laura: You're thinking about it on a chain.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: What would you think about it on?
Laura: Just a long metal stick.
Laura: Like a rod.
Ron: What fears?
Ron: I thought this was just something really pervasive in pop culture.
Laura: What are you typing about?
Laura: Who are you telling?
Ron: I'm not telling anyone.
Ron: I'm trying to find a picture of a magician hypnotising someone with a boggy watch to see if I'm losing my f****** mind.
Laura: Well, if it was a pocket watch.
Laura: I don't know, maybe a ribbon.
Ron: It's okay.
Ron: It seems like every image on Google backs me up.
Ron: That it would be on a chain.
Ron: That's fine.
Ron: We're talking about the pendulum when it's at the bottom of its swing.
Ron: Okay.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: So gravity is pulling it down.
Ron: The tension in the chain is pulling it up.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Thing is, because of the way I've drawn my pendulum, it's hard for me to draw an arrow going up, coming off the pendulum.
Laura: It just looks like the whole pendulum is an arrow, but you could just.
Ron: Use the point on the arrow to kind of denote how far up that the force is, if you see why me?
Laura: Sure.
Ron: So when the pendulum is at the bottom of its swing, it is neither moving up nor down.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: Just like the grand or Duke of York.
Ron: Going to take that as a yes.
Ron: I didn't get the reference.
Laura: And when they were down, they were down, and when they were only halfway up, they were neither up nor down.
Laura: That song, you know that.
Ron: Okay, sure.
Laura: Oh, the grand old Duke of York, he had him there.
Laura: No.
Laura: What's the tune?
Laura: At the beginning of it, he marched them up to the top of the hill and he watched them down again.
Laura: That's not quite right, though, is it?
Ron: I'm going to send you down.
Ron: We are six lines into my research.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: We've only got ten more minutes.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: We're just going to get through these results and force bits, and then we're going to have because after this, I was about to introduce a new concept to you called work.
Ron: I haven't got enough grey hairs already.
Laura: I'm working really hard.
Ron: So do you agree that at the bottom of it swing, the pendulum is not moving up nor down?
Laura: Yes, I said that.
Ron: You just started talking about Prince Andrew or something.
Laura: No.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: He was Duke of York, actually, wasn't he open?
Ron: Yeah, he was.
Ron: It was a good joke.
Laura: Yeah, I said that.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: So the tension in the chain and the gravitational force put it down equal.
Ron: Okay.
Laura: At that point, yes.
Ron: At that point, yes.
Ron: When it keeps on swinging, they then wouldn't be equal.
Ron: No, of course not.
Ron: Because then it would start moving up or down.
Laura: And then it would be up or.
Ron: Down at the bottom of its swing.
Laura: Yes.
Ron: Is the pendulum moving?
Laura: No.
Ron: Yes, it is.
Ron: Yes, it is moving.
Ron: What force do you think is making it move at that point?
Laura: Is it just a choice of these two forces?
Ron: No.
Laura: Momentum, force.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: Pulled that out of my b*******.
Ron: Well done.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: The momentum is moving it.
Ron: So what do you think the resultant force, when you take into account those three things, what does that look like.
Laura: Swinging.
Ron: In terms of an arrow?
Laura: Like a big smiley face, curly side, left and right, diagonal.
Ron: Please don't just say things.
Laura: I don't like silence, though.
Laura: I like to fill it up, just.
Ron: Have a bit of a think about it.
Laura: What do you mean?
Laura: I've drawn an arrow.
Laura: It's got a bend in it halfway along.
Ron: Forces have to act in a direction.
Ron: They can't have bends in them.
Ron: The tension from the chain and the gravity.
Ron: One's pulling up, one's pulling down.
Ron: And then you've got the momentum, let's say going to the left.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: What do you think the average of those three forces is?
Ron: That leads leaves us with the resultant force?
Laura: A bit of left, a bit up, a bit down.
Laura: It's all of them, isn't it, on a pendulum?
Laura: I don't understand.
Laura: Some of each, they just take it in turns.
Laura: On a pendulum, they all have a go.
Ron: But we agreed just now we agreed.
Ron: You agreed with me.
Laura: I'm not trying to argue with you, but a pendulum just swings all around.
Laura: So I can't do one arrow to represent everything a pendulum is getting up to?
Ron: Yes, you can.
Laura: Not a straight one.
Ron: Yes, because we're talking about the pendulum at this specific point.
Laura: It's going stop, isn't it?
Ron: No.
Ron: Who.
Ron: It hasn't.
Ron: Right, so we agreed that stop saying we agree.
Ron: But we did f****** agree, so don't backpedal now.
Ron: Don't want to be known as a deal world trip.
Ron: I'm not at the bottom of its swing.
Ron: The ball is not moving up nor down.
Ron: Correct.
Ron: It's just moving sideways.
Laura: I found some wires sticking out of my wall.
Laura: What did you say?
Laura: Sorry?
Laura: The pendulum was what at the bottom?
Laura: It's down at the bottom of the hill?
Ron: Yes, it's at the bottom of its swing.
Ron: So at this point, it's not moving up or down because the tension in the chain and the gravity pulling it down at that moment are equal and opposite.
Ron: Right.
Ron: So when we're talking about resultant forces, what are they going to do?
Ron: Okay, think about it this way.
Ron: What if one of them was so maybe if we put it into numbers, it would make more sense.
Ron: Right.
Ron: So let's say that the gravitational force pulling it down is ten newtons pulling directly down.
Ron: The tension in the chain is pulling up ten newtons as well.
Laura: Yeah, it stopped.
Laura: I've already said that.
Ron: So they cancel each other out, right?
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: So if those two cancel each other out, what is the result?
Laura: In force stopping.
Ron: But it's not f****** stopped, has it?
Ron: Because it's still moving.
Laura: Well, then, why?
Laura: Because of the momentum.
Ron: The other one.
Ron: That's all I wanted you to say.
Laura: You can tell me to think about that one.
Ron: I told you to think about all of them.
Laura: Is this going to go left, then?
Laura: Really, isn't it?
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Why can't you just tell me that to begin with?
Ron: Because f****** 14 year olds.
Laura: They'Re not doing anything else, are they?
Laura: 14 year olds aren't trying to pay the mortgage and drive places and find out what Ad blue means and where.
Laura: To put it in their car.
Laura: If anybody knows, can you please let me know?
Laura: Because it's been flashing for ages and I don't know what to do.
Laura: So of course they've got time to learn this s***, whereas I'm busy.
Ron: So we're going to do one more at the end.
Laura: No, I'm finished now.
Laura: I'm bored and it's stupid and I hate it.
Ron: Christ.
Laura: That was dog s***.
Laura: Physics is the worst one.
Laura: Sorry, Ron.
Ron: Sorry.
Laura: It's not right.
Laura: So it's really hard to learn because the hill isn't pushing and the pendulum isn't going left, it's going up and left and back down.
Laura: Okay, we'll see in a bit for the quiz.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: So there's only two points on offer.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: Because to be honest, I couldn't face and there was so little content in the last episode that there was nothing else for me to make questions out of.
Laura: I bought myself three weeks, though, to get on board with this idea that a hill is cuddling a ball.
Ron: For one person?
Laura: No, the opposite.
Laura: Pushing a ball away.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: Laura, what is a resultant force?
Laura: The stuff that ends up happening.
Laura: The thing that happens.
Ron: Give me more like.
Laura: A ball is on a hill and gravity is pulling the hill into the floor and the hill is pushing the ball into the sky and friction is there and the ball rolls down the hill.
Ron: But what is the resultant force?
Ron: A couple of two things about the ball.
Ron: What is the resultant force?
Laura: I know that you keep repeating that question and looking at me, like, really intently.
Ron: What is a resultant force?
Ron: You can work it out from the name of it.
Laura: That's why I said It's the thing that's happening, the result.
Ron: That's not what you said.
Laura: I did.
Laura: I said, the thing that happens.
Ron: I don't think I can give this to you.
Laura: Why not?
Laura: You know that I know what I am.
Laura: I said, It's the thing that ends up happening.
Ron: Look, Laura, I'd love to give you the point.
Laura: No, you wouldn't.
Laura: Look at your stupid face smirking away.
Laura: This isn't how you give me the point, then.
Ron: It's not how school works.
Laura: We're not in school.
Ron: You don't get points for knowing stuff.
Ron: You get points for parroting back the thing that they want you to say.
Laura: And I did.
Laura: I said, It's the thing that ends up happening.
Laura: Yeah, but that's further away.
Laura: How is that further away?
Laura: It's a result.
Ron: All of the forces that act upon an object can be displayed as one resultant force.
Ron: It's when you match them all together, you average them all out.
Ron: What force is left at the end?
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: That is not the same as the thing that ends up happening.
Ron: Because in the example that you gave a ball rolling down a hill, the thing that ends up happening is the ball rolling down the hill.
Ron: The resultant force is like a diagonal line pointing downwards.
Laura: Yeah, that's because there's more down than there is hill push?
Laura: Yeah, there's a little bit of hill push.
Ron: I'll give you half a mark.
Laura: Give me the whole down mark.
Ron: Absolutely not.
Ron: Half a mark.
Ron: Are you ready for question number two?
Laura: Who can ever tell?
Ron: A small porcelain dog is sat on a large oak table.
Ron: What is the resultant force acting upon the dog?
Laura: The oak table is pushing the dog up and gravity is pulling it down.
Laura: The resultant force is that the dog is not floating in the air.
Ron: Close.
Ron: Try again.
Laura: The resultant force is that the dog is on the log.
Laura: Was it a log?
Ron: What?
Ron: Was it a large oak table.
Laura: A large oak table.
Laura: The dog is just on the large oak table.
Laura: It's just on it?
Ron: Yes.
Ron: So what's the resultant force?
Laura: Down.
Laura: Stop.
Laura: Stoppage?
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: There isn't one.
Laura: Stillness.
Ron: There isn't one.
Laura: I hate you when you do these trickos.
Laura: It's not fair, do you know that?
Laura: It confuses me as much as it is without doing trick questions.
Ron: I just thought, because we literally talked about this last week, you might have.
Laura: Got it, you know that I hang out my headphones during this and I walk away so angrily that I then sort of, like, obtusely forget everything we've done, but cancels it.
Ron: Cancels out.
Ron: The force of gravity is the force of the table.
Ron: They just cancel each other out.
Ron: Nothing happens to the top.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Which I'll give you another half a month for.
Ron: Stop.
Laura: I didn't say stop.
Laura: I said it doesn't stop it.
Ron: First you said down, so I think I'm being a bit lenient, to be honest.
Laura: Are you done?
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: That's the quiz.
Laura: That's it.
Laura: It's got physics garbage and I hate it.
Ron: Tell us at home how you did.
Ron: Did you get the full two points?
Laura: Did you say exactly the words that Mutant Ron needed you to say?
Ron: Did you answer the question?
Laura: I answered the question.
Ron: You make impassioned noises to kind of indicate you know what I'm talking about.
Laura: My science is bullshit because I know that a dog sat on a table doesn't, like, fall through the table and stuff, and I know how a ball goes down a hill, but if I don't say exactly the right type of down, I don't get the point for it, and that is stupid.
Ron: So are you asking for these lessons to be just like, what happens if you put a ball on a hill and then A, for me to clap when you say it rolls down, and B, for anyone to listen to them?
Laura: No.
Laura: We could have a chat about we could make it more like my degree was and then we have a chat about how the ball might be feeling as it goes down the hill.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: How it was feeling in the context of the time that it rolled down.
Laura: How the witnesses looking at the ball rolling down might perceive the balls rolling in a different way.
Ron: Sure.
Ron: How it might be different if the Basalo man pushed it down a hill in gangland Chicago.
Ron: Something like that.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: You know, useful stuff.
Laura: So that was a slog.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: Listening back.
Ron: More of a slog than I remember.
Laura: Yes, more of a slog for me, too.
Laura: And what's really sad is I've now recorded that with you.
Laura: I've edited it once, I've edited it twice for the second draught and I've listened back to it there and I still don't believe.
Ron: And now, on top of all of this, we're putting it out into the general public.
Laura: Do you know what, though?
Laura: I just have in the back of my head, though, when I was explaining this to dad and he went, well, it's not pushing.
Laura: And I was like, yes, dad agrees with me.
Laura: So we would normally ask you, how did you get on?
Laura: In the quiz, there were only two questions.
Laura: So I got 50% of the marks available, which is higher than a lot of my scores, so I'm fine with that.
Laura: Although getting half of each two points is a hard way to get 50%.
Laura: So there we go.
Laura: Let us know what you think.
Laura: What feedback do you have from us?
Laura: You can contact us on Lex education on all platforms TikTok, Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.
Laura: We're also on YouTube and the transcripts are available on our blog spot.
Laura: If you want to read along, you can email us, lexeducation@gmail.com, if you've got something to say that you don't want to be in the general public.
Laura: But bear in mind, we'll probably read it out here, so it will come around.
Laura: Our big question of the week is going to have to be if someone asks you to picture a pendulum, what do you picture?
Ron: Absolute batch it.
Ron: You are picturing a Rod mad.
Ron: Everyone please get in touch and let me know how right I am.
Laura: So there we go.
Laura: We'll be back to biology next week.
Laura: Thank goodness biology is fast becoming like a floating piece of driftwood in a sea of anarchy.
Laura: But we hope you've enjoyed physics too, and we will see you next week.
Ron: Class dismissed.
Laura: You got to say it in your voice.
Ron: Class dismissed.
Laura: Oh, my door slam.
Laura: Just as you said it.
Laura: It was so authoritative.
Laura: Do one more.
Ron: Class dismissed.
Laura: You sound like a ghost.
Ron: First.

Tuesday 19 July 2022

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 Laura: Hello and welcome back to Lex Education, the smash hit comedy podcast Science Podcast, where my little brother Ron.
Ron: Hello, I'm Ron.
Laura: That's Ron.
Laura: He tries to teach me.
Laura: Hello, I'm Laura Science.
Laura: It's episode Five chemistry two.
Laura: Welcome back.
Laura: How are you doing, Ron?
Ron: It's good.
Ron: It's our first early morning record because you're about to get on a train.
Laura: I'm coming to see you today.
Ron: Hooray.
Laura: Very exciting.
Laura: Now, before we start the episode, we would like to thank Pod Spike.
Laura: They are friendly, tame podcast marketing people.
Laura: We found them in the wild.
Laura: They found us in the irld.
Laura: They probably found us in the wild, didn't they?
Ron: They did, yeah.
Laura: They very much found us in the wild.
Laura: And they said, hello, would you like to start your podcast alongside somebody that knows what they're doing?
Laura: And we said, oh, yes, thank you very much, please.
Laura: That would be the kind they showed us how to launch a podcast and it's worked, hasn't it Ron?
Laura: Because these people are listening right now.
Ron: I think it's gone swimmingly.
Laura: Yeah, we hit 1000 downloads this week, which we think for week two is pretty spicy.
Laura: That's nice, isn't it, Ron?
Ron: It is nice.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: We got a badge.
Laura: We did get a badge.
Laura: Can you stop tapping your desk, please?
Laura: You're very unprofessional.
Laura: You know all about science, but not about broadcasting.
Laura: So, yes, chemistry.
Laura: Thank you, Pod Spike and Chemistry, we're back with you today.
Ron: Thank you, chemistry.
Laura: I would never thank chemistry.
Laura: Don't be ridiculous.
Laura: I hate chemistry.
Laura: And thank you to people like Greg, Helen, Colin, Matthew and Kay for your sort of, quote, tweets of episodes that really helps, as well as the interacting and the chatting that we've been doing with all of you guys underneath is lovely.
Laura: Thank you very much.
Laura: And Becky.
Laura: Lulu, thank you for your instagram post.
Laura: We really appreciate it.
Laura: Ron, we've had a new Apple review.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: From Riddled with Gin.
Ron: Someone I think we could get along with.
Laura: I do like a bit of gin, although I had some port this weekend, just a sniff, and it was very lovely.
Laura: Riddled with Gin says, all the joys of GCSE science without the strange teachers.
Laura: Which I think is nice for you, Ron, because that means you're not strange.
Ron: Yeah, I'd go with that.
Ron: I don't know what the joys of GCC science are.
Ron: Way of producing them.
Laura: Yeah, there isn't a joy of GCSE science, as far as I'm concerned.
Laura: But there is joy in podcasting.
Laura: Now, last week we were talking about chromosomes, were we?
Laura: Probably.
Laura: And we asked if any of you guys knew why X and Y chromosomes?
Laura: Why don't we use the z or whatever?
Laura: Now, mystic says.
Ron: That there are WNZ ones in beetles and birds, I believe.
Laura: Yeah, but birds are animals.
Ron: Yes, but not all animals are birds.
Laura: But all birds are animals.
Laura: I love birds.
Laura: I've got a bird feeder and I'm training Maki to shout at the pigeons, but not at the sparrows.
Laura: Anyway, so that's one thing.
Laura: Maybe there are W and z.
Laura: And then Daniel suggests that the chromosomes look like an X and a Y.
Ron: So they come in pairs, joined in the middle.
Laura: God, everything's in f****** pairs, isn't it?
Ron: They come in pairs, joined in the middle.
Ron: So the X ones, which are the long ones, they're kind of joined in the middle.
Ron: So when you get the two of them, they look kind of like an X.
Ron: And then the Y one join halfway.
Laura: And flex their crotches into each other.
Ron: Yeah, and then the Y one is much shorter, so it would kind of look like a Y, but with kind of a vestigial tail.
Ron: But I thought that, too, when I was having to think about this, and I texted a friend of the podcast, Noah, about this because he's a biologist.
Ron: And he was just like, yeah, of course that's why it is.
Ron: But I can't find any evidence for that being the etymology of X and Y.
Laura: Okay, well, there we have it.
Laura: Even more science, which is what we all came here for.
Laura: So we're going to jump back into chemistry two with a big look on some atoms.
Ron: I'm excited to get back into it.
Laura: You just love science so much.
Laura: You deep.
Ron: I do.
Ron: I do.
Ron: Not.
Ron: Chemistry, though.
Laura: No.
Laura: I thought no, physics is the worst one.
Laura: I didn't mind chemistry.
Laura: Those plum puddings and the little sad reggae boys.
Ron: Now, that's how I can tell.
Ron: The listener can probably tell that it has been a long time since we recorded those episodes, because you really did f****** mind chemistry.
Laura: Okay, well, it's mellowed a bit in my memory of it.
Laura: Maybe physics was just so s***.
Laura: Going back to it, I think what.
Ron: Happened was you just did quite well on the quiz.
Laura: It could be that.
Laura: I do like to be the winner, kid.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Physics is worse, though.
Laura: Okay, so just give me a quick rundown on what we did last time.
Laura: We did electrons.
Laura: They go in rings.
Laura: That's how things go on the periodic table.
Ron: We did the makeup of the nucleus.
Laura: And it subtle look with contouring and a little bit of shading across the brow line.
Ron: I don't understand what you're saying to me.
Laura: You said it was the makeup of something.
Laura: I didn't listen to the rest of it.
Ron: Oh, I got that.
Ron: You were talking about makeup.
Ron: I thought nucleus was some makeup term that I had.
Laura: No, the makeup of the nucleus must be what you said.
Laura: But I didn't even hear the word nucleus because I started to go I thought of something.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: And the nucleus is the brain.
Laura: It's inside a membrane, not in atoms.
Laura: What?
Ron: I thought it was in cells.
Ron: In cells, it's in a membrane.
Laura: Why don't they call them something different?
Ron: Because it probably comes from Greek or Latin or something.
Laura: Oh, how the f*** are you supposed to remember that?
Laura: So they both have nucleuses, but they're different things.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: What's an atom's nucleus, then?
Ron: It's the bit with all of the Bob Marley.
Laura: It makes me sad when you rub your eyes.
Ron: It's a bit with the Bob Molly and the sound engineers that keeps all those sound desk.
Laura: That was the little okay.
Laura: And then the parties going on around them.
Laura: That's where they store the neutrons.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: And that determines how heavy the cell is?
Laura: Atom is, yes.
Ron: Great.
Ron: Segue.
Ron: Basically, for most of today, what we're going to be doing is just getting a little bit smaller.
Ron: Smaller than atoms.
Ron: We're going to be learning more about the bits that make them up.
Ron: Okay.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: The organelles.
Ron: That was a joke.
Laura: Like the atom organelles.
Laura: I'm assuming from your pausing that cell atoms do not have organelles, but the organelles of the atom is what I mean.
Laura: Love a girl.
Ron: I thought you were joking.
Ron: I might have broken up there for a bit.
Ron: You definitely froze and were giving me a very derisive look.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: So do you remember which particles are positively charged and which ones were negatively charged?
Laura: Now, like, the Englishy part of my brain is telling me that protons would be positively charged because they're pro.
Laura: So I'm going to say protons.
Ron: Correct.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: And the electrons are negatively charged.
Laura: Yes.
Ron: Neutrons are neutral.
Laura: That makes sense.
Laura: Well done.
Laura: Language.
Ron: Hooray.
Ron: The concept that they want us to learn about first is the idea of relative charge.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: That's where you ask your aunt and uncle for money before they come and stay with you.
Ron: I was going to say, when you run at a line of your cousins very relative charge, what do you see?
Laura: Picturing when you say that?
Ron: The weird ones.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: So the idea of relative charge is basically a simplified way to look at the charge of not only these small particles, but then these small particles determine the charge of molecules and ions and larger things as well.
Ron: So basically what we say is protons have a charge of plus one and electrons have a charge of negative one.
Laura: They cancel each other out.
Ron: Exactly.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: So it basically means that because whenever an ion or a molecule is charged, it is ion.
Laura: What's a molecule?
Ron: We'll get to those in a second.
Ron: It just means that when those are charged, essentially, they're either lacking electrons or they have too many.
Ron: So it's always going to be increments of this relative charge of plus or minus a number.
Laura: Okay, sure.
Laura: Everything you just said there was just like so it will be a number.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: And then you paused and looked at me and I realised I was supposed to be processing that information, but I was waiting for it to get to a bit that meant something to me.
Ron: I can't actually remember the unit for charge, but a proton's charge would be teeny.
Ron: Teeny.
Ron: Tiny.
Ron: Tiny.
Ron: Because they're so small.
Ron: Right.
Ron: So what you could do is you could say, oh, this ion has a charge of 0.1, whatevers.
Ron: But that would be a bit tedious and hard to work with.
Ron: So we just say that is plus one.
Ron: It's relative to the atom, and then just simplifies it when we talk about it.
Laura: Charged with what, babe?
Laura: What are you talking about?
Laura: What's it charged with?
Laura: Like just atom juice.
Laura: What is it?
Ron: Magnets, basically.
Laura: Because I was just thinking there, just give it whatever number you f****** want.
Laura: Science.
Laura: Who cares?
Laura: You're the only ones talking about it.
Laura: But it's magnetic in the same way that other magnets are.
Laura: Magnetic.
Ron: Yeah, opposite to track.
Laura: I don't know what that's got to do with anything, but, like, you could measure the charge of a proton against a fridge magnet.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: That's why you're saying it's simplified to go to one.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: And then opposite the tracks, you got all the negative electrons floating around the outside attracted metal.
Ron: No, everything is electromagnetic energy.
Ron: No, that's not true.
Ron: Cut that.
Ron: Cut that.
Ron: Cut that.
Laura: I'm not going to I'm going to leave it in with a big whack oops noise, and then a big flashing light will start wherever someone's listening to the podcast.
Laura: And in fireworks, it'll say, Ron is dumb.
Laura: Ron is dumb.
Laura: And a little dancing version of me will be dancing around.
Laura: Ron is so stupid.
Laura: What an idiot.
Laura: He thinks the whole world is full of what was it?
Laura: Electric?
Laura: Magnetic energy.
Laura: Energy, you idiot.
Ron: Right, so let's move on from relative charge.
Ron: We're circling a very depressing dream.
Laura: We just want everything one to make it easier.
Laura: I agree.
Laura: Well done, sir.
Ron: Yeah, so it just means the example that I thought was easiest to look at is table salt, which we've talked about before.
Ron: Sodium chloride.
Laura: I remember it's.
Laura: Bad Boy NaCl.
Ron: The sodium gives its electron the NAD gives its electron to the chlorine.
Ron: So what charge will the sodium ion have now?
Laura: Positive.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: Meaning that the what charge?
Ron: Like what number charge?
Ron: How much charge?
Laura: Something away.
Ron: Yes, but it gave a negative thing away.
Laura: So it was two before and now it's one.
Ron: It was zero before.
Ron: Now it's one.
Laura: All right, okay, cool.
Ron: It's given away a negative charge, so.
Laura: You can only ever really be minus 10 or plus one.
Ron: Well, using your periodic table, give me the next element along in the row from sodium.
Laura: No, I've got to find sodium.
Laura: Where is he hiding?
Laura: Oh, he's over here in group one.
Ron: What's the group two element in that row?
Laura: Magnesium.
Ron: So, magnesium, remember, because it only got two electrons in its outermost shell, it's quite easy for it to shed those two.
Laura: Yeah, f*** off.
Ron: So magnesium could shed both those electrons, which would leave it with a charge of neutral.
Laura: Again, zero.
Ron: No, it's shed two electrons.
Laura: If everybody's in pairs, they're happy, aren't they?
Ron: Yes, but they're both negative.
Ron: All electrons are negative.
Laura: So who's got protons?
Ron: The nucleus of the atom.
Laura: Okay, so he's minus two, then.
Ron: Plus two, plus two.
Ron: Just giving away two minus things.
Laura: Wait, so where was the neutrons?
Laura: There in the nucleus.
Laura: As well as the protons.
Ron: The neutrons are in the nucleus?
Ron: Yes.
Laura: Quite crowded in there, then, isn't it?
Ron: It is indeed.
Laura: I think I'd rather be an electron.
Laura: A bit freewheeling.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: You get around more when you're an electron.
Ron: Leading back to your question earlier, and I'm sure you're going to ask about a few more things.
Laura: It doesn't seem miserable that I'm here.
Ron: I was really worried that I hadn't done enough research for this episode.
Ron: We're already right in the weeds, and also we're covering a lot of what we've covered in previous episodes.
Laura: We have not talked about any of these sums.
Ron: Absolutely.
Ron: We did the whole of the last episode on the structure of the atom.
Laura: Pudding.
Ron: Plumb bloody pudding.
Ron: Right.
Ron: So atoms an atom is when there is an equal number of protons and electrons therefore not charged.
Laura: Okay, hang on.
Laura: Atom equals protons, equaling electrons.
Laura: Atoms are neutral.
Laura: The neutrons don't come into it.
Ron: No, not quite.
Ron: Okay, so that's an atom when the electrons and the protons are in balance, if the number of protons changes, that changes the element.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: So another proton in a sodium nucleus makes it a magnesium.
Laura: Changing the protons changes the element.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: And the proton number.
Ron: You'll see the proton number on your periodic table.
Laura: This is magic, isn't it?
Laura: Just changing into a different thing.
Laura: I'm not chlorine anymore, I'm gold.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Just by changing the price.
Laura: So how come it's possible?
Ron: I would say it probably is, but I just don't think we have any idea of how to do it.
Ron: It would take an intense amount of energy.
Laura: Okay, so changing the protons changes the element, but it doesn't change the charge.
Ron: Well, it would, yes.
Laura: So some things are just they all start with different charges.
Ron: No, it's not often that protons leave or join a nucleus.
Ron: What I mean by that is just the number of protons defines the element.
Laura: I'm confused.
Laura: Now, when sodium and chlorine get together yes?
Laura: Why doesn't that just change chlorine into the thing in the next column?
Ron: Because they are exchanging electrons, not protons.
Laura: Electrons is the thing.
Laura: Ron Changing the protons changes the element.
Laura: You clever boy.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: The number of protons defines the element.
Ron: A change in the number of electrons, that makes an ion.
Laura: Changing the electrons.
Laura: And you have to plug an ion in electrons.
Ron: I didn't understand that at all.
Laura: If you're using an ion, you've got to plug in.
Laura: So changing the electron makes it an ion.
Ron: God, that was one of the most tedious ones.
Ron: Right.
Ron: So when the sodium atom sheds its electron to the chlorine atom, they both become ions because they are now charged and they have an uneven number of protons and electrons.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: Does shedding a proton make a charge?
Ron: It would, but it very rarely happens.
Laura: Okay, let's not bother learning about that then.
Ron: Yeah, we might come across that.
Ron: I believe that only really ever happens during radioactive decay.
Ron: Hey, we're going to get bloody sued.
Ron: Stop that.
Ron: Sorry, but we'll come across that and then we talked about this.
Ron: I think in the last atoms episode, we did a different number of neutrons makes a different isotope.
Laura: Isotope sounds like a made up word, doesn't it?
Laura: Change?
Ron: Sounds like a baseball team.
Laura: The neutron makes an isotope.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: A different number of neutrons is a.
Laura: Different weight of the neutrons of the big boys.
Ron: So you could have an oxygen atom.
Ron: It's got eight protons.
Ron: One of them might have eight neutrons, another one might have nine neutrons.
Ron: They are different isotopes to each other, but they are both oxygen because they both have eight protons.
Laura: Would they feel different to breathe?
Ron: No.
Laura: Okay, isotopes matter then, do they?
Ron: You are breathing hundreds of different isotopes all at once, all at the same time.
Laura: Ron, what is the point of all of this?
Ron: Well, we'll learn some more.
Laura: Oh, no, I hate it when we've done a bit and I go, Great, I've got that in my head.
Laura: And then it turns out that was the two lines as the introduction to what we're about to go on and do.
Ron: No, it's more just kind of today.
Ron: It's a lot of just learning stats and facts about atoms.
Laura: Okay, well, we should make Top Trumps with different atoms on them, Ron.
Laura: Then we could play Top Trumps.
Laura: Like I'd say to you, hang on, let me get my board and have a look.
Laura: I'd say to you, oh, I'm mollabedinum and I've got 42 electrons.
Ron: And I'd say I'm cadmium, and I've got 26 electrons.
Laura: Oh, I've won then, haven't I?
Laura: Give me your cadmium.
Laura: Good content.
Laura: Bedinum is a transition metal, so don't tell JK Rowling about that one.
Laura: She will be kicking off.
Ron: Right, okay.
Laura: Using my notebook back to front.
Laura: I'm so stupid.
Laura: No, I'm not.
Laura: I just had it upside down.
Laura: Don't worry.
Laura: That's bad?
Ron: Yes.
Laura: That means you're not not stupid after all.
Laura: Well done, me.
Laura: I did some gardening today and I thought about biology.
Ron: Well, what did you think about?
Ron: I thought about how I'm touching biology.
Laura: I thought about how the sun makes me feel nice and it makes us feel nice.
Laura: And I planted a flower that doesn't really like to be in full sun and I thought maybe that's got less maximatosis things to make ATP.
Laura: So it doesn't want as much stuff to convert into energy.
Ron: It's got less mixomatosis.
Laura: I know that that's not the right word, but I can't remember what the right word was.
Ron: We'll find out in episode seven.
Laura: Not Mike croscopy mitochondria makes the ATP God, what the h*** is that drawing a sperm that looks like a key is kissing a frog.
Laura: With big lips.
Laura: I was wondering if a plant that likes to be in the shade, maybe they have less.
Laura: Mitochondria can't cope with as much conversion.
Ron: They might do as but the causation is probably the other way around.
Ron: They probably got less because they like to be in the sun, not they like to be in the sun because they've got less.
Laura: Well, how do they just like something they're plants.
Laura: Oh, let's save this confusion.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Let's not get into selective pressures and natural selection now, we need to talk about the size of atoms.
Laura: Very small.
Laura: Done.
Ron: Next thing, teeny, would you like to hazard a guess as to how small in your metres?
Laura: So small that it's f****** garbage that we're talking about, because if we just left them alone, there'd be no nuclear war, no nuclear reactors.
Laura: We could just carry on with our lives, not caring.
Ron: Would you like to have it again in metres?
Laura: In metres.
Laura: That's too big to measure.
Ron: Something like, all right, in nanometers, then.
Laura: I don't know what that is.
Laura: What's that?
Ron: That's why I said hello.
Laura: I'm Nanometer.
Laura: I hope that's a character in some children's science one day.
Laura: I'm Nanometer.
Laura: Let me tell you about how small things are in my day.
Ron: Be the change, Laura.
Laura: In metres.
Laura: So a metre is big.
Laura: Like what's?
Laura: A metre about the size of a wheelbarrow.
Laura: And then an atom.
Laura: An atom is way smaller.
Laura: So let's say a millimetre is I don't know, hang on.
Laura: How big was a cell?
Laura: And then there's a cell bigger than an atom.
Laura: I don't think cells and atoms exist in the same world.
Laura: I'm going to say I think it's about 20 atoms to the millimetre.
Ron: No.
Ron: So an atom is about 0.1 nm across.
Ron: That's including all of the electrons whizzing around the nucleus.
Ron: That is.
Laura: How many knots?
Ron: Nine, I believe.
Laura: One metres?
Ron: Yes.
Laura: How much is that in millimetres?
Laura: Because I can't think about that in.
Ron: Millimetres, then that would be.
Laura: So they're even smaller than cells.
Ron: Was that a joke?
Laura: No, because I don't understand a cell made of atoms.
Laura: Why are you saying it like that?
Laura: I don't know.
Laura: Cell, parts, organelles, those little men that stood together and made a membrane.
Ron: Okay, let's track this back.
Laura: Are all of those people made of atoms?
Ron: Everything you've ever seen or touched, heard or smell is made out of atoms.
Laura: So is air an atom?
Ron: It's more than one.
Laura: And so is a Lysosome.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: Name another thing.
Laura: I'll tell you, there'll be a p****.
Laura: Oh, God.
Laura: Well, I feel like then who cares?
Laura: That is so small.
Laura: Ron how did they split that, then?
Laura: How would you break up one of those?
Ron: Well, you fire you fire another one of those acid.
Ron: Here's a fun thing, though.
Ron: The nucleus of the atom is only 110 thousand of the atom's radius.
Ron: That's how big it is.
Ron: So 9999 of it is empty space.
Laura: What, with a wall?
Laura: Around the empty space?
Ron: No.
Laura: So why isn't the atom just small, then?
Ron: Because of the electrons whizzing around it.
Laura: Oh, they just whizz.
Laura: They're not on string.
Laura: I thought they'd be on string.
Ron: No, they were held in by the magnetic charge.
Laura: Clever.
Laura: I think there might be a god.
Laura: You know, this all just sounds too stupid to have happened on its own.
Ron: Do you remember the last chemistry episode we were talking about?
Laura: I thought I did, but I thought I'd had a good time, and now I'm sitting here, I just would cry and go downstairs and I guess I didn't have a good time.
Ron: But do you remember old Ernie Rub?
Ron: Ernie Rutherford?
Laura: No.
Ron: The guy that was firing no.
Laura: Who was that farmer that made peas that you always used to tell me about mendel?
Ron: He wasn't a farmer, he was a monk.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Do you remember Rutherford?
Ron: He was the guy that was shooting particles at some gold foil and some of them went through, but crucially, some of them bounced back.
Laura: Oh, yeah, that one that took us a long time to understand.
Ron: Yeah, the bollards instead of the wall.
Ron: So this is why.
Ron: It's because the nucleus of the atom is such a small point inside the greater space of the atom.
Laura: So everything's just floating about like wood.
Laura: Seems really hard, but actually it's just loads of space.
Ron: It is to such a huge degree.
Ron: Everything that is mass is just empty space.
Laura: Madness.
Laura: I just don't think I understand reality anymore.
Ron: Yeah, like when you touch your desk, it's just kind of empty space pushing up against empty space.
Laura: Is that how water goes through things?
Ron: No.
Laura: Can things go around these electrons, or is the magnet pushing everything out of the electrons?
Ron: Do you mean sort of in between them and, like, through them as they're whizzing about?
Laura: Can stuff go through them?
Ron: I think energy can not other particles there.
Ron: Okay, that might be wrong.
Laura: And are they colourful?
Ron: No, colours don't exist at that size.
Laura: Where does colour come from?
Ron: Well, so colour is made from different wavelengths of light, so you can't have something, for example, that's red if that thing is smaller than the wavelength of red light.
Laura: I wish I hadn't asked that question.
Ron: Okay, let's move on.
Ron: So just like we had relative charge with subatomic particles, we've got relative mass as well.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: You take your brother and sister and you go and ask God for forgiveness.
Ron: So a proton weighs one relative max, a proton weighs one, and a neutron also weighs one.
Ron: They weigh the same.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: And electrons, those are all the guys in the nucleus.
Laura: These are the guys in the house.
Laura: And an electron.
Laura: I think they're going to be smaller.
Laura: Not .5.
Ron: They are so small, we just completely ignore their mass.
Laura: What, so they're just a zero?
Ron: Yeah, they are a zero when it comes to relative mass.
Ron: So adding the protons and the neutrons in any given nucleus gives you the atomic mass of that nucleus.
Ron: So that is the bigger number in your periodic table.
Laura: Okay?
Laura: So going back to Molly bednam 95.94.
Ron: You'Ll notice that all of the atomic masses on your periodic table aren't round numbers.
Ron: Could you hazard a guess why?
Laura: Because science sucks my big wet balls.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: Is it because they've got to add the skin of the nucleus to it?
Ron: No.
Laura: Is it because imperial?
Ron: It is because these are all averages, so there are different isotopes for all of these things.
Laura: Isotope.
Ron: So that is the average atomic mass of any one of these elements.
Laura: Right.
Laura: Well, that seems like a useful thing to know then.
Laura: That's just a number that none of them weigh, isn't it?
Ron: Well, no, it absolutely does, because.
Laura: Don'T tell off my girlfriend science.
Laura: I like to kiss her in the morning.
Ron: Stop trying to turn this into a comedy podcast.
Laura: I don't want it to be a science podcast.
Laura: That's the problem.
Ron: God, a huge bird just flew by my winter.
Ron: Right?
Ron: So the reason why that matters is because you never get matters.
Ron: You never get one atom on its own.
Laura: Never ever.
Laura: Lonely boys.
Laura: Atoms are lonely boys.
Ron: I said you never get them on their wrist.
Laura: Yeah, they get lonely, so they hang around together.
Ron: But then they wouldn't be lonely.
Laura: No, you can still be lonely if you hang out with someone.
Laura: Tom and I have this argument all the time.
Laura: He says that if we're in the same room, I'm not allowed to be lonely.
Laura: And I said I can be lonely during a conversation.
Laura: But that doesn't make any sense.
Laura: Somebody that was alone is obviously not a lonely thing because they like their own company, whereas atoms are clearly they struggle when they're alone, so they're always with a friend.
Laura: Adams get lonely, so they hang out together.
Ron: The f****** mental hoola hoops that you expecting people to do.
Laura: Okay, judgy atoms always come in pairs.
Laura: Isn't that what I pictured?
Ron: I mean, there are atoms always in pairs.
Ron: Pairs are made out of atoms just like anything else.
Laura: Atoms always are never alone.
Laura: AAA.
Laura: That's how we'll remember.
Laura: That it's.
Laura: The AAA's are always, never alone.
Ron: Yeah, but I haven't really finished getting this out.
Ron: It's not that they can't be on their own.
Ron: It's just that they're so small and there's so many of them that in practise they never are.
Ron: Do you understand?
Laura: I'm liking an atom soup right now, aren't I?
Laura: Yeah, well, it's not that they're never alone, is it?
Laura: They just make up everything.
Laura: So everything is them.
Ron: Yeah, but what I'm trying to say is that, say in a lab, if you were trying to measure the properties of beryllium, you would never have one beryllium atom to test.
Laura: It would always be firing it as somebody else's atom to do a nuclear bomb.
Ron: No, you would always have space.
Laura: Could you put one atom on its own in space?
Ron: In theory, yes.
Ron: In practise, no.
Laura: Why not?
Ron: Because it's very hard for us to do one atom.
Ron: Atoms are very small.
Laura: Well, how did we split it, then?
Ron: Chemical reactions and stuff.
Laura: I reckon we could get one on their own, then.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Like I said, why don't we try.
Laura: And do that for the end of the series?
Ron: But one Adam, and we never know if we did it.
Laura: Proving my point that absolutely none of this matters.
Ron: Yeah, but you can't just, like, suggest a thing we do and then go, yeah, that doesn't matter.
Ron: Okay, how about this?
Ron: We go on holiday and spread some jam on the Taj Mahal, and then you're like, that's pointless.
Ron: Why would we spread jam on the Taj Mahal?
Ron: And then I go, yeah, see, what's the point of going on holiday?
Laura: But we know if we'd put jam on the Taj Mahal.
Ron: Not if we put it on the back.
Laura: I can walk around the back.
Ron: You've never seen the back of the Taj Mahal.
Laura: You've been caught out, buddy boy.
Laura: Right, so Adams are always, never alone.
Ron: A and A.
Laura: That's why we just measure the average.
Laura: We just weigh it, and then we go and that's 19 Berylliums.
Laura: That weight divided by 19 gives us where's the notepad gives us 9.1.
Ron: Exactly.
Ron: So students should be able to calculate the numbers of protons, neutrons and electrons in an atom or iron, given its atomic number, mass, number and charge.
Laura: Brilliant.
Ron: So we're going to do this now?
Laura: Right now.
Laura: Oh, dear.
Laura: Okay?
Laura: I've made copious notes.
Ron: There is a sodium ion with a charge of plus one.
Laura: Has a charge of plus one.
Ron: It has an atomic mass of 23.
Ron: It weighs 23, and an atomic number of eleven.
Laura: Atom number.
Laura: Eleven.
Ron: Okay, tell me how many protons, how many neutrons and how many electrons it's got.
Laura: I'm mad.
Laura: I haven't got a clue.
Ron: What students should be able to cancel me.
Laura: Hang on a minute.
Laura: Okay, wait.
Laura: It's plus one is the charge.
Laura: Electrons are out of the equation because they're the flyboys.
Laura: They're too small.
Ron: No, I want to know the number of electrons as well, please.
Laura: I can't know that.
Ron: Yes, you can.
Laura: No, I can't.
Laura: If it weighs eleven, I think it must be five neutrons.
Ron: No, it doesn't weigh eleven.
Ron: Its atomic number is eleven.
Ron: Its atomic mass is 23.
Laura: What's the atomic number got to do with anything?
Laura: What's the atomic number?
Laura: What?
Laura: What's the atomic number?
Ron: Please work it out.
Laura: Look at your previous I'm trying to work it out.
Laura: I don't like to be tough to work it out.
Laura: She makes me really crossed because you know I am working it out.
Laura: You know I am, but you're asking me I can't remember what the atomic number means.
Laura: Where's sodium they should put these in alphabetical order.
Laura: It's very hard to find panicking.
Ron: No.
Ron: What order are they in?
Laura: Laura Bigness.
Ron: What order are.
Laura: They in size.
Ron: What defines the element?
Laura: Well, it's salt.
Laura: I hate being under pressure.
Ron: What is the difference between sodium and magnesium?
Laura: Sodium has one fewer whizzyboards.
Laura: Yes.
Ron: Which one?
Ron: Which one?
Laura: Don't shout at me.
Laura: Electrons.
Ron: No, the other one.
Laura: I thought electrons were the wysi boys.
Ron: The electrons are the Wizy boys.
Ron: But remember the wizzy boys differences in the wysi boys, the electrons, that's what makes an ion.
Ron: How did we change what element?
Ron: It was.
Laura: Radioactive energy.
Ron: But what particle?
Ron: There's only three, my love.
Laura: Protons.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: So the number of protons defines the element.
Ron: Remember, magnesium has one more proton in its nucleus than sodium.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Magnesium's atomic number is twelve.
Ron: Sodium's magnetomic number is eleven protons.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: It weighs 23.
Laura: So it must have twelve neutrons.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: And then it's got a charge of one plus one.
Laura: So it must have ten electrons.
Ron: Exactly.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: You worked it out.
Ron: That was great.
Laura: Yeah, but I'm sweating so much.
Laura: All because of its even salt yet.
Ron: Okay, we were going to do two more.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: Why isn't it an atom?
Ron: Because it has a charge.
Ron: It's not an equal number of protons.
Laura: Yeah, because an electron has disappeared off somewhere.
Ron: Exactly.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: All right, give me another one.
Laura: Give me another one.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: Helium is one of the noble gases, therefore it never forms an ion.
Ron: So please tell me, if a helium atom had an atomic mass of four, an atomic number of two, how many of each type of particle it's got?
Laura: Okay, so I know that it's got two protons.
Ron: Exactly.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: So then, I mean, it's got two neutrons because two plus two equals four.
Ron: And then it's a noble gas, so it could not be an ion.
Laura: So it must have two electrons.
Ron: Exactly.
Laura: The noble gases are the steady boys.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: They're full.
Ron: They've got full rings.
Ron: They can't take on or lose any.
Laura: And they're really small.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: I didn't think we talked about that.
Ron: Nice.
Laura: Yeah, I nailed that after the initial panic.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: See, it's not that hard.
Laura: No, I'm a scientist now and that.
Ron: Information is probably pushed out something else from your head.
Ron: Lucky you.
Laura: Do I wipe front to back or back to front?
Ron: Okay.
Ron: How do you feel about doing a bit of math?
Laura: Well, I just smashed that math, so bring it on.
Laura: I say.
Ron: Because students should be able to calculate the relative atomic mass of an element given the percentage abundance of its isotopes, what is what.
Ron: Right, so have you got your pen ready?
Laura: Yes.
Laura: Okay, this is the pen we got free from the jewellers, went on, bought my engagement ring.
Ron: God, you thought they'd given you a nicer pen.
Laura: It wasn't that nicer.
Laura: Ring?
Ron: Didn't his dad make your ring?
Ron: Did his dad just give you a pen?
Laura: No, his dad made his wedding ring.
Ron: Okay, here you go.
Ron: Here's a pen.
Laura: Julian does love to give us pension feature.
Ron: Right.
Ron: So there are three different isotopes of oxygen.
Ron: Oxygen 16.
Ron: Write that down.
Laura: Hang on, hang on.
Laura: Three different oxygen 16.
Laura: That sounds like a cleaning.
Laura: Are you a teenager with too many spots?
Ron: Try oxygen 16, oxygen 17.
Laura: That is the one for somebody slightly older.
Ron: And oxygen 18.
Laura: Oh, legally drinking is your skin dehydrated from going to weather spoons?
Ron: So oxygen 16 is 99.763 percent of oxygen.
Laura: Of all oxygen in the world?
Ron: Yes.
Ron: In the universe that we've found oxygen 17 is naught point 75 of all oxygen.
Laura: God, I bet someone got right spawn when they discovered some of these oxygens.
Ron: And oxygen 18 is 0.95%.
Laura: So 17 is the rarest 119 95, that's the year you were born.
Ron: And I'm 18, so mind blown.
Ron: Okay, so now, from all of that information, you should be able to tell me the average atomic mass of oxygen.
Laura: How could I possibly do that?
Laura: What are you talking about?
Ron: Because you've got the percentages of the different masses.
Laura: No, I know how many these types of oxygens exist.
Ron: You got the percentage of oxygen in the world that weighs 16, the percentage of it that weighs 17, the percentage of it that weighs 18.
Ron: So you can work out the average mass, but why?
Laura: Because it's already so small that nobody gives a s*** about it.
Laura: And then you're telling me to weigh zero point 75% of the theoretical oxygen.
Laura: Oh, why?
Laura: What's?
Laura: Even if you f****** love oxygen, who cares?
Ron: Well, I mean, like legitimately, for anything where you have to weigh chemicals, you need to know these things.
Laura: You can't weigh oxygen.
Ron: You can if there's enough of it.
Laura: There's loads, yes.
Ron: And you can weigh it.
Laura: That is heavy.
Ron: Yeah, but you understand that oxygen can exist in other things.
Laura: All right, I'll do some sums and see what comes up here.
Laura: All right.
Laura: Okay, so 16 times 99.73 equals 1596.208.
Laura: Then 17 times not .5 equals this doesn't feel like it's going to be right.
Laura: And then 80 times 0995 equals 3.59 one.
Laura: Then let's say add those together.
Laura: That's probably too heavy.
Laura: So let's wait with percentages.
Laura: Then you divide it by 100%.
Laura: Try that.
Laura: Well, maybe if I've stumbled across this, I'm over £1000.
Laura: I think the average weight of an oxygen is 16.4365.
Ron: I wasn't listening to everything you did.
Ron: I got distracted.
Laura: Welcome to my bloody world, mate.
Ron: Yeah, that sounded right.
Ron: Let us know in the comments if.
Laura: It was my first ever victory.
Laura: And you weren't even listening.
Laura: You were a garbage boy made of garbage food.
Ron: Hey, you've had many more victories than that.
Ron: Don't put yourself down.
Laura: That was a massive one.
Laura: You just gave me barely any information and I came out with the science answer.
Ron: It was brilliant.
Laura: Be brilliant.
Laura: Is that it now?
Laura: We're done now?
Ron: How are we doing for time?
Laura: It's been f****** ages.
Laura: It's been 52 minutes.
Ron: Like another page.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: Worth it.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: So you listener will hear a delightful little ditty now, but in our lives.
Laura: A week will pass, and then we will be back for the quiz.
Laura: We're back in the room.
Laura: Laura is so tired and unenthusiastic, she'd utterly forgotten the episode happened.
Laura: Ron, how do you feel about that?
Ron: You said, oh, we don't have to do a quiz.
Ron: We've done a quiz.
Ron: But there's a quiz every episode.
Laura: I know, but I thought we'd done a quiz but hadn't done an episode.
Ron: If it makes you feel better, I haven't put any math in the test.
Laura: Was the only bit I did well with.
Ron: Exactly.
Ron: So no need to test you.
Laura: You are a stupid little b**** and I hate you.
Ron: Don't slap me.
Laura: Oh, the Oscars just happened because this probably won't be going out six months.
Laura: We should do really tropical references every episode, like baffling by the time they go out.
Ron: Okay, do you have your notebookapariotic table to have?
Laura: I do.
Laura: I've got my notebook.
Ron: I'd like you to tell me big note.
Ron: Big note.
Ron: I'd like you to tell me how many protons, neutrons and electrons there are in a Germanium ion that has a charge of two plus.
Laura: And what's awful is I remember so clearly that meaning something.
Laura: A week ago, I've got Mackie here to help me.
Laura: Today it's got the number 32 on it.
Laura: So that means it's got certainly means something.
Laura: It's got 32 electrons.
Ron: You give me the answer for all three and then I'll give you the mark.
Laura: What was the question again?
Ron: Protons, neutrons and electrons.
Ron: The germanium ion has a charge of positive two.
Ron: And as germanium seems to have a few different isotopes, let's say it's got an atomic mass of 73.
Laura: It has to have 32 electrons because that's the little number in the top right of the box.
Laura: So then it's got plus two charge.
Laura: So it's got two more protons than electrons.
Laura: So it's got 34.
Laura: Protons.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: So then neutrons.
Laura: What did you say?
Laura: 73 yes.
Ron: 73.
Laura: Plus 73 -34 on.
Laura: So it's got 39 neutrons.
Ron: Christ.
Ron: You really hate s*** on that question.
Ron: No, zero.
Laura: So it has got 32 electrons, hasn't it?
Ron: No, it's got 32 protons.
Laura: Oh, f****** h***.
Laura: F*** a d***.
Laura: Oh.
Laura: I think that the electron should be what we call the Wizzy's out, the outside ones.
Ron: Okay, but even then, 32, is it not?
Laura: I thought that was how you knew.
Laura: I thought that was what that number meant with how many outside wizards it had.
Ron: No, that's how many inside.
Laura: That's how many DJs there are.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: That is the number of Bob Marley.
Laura: Okay, right.
Ron: And then the 32 is how many Bob Marley's.
Ron: So then you would subtract the 32 from the 73 to 41 electrons.
Ron: No, there's 41 sound engineers.
Laura: Oh, bastards.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: And then because it's got a charge of positive two, it's got two electrons.
Ron: God, if you don't know just let me finish the sentence.
Laura: Two protons.
Laura: It's got two protons.
Ron: It's got two more protons than it's got electrons because electrons 43 no, that wasn't neutrons.
Ron: It's got 30 electrons.
Laura: I haven't learned anything.
Laura: I'm already sad today and now I haven't learned anything.
Ron: Well, yeah, that would be.
Laura: For the listener at home.
Laura: That pause there where Ron had no idea what to do in the face of an emotional response.
Laura: That was my dad happening via his son.
Laura: Just how do you feel?
Laura: So goodbye.
Laura: Let's do some more facts.
Ron: The imperative facts say that, yes, you are s***, actually.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: Laura, can you tell me what an isotope is?
Laura: Probably not Ron.
Laura: It is the Springfield baseball team.
Ron: They were the isotope.
Ron: So I'm afraid I would have accepted a member of the Springfield baseball.
Ron: I do hope yes.
Laura: Is that when there are different different number of neutrons in the nucleus?
Ron: It absolutely is, yes.
Ron: And the isotope is a different mass caused by a different number of neutrons?
Laura: Yes.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: One point.
Laura: Thank God.
Ron: Okay, next question.
Ron: Staying on the theme of mass, which is bigger, a proton or a neutron?
Laura: They're both relative to one.
Ron: Yes, Laura?
Ron: I thought I'd be tricky.
Laura: No, I just was like I don't know.
Laura: I can't remember what you said.
Laura: They were roughly but you said that we rounded everything up to one except electrons, which was zero.
Laura: Because they're too small.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: And they are made of gold leaf.
Laura: And then radiation goes through.
Ron: Yeah, we'll cut off the last bit.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: So the relative mass of both protons and neutrons is one.
Ron: And that's not a rounding thing.
Ron: They are just the same mass.
Laura: Well, we've made that up, but yeah, sure.
Ron: What do you mean, we've made that up?
Laura: Well, we can't weigh them.
Laura: They're too small.
Ron: Yes, we can weigh them.
Laura: With what, tiny mice scales?
Ron: No, it's just you get enough of.
Laura: Them standing on a scale, looking at how it weighs.
Laura: It's a cute image if you wanted to do a cartoon big in this.
Laura: Of course it does.
Laura: It's two thirds of your body.
Ron: You could draw that up and have it as the album art.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: What's funny about album art?
Ron: Jesus.
Laura: Reading my jokes about my science answers are so much worse.
Ron: What's quite funny about the format that we have chosen for this podcast is that listeners will get a sneak preview into the next episode.
Ron: So when someone finishes chemistry too.
Ron: God.
Ron: Physics too.
Ron: Well, I think you're on for another mark in the next question, because the next question is what is relative charge.
Laura: How much magnetic energy these things have.
Ron: But specifically the concept I hated the.
Laura: Sound of you drinking then.
Laura: That was horrible.
Laura: What do you mean?
Laura: Stop it.
Laura: It's grossy.
Ron: Yes, specifically the concept of relative charge.
Laura: How much magnetic energy they have relative to each other.
Ron: Keep going.
Laura: How much magnetic energy they have relative to each other.
Laura: And all things, relatively speaking, colder further away.
Ron: Oh, man.
Ron: I thought that was an open f****** goal.
Ron: You just basically talked about this.
Laura: For relative mass, they're relative charge one.
Laura: They're both one.
Laura: Relatively what's?
Ron: Both one.
Laura: Protons and electrons.
Ron: Keep going.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: Back on the right track.
Laura: Zero.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: And why do we do this?
Laura: Because we've got nothing else to do.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: Zero points.
Laura: Because they kiss each other.
Laura: They go to the party together, don't they?
Laura: They do, but they attract each other.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Matt it just makes it easier.
Ron: So we say protons are positive one, electrons are negative one, and then when we're working out ions and s***, we can say what charge it has and around number.
Laura: Yeah, we're making it up as we go along.
Laura: I already said that earlier.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: And it's minus points for that.
Ron: You got two out of six on that.
Laura: Fine.
Laura: I would rather have two out of six and have my dignity.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: So it was three for the first one.
Ron: One point for protons, neutrons and electrons.
Ron: One for what?
Ron: An isotope is one for what is bigger?
Ron: Proton and neutron.
Ron: And then one for the relative charge for those following along at home.
Laura: Well, that was a mature end to a podcast, wasn't it?
Ron: Yes.
Ron: I think it some sort of your feeling about the quiz.
Laura: Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Laura: Now, I've got a couple of notes.
Laura: I very much regret being disparaging about my engagement ring.
Laura: I was joking and I would just like to put that back into the ether that I love my engagement ring.
Ron: That's code fair.
Ron: Tom might listen to this.
Laura: Tom actually loves this podcast, which is nice, but he does agree with you all the time and rolls his eyes a lot.
Laura: But, no, I love my engagement ring.
Laura: And I think listening back to that, I thought that I was probably going to follow that up with a joke a bit more, and I never did.
Laura: I'm a spoilt b****, but I love it.
Laura: Anyway, I also wanted to know if you're listening, what's your go to thing?
Laura: That's about a metre.
Laura: Because I feel like one really laughed at me for saying a wheelbarrow.
Laura: But I want to know what your go to thing is.
Ron: We don't live in the f****** arches.
Laura: Well, I have a garden.
Laura: I don't have a wheel, though.
Laura: Steps in my garden.
Laura: But anyway, what's your goat?
Laura: You think it's about a metre also?
Ron: A metre is about a metre, yeah.
Laura: What, do you just think about a metre ruler, then?
Ron: Yeah, kind of.
Ron: I just go like that's.
Ron: About a litre.
Laura: Well, I think about a wheelbarrow.
Laura: Anyway, when I was doing this math bit about oxygen and Ron wasn't listening, was that the right answer?
Laura: We need to know that as well, because Ron delicate.
Laura: His duty no, that's not it, is it?
Laura: delicion of duty?
Ron: Delegation?
Laura: No.
Laura: Whatever that word is, let us know that as well.
Laura: You've got so much homework anyway.
Laura: Was that right?
Ron: I don't know you weren't listening.
Ron: No, sorry, I wasn't really listening there neither.
Laura: You're a very bad man.
Laura: Nowhere on John Tickle watch.
Laura: We've had no response from Tickles camp about coming on the podcast, which is sad.
Ron: That is sad.
Ron: What is he doing?
Laura: Yeah, what are you up to, John Tickle?
Laura: And let us know if you scored better than two out of six on the quiz.
Laura: Do you want to say anything wrong?
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Did you get three, four, five or six on the quiz?
Ron: Maybe one.
Laura: Why are you such a sarcastic dickers?
Laura: So annoying.
Ron: I'm not.
Ron: I lead the lessons.
Laura: You lead the I did lead, but I can't do all of it because otherwise it's just a lecture, as you like to say.
Laura: Anyway, see you all next week.
Laura: Thank you very much for all the love and the love, I suppose, just again.
Laura: And hey, do a cartoon of an ant on some scales.
Laura: We want to see what that might look like.
Laura: We'll see you next week.
Laura: When?
Laura: Oh, God, it's physics.
Laura: Next week?
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Woof.
Laura: Okay, we'll see you for that.
Laura: But in the meantime, we're on all the social medias.
Laura: We are at Lex education.
Laura: Chat to us on Twitter.
Laura: Instagram.
Laura: Sometimes TikTok, but increasingly less YouTube.
Laura: All the places that's where we are.
Laura: Facebook, even Facebook.
Ron: Remember Facebook?
Laura: Yeah, remember Facebook?
Laura: That's still around and we put stuff there in case you aren't listening.
Laura: Chat to us there and we will see you next week.
Laura: Take care.
Laura: Goodbye.
Ron: Class dismiss.

Monday 11 July 2022

Episode 4 - Might O'Condria feat. Haddaway

 Laura: Hello and welcome back to another episode of Lex Education, the podcast where I comedian Laura Lexx try and learn science from my non comedian brother, Ron.

Laura: Hello, Ron.

Ron: Hello, I'm Ron.

Laura: It's our first week where some episodes have been out.

Laura: Ron, how are you feeling?

Ron: It's exciting.

Ron: I'm loving the fame.

Laura: You've never podcasted before, have you?

Ron: No, I've never really done anything before.

Laura: No, you're just a dirty little boy from software, and now you're a podcast star.

Laura: Okay, not a star, but you do have a podcast.

Ron: Yes, because nobody has podcasts.

Laura: This is what really sets you apart from the pack.

Laura: Thank you so much for all the love in our first week of podcasting.

Laura: We've been recording these four months just to make sure we had a backlog of lessons so that we don't end up screwing you with a week where we get busy and don't give you one.

Laura: So we've been excited for months, and then this was our first week of it being in the wild, and you guys have been amazing.

Laura: So thank you very much for tweeting us and Instagramming and all of that stuff.

Laura: We're also on TikTok.

Laura: I don't think anybody wants us to be on TikTok, but listen, we're there, so if that's your method, if you're just like podcasts and Tik tok, that's the only way I get my content.

Laura: Come and give us a follow.

Laura: We've currently only got two followers, and one of them is me.

Ron: If you'd like to explain TikTok to us as well.

Ron: We're both over 19, so we don't really get it.

Laura: Anyway, this is TikTok aside.

Laura: This will be a lesson I imagine we'll have to do at some point in the syllabus.

Laura: The science of duktok, viruses, algorithms.

Laura: Yeah, that's math, isn't it?

Laura: Is an algorithm different to a logarithm?

Ron: Yes.

Laura: I thought that was just how you pronounced.

Laura: You know, it's one of those words that you've never seen, you've never said.

Laura: You've only ever seen them written down.

Laura: And I'd heard people say logarithm, and then I saw the word algorithm, and I just assumed that's how you pronounced it.

Ron: I'm going to blow your mind now, or neither of these things even have anything to do with rhythm from music.

Laura: Well, language needs to shape up.

Laura: So also, if you haven't subscribed, subscribe.

Laura: You're on episode four now.

Laura: You're in, you're stuck.

Laura: You can't leave unless we give you a hall pass and give us a rating.

Speaker C: That's really helpful.

Laura: Thank you very much to Fairy Fluff for your five star review on Apple podcasts.

Laura: We're very grateful.

Speaker C: It helps other people decide to give.

Laura: Us a go, basically, if people haven't gone.

Laura: No, it was doctorship.

Laura: So thank you very much.

Laura: Barry fluffy.

Laura: We appreciate it and we are proud of ourselves, so thank you.

Laura: I know if you listen on Spotify, you can also rate there.

Laura: I'm not sure about other apps.

Ron: I think there have been a few on Spotify, but you need a certain threshold before it starts showing all of these five star reviews we've got.

Ron: So slam a few more in there and then we can see them.

Laura: Slam a few more in there.

Laura: Listen to you, you f****** radio DJ.

Laura: Our first listener is Kevin.

Laura: Hello, Kevin.

Laura: Now, Ron, I don't really understand how this works, but Kevin is in Canada.

Laura: So even though I set it to drop at 100 a.

Laura: M.

Laura: On a certain day because he's in Canada and time happens, he got it before then.

Ron: Yes, but Canada is behind us.

Ron: What, like it's earlier in Canada than it is in the UK.

Laura: So how did he get it before everyone else?

Ron: I think he was just up late.

Laura: I don't understand.

Laura: Kevin, are you okay?

Speaker C: What's happening?

Laura: Where you live, Kevin?

Laura: We're worried about you.

Laura: So thank you, Kevin, for being an early adopter.

Laura: We love you.

Laura: Jenny listened on her commute and said, we brightened it up.

Laura: So if you're commuting and your commute is longer than from your bed to your couch, then, hey, we're here from you.

Laura: You've had a request.

Laura: Ron.

Laura: Over.

Laura: Dusty would like a live stream of a whole new world.

Ron: When we do the first live stream, I will do that.

Ron: I feel like it won't be as funny as it would have been when I was 14.

Laura: What about if we got your friend Noah involved to come on as a special guest and play the chords for you?

Ron: He texted me about that because he'd completely forgotten what happened.

Laura: I think we broke Noah in.

Laura: Noah's also an absolute science hound.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: The thing is, though, I have a high pitch deafness in my left ear, so I've literally toned deaf ear?

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Which is using all the time.

Laura: And it sounds good.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Through very hard work and that's the thing, is that when I was 14, I was literally tone deaf and it was awful.

Ron: Now.

Ron: I'm semi accomplished magistrates.

Ron: Whole new world.

Laura: I'm excited.

Laura: I'm here for it.

Laura: I want it to be good.

Laura: Ben says that the podcast has not damaged my brand.

Laura: Ben, if you could get back in touch and let us know whether that's a compliment or not, because Ron and I have talked about that a lot this week and we're not sure how we feel.

Laura: So, anyway, thank you for the love, thank you for listening.

Laura: And we're back to biology today.

Laura: Ron, what are we looking at today?

Ron: We're looking at cell differentiation, basically.

Ron: Just what could be different about sales.

Laura: Yeah, what can be different?

Laura: So, dig out your biology notes from episode one and we'll kick off with a lesson.

Ron: I do have some beef to air, actually, though not with you.

Speaker C: I really panicked then.

Ron: So I wanted to hear your opinion on this.

Ron: Right, I live in a building that has multiple flats.

Ron: Lady on the first floor, she has a dog.

Ron: Her dog clearly s*** in her flat.

Ron: This morning, and then she left a small bag of poop just in the corridor.

Speaker C: For how long?

Ron: I don't know.

Speaker C: Like, if it's under 4 hours.

Speaker C: Okay, you're going to take it out later.

Speaker C: You're just busy.

Ron: 4 hours?

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: They're leaving a little bag.

Speaker C: The bag.

Speaker C: I'm not saying I want to leave a bag of poop in someone's place.

Speaker C: Okay, so if you have any thoughts on the bag of poops, let us know or on Twitter and Instagram at Ledge education.

Speaker C: But Ron, first, actually, I've got this notepad.

Speaker C: I have bought a notepad with a periodic table in it just for this podcast.

Speaker C: Secondly, what are we studying today, please?

Ron: So today we're going to progress a bit further into sales.

Ron: So it's our first episode where we're building on something we've previously learned, which I think is going to be fun.

Ron: How do you feel about sales?

Ron: Can you remember much?

Speaker C: Vacuole.

Ron: Pardon?

Speaker C: Vacuol.

Ron: Oh, I thought you just said, f*** you all.

Speaker C: No.

Speaker C: I'm a nice girl.

Speaker C: Do you know what cells I think?

Speaker C: No.

Speaker C: Wait.

Speaker C: Was that Adams?

Speaker C: Which was the plum pudding one?

Ron: That was atoms.

Speaker C: S***.

Speaker C: Cells and atoms are a bit similar in my brain cells.

Speaker C: I think I'll be all right on there's like a million bits to a cell.

Speaker C: And some of them have envelope membranes in them.

Ron: Some of them do have envelope membranes.

Speaker C: So I feel okay.

Speaker C: All right.

Speaker C: And we're building on that knowledge.

Speaker C: I'm worried about building on the shaky, shaky knowledge.

Speaker C: It feels like it's a bad house.

Ron: We're building we're going to cover a couple of things.

Ron: We're going to cover sales specialisation.

Ron: So how different cells are different to each other.

Ron: And we're going to cover magnification.

Ron: And then what we'll do is, if we get onto it, we'll learn a little bit about stem cells.

Speaker C: Oh, they're for research for leukaemia.

Ron: Yes, sometimes.

Ron: Okay, so magnification.

Speaker C: Magnification.

Speaker C: When we get the cells and we make them bigger.

Ron: Let'S just Bruce through this because it could only sort of vaguely be more boring.

Ron: It says students should be able to understand how my crosscopy techniques have developed over time, but it gives no information on what you need to know.

Ron: So I think if you could just copy my microscopy.

Ron: Yes.

Speaker C: That is a horrible word.

Speaker C: What a nasty collection of letters.

Speaker C: Microscopy.

Speaker C: What do you do for a living?

Speaker C: Microscopy.

Speaker C: Oh, it sounds like a scab.

Speaker C: That word is a scab word.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Especially because it's like my something.

Ron: So it sounds like a croscopy is something that you can have.

Ron: Yeah.

Speaker C: How did you get that skin lesion removed?

Speaker C: I had a microscopy and then the doctor ate the lesion like a crisp.

Speaker C: Yes.

Speaker C: I hate it.

Speaker C: Okay, so what do I need to know about my croscopy?

Ron: How it developed over time.

Ron: But as I said, it gives no details on what you need to know.

Ron: So just assume that it got sort of steadily better for a while and then during the release got quite a lot better, and then has been getting exponentially better as technology progresses.

Speaker C: Okay, here's my guess.

Speaker C: The Persians worked it out in 32 BC and we ignored it utterly until a white Scottish man declared it was so in the 1700s.

Ron: Probably.

Ron: Exactly.

Ron: That got it.

Speaker C: I've got science history down packed.

Ron: And then we need to be able to explain how an electron microscope has increased the understanding of subcellular structures.

Ron: So you don't need to understand how an electron microscope works.

Ron: The very basic premise of it is that electrons are smaller than rays of light, so you can get a higher resolution.

Ron: It's like smaller pixels.

Ron: Kind of.

Speaker C: Imagine being an electron just running around in between rays of light.

Ron: Yeah.

Speaker C: In the dark, when they're not in a ray of light.

Ron: Well, on that scale, dark between rays of light, there's just nothing.

Ron: Things don't have colour or light or anything.

Speaker C: Oh, my goodness.

Speaker C: No wonder they're sad.

Ron: But what is light if you're not there to see it?

Speaker C: What is light?

Speaker C: Baby, don't hurt me don't hurt me.

Speaker C: You don't even know that song.

Speaker C: Do you know?

Ron: Is that Base Hunter?

Speaker C: I want to say hadaway.

Ron: That's not a name.

Speaker C: It is, right?

Speaker C: You talk to the listener about whatever this is.

Ron: No, because you're the one that's Hadaway no, you're the one that A needs to learn this, and B, needs to be funny.

Speaker C: Listen up, chump harder way.

Speaker C: Yeah, it was hardaway.

Speaker C: What is love?

Speaker C: Baby, don't hurt me what a great song.

Speaker C: We should change the theme music to this podcast.

Speaker C: A highway.

Ron: If you keep listening about electron microscopes, we can and if you pay for.

Speaker C: The light, I'll get in touch with Hadaway.

Speaker C: If anybody knows how, do I?

Speaker C: Could they tweet us?

Ron: Shut the f*** up.

Speaker C: Education.

Ron: So electrons are smaller than rays of light?

Ron: Yes.

Speaker C: Yes.

Speaker C: I'm really sad for them.

Speaker C: It just must be so disconcerting.

Speaker C: You know the little clown image of a clown, like in a ray of light on a thing.

Speaker C: And he's a sad clown.

Speaker C: Don't rub your eyes.

Speaker C: We're only ten minutes in.

Speaker C: And then he steps into the darkness and he's so lost.

Speaker C: Gets real sad, then bumps into a carbon atom, steals his electron, and they dance into the sun together.

Ron: I'm so sorry.

Ron: Where did the clown come from?

Speaker C: Because he stood in the ray of light.

Ron: Why is it a clown?

Speaker C: Because there's that famous picture of the clown looking sad.

Speaker C: Stood in the ray of light.

Ron: Are you talking about that dixit card?

Speaker C: Oh, maybe.

Ron: Right.

Ron: Okay, I've thought of another analogy for why electron microscopes are better than a traditional light microscope.

Speaker C: They've got bigger dukes.

Ron: Do you know those things that you see every now and again?

Ron: A pin art.

Ron: You know, where you can push your face into it and then you see your face?

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: So imagine the difference between using one of those where all the pins are like a centimetre thick.

Ron: And then using one where all the pins are, like, a millimetre thick, the one where it's like, a millimetre thick, you're going to get a much more detailed picture, aren't you?

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: So that's kind of like the difference between these two microscopes, because rays of light are like centimetre thick pins, so you don't get much resolution, whereas the electrons are much smaller, so the picture is better.

Speaker C: So, sorry, but what is the microscope doing with electrons?

Speaker C: Is it got them in the glass?

Ron: No, it's firing them at the thing and then stuff and then recording them coming back and then building a picture out of that.

Speaker C: Like sonar, sort of dolphin microscope.

Speaker C: Wicked.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: Dolphins shot electrons out of their blowholes to form pictures of their surrounding environment.

Ron: It would be a bit like that.

Ron: And electron microscope pictures, because they don't use actual light and because of the scale that these things are on, they don't have colour.

Ron: They're all black and white.

Ron: But quite often people will add colour afterwards, so you can kind of tell things apart and know what you're looking at.

Speaker C: Black and white stuff is always class here.

Speaker C: Anyway.

Ron: Then there's two things that they want you to kind of understand.

Ron: The difference between magnification and resolution.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker C: Resolution is the clarity of a picture.

Speaker C: Magnification is how zoomed in is.

Ron: Exactly, yeah.

Ron: Resolution basically like the definition.

Ron: And then there is a formula here for magnification.

Ron: It's literally just the size of the image divided by the size of the real object equals the magnification.

Speaker C: That makes sense.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Simple as that.

Ron: And now we've got that out of the way, we are going to talk about selling.

Speaker C: I haven't got much focus this morning.

Ron: No s***.

Ron: I'm eating cold pizza I made for dinner on Sunday.

Ron: Pork backlub?

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: We had it at a restaurant nearby.

Ron: Literally, it's just pulled pork inside backliver and then I made loads of it because I just had to do a whole joint of pork.

Ron: So now there's just loads of pork back cover in the fridge and it's taking everything inside my body to not just go and eat all of the pool pork backlipper.

Ron: Okay, so cell specialisation.

Ron: Not all sales are the same, so we remember that a sale is the smallest sort of building block of a body.

Ron: Right.

Ron: It's the Lego brick.

Ron: Yes.

Speaker C: A cell is made of atoms.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: Everything's made of atoms.

Speaker C: That's so crazy.

Ron: Basically, small atoms are atoms are very tiny.

Speaker C: How do you split one?

Speaker C: You need a sharp knife, but you.

Ron: Have to hit it with another atom, I think.

Ron: Anyway.

Speaker C: Adam feels guilty?

Ron: Yes.

Ron: Deeply.

Speaker C: In a kind of being fired at your mate.

Ron: Oh, my God.

Ron: Did you forget your medication?

Speaker C: I'm not on any medication.

Speaker C: I think it should be.

Speaker C: I take vitamin B, actually, and it makes my Wii go bright yellow.

Speaker C: Bright yellow.

Speaker C: Like I'm like a superhero.

Speaker C: That's.

Ron: Blood red.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker C: Cell specialisation.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: So cells, we described them last time as they are the Lego bricks filled with McCannO that make up the body.

Speaker C: Yes.

Ron: But not all of them are the same.

Ron: So a skin cell is going to be very different to, say, a nerve cell.

Speaker C: Everybody's different, but it doesn't mean you're less good.

Ron: Exactly.

Ron: So I wondered, based on your knowledge of cells, what you think could be different between them?

Speaker C: Well, some cells would help you process energy.

Speaker C: Like in a leaf, you might have the chloroplasts, whereas, like a petal cell that's just fannying about, looking nice.

Speaker C: So that's different.

Speaker C: The cell on my bone needs to be rigid.

Ron: What, they have cells in them, but they're not really made?

Ron: No.

Ron: I mean in terms of, like, the structure of a cell, what could be different about it?

Ron: Not just listing different parts of plants and saying they're different.

Speaker C: I did.

Speaker C: I said one would have chloroplasts and one wouldn't.

Ron: Okay, yeah.

Ron: And you did say some would be.

Speaker C: Rigid, some cell wall, and some would just have membrane.

Ron: Not really, but you're on the right track.

Ron: So with chloroplasts what are chloroplasts?

Speaker C: They make chloroforms?

Ron: No, they don't send people to sleep, but no, they are organelles.

Speaker C: Oh, yes.

Speaker C: From the organelles to the features of a cell is an organelle.

Ron: All of the little organs inside it are organelles.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: So different specialised cells can have different organelles quantity and presence.

Ron: So, for example, a red blood cell doesn't have a nucleus.

Speaker C: No, stupid red blood cell.

Speaker C: The white ones are the smart ones.

Ron: They are.

Ron: They actually have a lobed nucleus, but we'll come back to that in two to four years.

Speaker C: That sounds rotten.

Ron: Okay.

Speaker C: How do my crustcopy to get rid of my lobe?

Speaker C: Nucleus.

Ron: So what else could be different?

Ron: They could have different organelles.

Speaker C: They could be different sizes.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: Or different.

Speaker C: Smells.

Speaker C: Dancing.

Speaker C: Why are you dancing?

Speaker C: Shapes.

Ron: Yes, different shapes.

Ron: I was throwing some shapes.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: And then the last one you're not going to get it.

Speaker C: You can give up on me this early in rubbing the bridge of your nose.

Ron: We've been doing this for 20 minutes.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: And I've learned stuff.

Ron: You spent most of it singing.

Speaker C: I like singing.

Speaker C: It's more fun than science.

Speaker C: How does singing work?

Speaker C: It's blowing air over things, isn't it?

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: I think it's just vibrating giblets in your throat.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: I'm turning pizza energy into singing.

Speaker C: Energy into sound.

Ron: That's literally one of them.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: That's chemical turning into sound and kinetic.

Speaker C: I made the dog.

Ron: Anyway, so the last one is the cytoplasm.

Ron: You remember that?

Ron: That's the goo inside the bag, mom.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: That can have a different makeup.

Ron: So, like, the most extreme example one of the most extreme examples of that.

Speaker C: Is bronzer, bright red lippy.

Speaker C: I've got my pen again.

Ron: We're doing this over my lunch break.

Ron: I am not relaxed at all.

Ron: And I've got to go back into quite a difficult afternoon at work after this.

Speaker UNK: Okay.

Speaker C: The cytoplasm has different makeup.

Ron: It can be different.

Speaker C: Just as invites sales can be different because we're going.

Ron: To talk about this for quite a lot of the episode.

Ron: Otherwise it's going to be a short one.

Speaker C: Cells are different.

Speaker C: See you next week.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: So skin cells, the ones in the top layer, they actually don't have much, if any, cytoplasm.

Ron: They've cane all of that out of them and they've just filled themselves with protein that forms the barrier.

Speaker C: So dust is like protein powder?

Ron: Yeah, basically.

Ron: Do you think fuel comes from?

Speaker C: Oh, great.

Ron: So I thought it would be fun, and in hindsight, I was wrong, but I thought it would be fun if we did the next part of the episode.

Ron: I'll give you a couple of different types of sale and then you talk about how you think they are specialised to do the job that they need to do.

Ron: Okay, so we'll do a couple of them.

Ron: The first one, sperm cells.

Speaker C: They got tails.

Ron: Yes.

Speaker C: I love the word flagella.

Speaker C: I would have thought a sperm cell has a nucleus because it's got a smart job to do.

Ron: Do you think it has a nucleus, though?

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: Okay, let's think about it.

Ron: What's the sperm cells job?

Speaker C: To get in an egg?

Ron: Yes.

Ron: To do.

Ron: Yeah, kind of.

Ron: We'll learn about that.

Speaker C: I'm kissing.

Ron: Sperm cells don't actually have a nucleus because they've only got half of the DNA that they would need and they want to get that DNA into the egg as quickly as possible.

Ron: So if that was all wrapped up in an envelope, it's not going to be able to fuse with the egg's DNA to make a person.

Speaker C: Right.

Ron: Make a person.

Speaker C: Three motives have that sloppy about umbilical cord.

Speaker C: The mRNA just flapping in the wind.

Ron: Still DNA.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: But yes.

Ron: It's just flapping about in them.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker C: It's cytoplasm.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: So it's got a flagellum.

Ron: How do we think the Flagellum is powered?

Speaker C: Diesel?

Speaker C: F****** don't know.

Speaker C: Making ATP.

Speaker C: ATP, the energy produce yes.

Ron: Energy.

Ron: Currency of the cell.

Speaker C: Yes, ATP.

Speaker C: So we need ribozoids to make ATP?

Ron: No, cut it.

Ron: Do it again.

Speaker C: Riboids.

Ron: No, ribosomes make proteins.

Ron: The other one?

Speaker C: No, not ribosomes.

Speaker C: What's the other one?

Ron: It's like maybe an Irish person with a strange name.

Speaker C: Mitochondria.

Speaker C: The powerhouse of the cell.

Ron: The powerhouse of the cell, yeah.

Ron: So do you think maybe the sperm cells, mitochondria might be specialised in some way?

Speaker C: Maybe they're extra powerful to just be like, go?

Ron: No, they're normal powerful.

Ron: But they need to specifically power the Flagellum.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: So they're really near the Flagellum.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: So they're actually based all around the tale of the Flagellum, and there's lots of them concentrated in that area to provide ATP to pump the sperm cell along.

Speaker C: So if you've got bad swimmers, it probably means that either the gerllum or the mitochondria in your sperm cells doesn't work very well.

Speaker C: Postman is here.

Speaker C: Let me go and deal with my dog.

Ron: Okay.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker C: The post is delivered.

Speaker C: Sorry about the dog noise there.

Speaker C: Mackie just really misses our old post lady Claire.

Speaker C: If you're listening, Claire, we miss you every day.

Ron: Okay, right.

Ron: One of the last specialisation of a sperm cell that we'll talk about.

Ron: So sperm cells, they have to get their DNA into the egg based off all the different organelles.

Speaker C: Tell us about j**.

Ron: We'll do it about other things as well.

Ron: We got to start with j***.

Speaker C: So I think they need pointy faces or teeth.

Ron: You're not far off, but think a little bit outside of the box.

Ron: Think about the organelles that we've heard of.

Speaker C: There weren't any that were sharp, were there?

Ron: No, I didn't say you were right about the sharp thing, though.

Ron: I said you're not far off.

Speaker C: Is it more of like a dissolve the outside with a pool of some kind?

Ron: Yes.

Speaker C: So do the ribosomes do that?

Speaker C: Does a protein eat its way in?

Ron: It probably would be a protein.

Ron: It would be an enzyme.

Ron: I think when we talked about them, we called them either chemical bulldozers or sometimes they act like okay, you don't remember lysosomes?

Ron: They were the organelles that hold destructive things within the body.

Speaker C: What I'd like to be if I.

Ron: Was an organelle if you were an organelle, you'd be a golgi apparatus.

Speaker C: No, I can't even remember what that does.

Speaker C: And it's horrible word.

Speaker C: It's going on my list of horrible words.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: So sperm cells have a bunch of lysosomes right in their very tip.

Ron: So then they hit the egg, and then they kind of cheers all of the enzymes and stuff onto the egg, and then that eats away, and then they can fluve all their DNA into the middle of it.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: That'S sperm cells.

Ron: All right, let's think now about nerve cells.

Speaker C: Okay, so nerve cells need to be sensitive.

Speaker C: So no membranes to protect them, more membranes to philtre out messages.

Speaker C: Why do you look so sad?

Speaker C: Come on.

Speaker C: It wasn't that logical.

Speaker C: They need to be able to read what's happening.

Speaker C: So that's why I thought you'd just want to be exposed to the elements.

Ron: If it doesn't have the membrane, then.

Speaker C: It'S just a different does it have a myelin cheese?

Ron: It does.

Ron: Do you know what that is?

Speaker C: I think it's like a protective sheath around the nerve.

Ron: So what do nerve cells do?

Speaker C: They send messages to the brain to tell them what's touching you.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: So they relay messages.

Ron: They're quite a lot like wires.

Ron: So the mileage sheath is basically like the rubber casing under wire.

Speaker C: I once made a pharmaceutical video for a company and it was all about Ms.

Speaker C: And Ms is where the myland sheaths get damaged.

Speaker C: And we had a little drawing of some mice nibbling on the wires.

Ron: Okay, so think about that drawing.

Ron: Of a nerve cell.

Ron: What else do you think is different to a nerve cell than to any other kind of cell?

Speaker C: It's got to be really smart.

Speaker C: It's not going to be smart.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker C: It's got to be perfect.

Speaker C: Has to get to the brain quickly.

Speaker C: It's got to shoot a message away.

Speaker C: So it's got a spit message enzyme up itself.

Ron: So it's like a wire.

Speaker C: Yes.

Speaker C: It's got to have hands to pass the message along.

Speaker C: It's got to have a way to pass the message along.

Speaker C: Tweet.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: So it has something called the axon, which is the long bit.

Ron: Some nerve cells are really kind of freakily long.

Ron: Like, there's some that go from your toes to your hip.

Speaker C: That is disgusting.

Ron: Yeah, it's gross.

Speaker C: They are quite stupid, actually, nerves, because they do get trapped, don't they?

Speaker C: You don't hear of other cells getting trapped like nerves.

Speaker C: Idiots.

Speaker C: Get on my spinal cord.

Speaker C: Why do you even go in there?

Speaker C: There's nothing for you in here.

Speaker C: Imagine if that Megalong One got stuck in something, maybe ages pulling it out.

Speaker C: I don't think the hot bath is going to do it.

Speaker C: You remember when you were at school, did they tell you that the only way to get a tapeworm out of you is to get really hungry and then put a bit of chocolate in your mouth and wait for the tapeworm to swim up on?

Speaker C: Come and get it.

Speaker C: And then you had to grab it really quickly.

Ron: I heard you had to go to sleep with an orange and a Mars bar by your a**.

Ron: Someone would then have to wait for the worm to poke its head out of Marsbox because you don't know what they want.

Speaker C: Okay, so the axon.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: The axon makes it long and thin like a wire, basically.

Ron: And then it has a head at one end that has the nucleus and all the rest of the gubbins that needs to be in a cell.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: And then it's the axon that is covered in the myelin sheet as well.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: And then the other sort of changes that I was going to go through is differences in kind of the makeup of what is in the cell membrane, because do you know how nerve impulses are passed along?

Speaker C: Notes, Chinese whispers.

Speaker C: That's a brain.

Speaker C: And then I suddenly have a thought going, she's shutting the bin.

Ron: What's the way to describe this?

Ron: Simply, it's like a Mexican wave of pumps turning on and off.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: So the reason why I was talking about this is because in the cell membrane, they have lots of pumps that keep certain ions on one side and certain other ions on the other side.

Ron: I think it's potassium ions and chloride ions, I think.

Ron: And basically the pumps keep them all on one side, and then the impulse comes along.

Ron: The change in polarity of the ions that's on either side then causes the pumps to open and then it's like a Mexican wave of.

Speaker C: So each one opens its pumps.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Going along.

Speaker C: Bring it like a canal, actually, with lock gate.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: You'd be in charge of the analysis.

Speaker C: Yes.

Speaker C: Each stretch of the canal has a lock gate, which is the membrane.

Speaker C: And then when the electrical impulse, when the surge of water changes in their bit of the canal nerve cell, they impulse who open the gate and they send the water message onto the next one.

Ron: No, it's wrong.

Ron: Let's just move on.

Ron: Because this was just them flavour added by me.

Ron: This wasn't part of the syllabus.

Ron: So let's move on.

Ron: Let's just keep going.

Ron: It will be okay.

Ron: Ron muscle cells.

Ron: Last one of these will do.

Ron: What do you think is different about muscle cells?

Speaker C: They live under the sea.

Speaker C: They're fit.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker C: Muscle cells, if you eat protein, you get big muscles.

Speaker C: So I think muscle cells scrum up protein.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: They have lots and lots of muscle protein in them.

Speaker C: Great.

Speaker C: I would imagine they either grow or reproduce.

Speaker C: Yes, most cells do, because the domussile cells do that.

Speaker C: Especially because I'm working out.

Speaker C: I can make my muscles grow, but I can't make my bones grow.

Ron: No, true.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: And they do do that.

Speaker C: They need to be flexible to move around.

Ron: All cells are pretty flexible in animal cells, anyway.

Ron: But what else do they need to move around?

Speaker C: Huh?

Ron: What else do they need to move around?

Ron: Think back to the last episode that we did.

Speaker C: They need to move energy around.

Ron: No, they need energy to move around.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: So they need lots of energy.

Speaker C: So therefore they have big batteries.

Speaker C: Is there an organelle that's a battery?

Ron: No.

Speaker C: ATP.

Ron: Yeah.

Speaker C: I'm just always going to say ATP now and just hope that that's the answer, because you always want it to be ATP.

Ron: But where does the HDP come from?

Ron: Laurie?

Speaker C: It comes from f***, I didn't write it down.

Speaker C: The lysosomes.

Ron: No, no.

Ron: Can you say the last one we talked about ribosomes.

Speaker C: No, no.

Speaker C: Why have I drawn an arrow from ATP to ribosomes?

Speaker C: Hat away.

Ron: Maybe think about the maybe look, I've even drawn maybe a guy from Ireland.

Speaker C: Oh, mitochondria.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: That's the only word I didn't say off my page.

Speaker C: Sorry about that.

Speaker C: Ron right.

Speaker C: ATP is made in the mitochondria.

Speaker C: It's MIT and it's a hypochondriac.

Speaker C: So it needs to make a T, please, to feel better.

Ron: So muscle cells have a lot of mitochondria.

Speaker C: Makes sense.

Ron: To make more energy moving swiftly on.

Ron: There were a couple of legitimately there are a couple of plant ones that they want to know the differences for as well, but I don't think we should go through them.

Speaker C: Are you too tired?

Ron: My hair is rapidly going grey.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: So something that you need to understand about cells is, even if they are differentiated, the DNA sequence is the same.

Speaker C: In all cells in your body.

Ron: Basic.

Speaker C: Or in one tulip?

Ron: Yes, in one organism.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: Let's say like a muscle cell.

Ron: When that divides, it's going to become another muscle cell afterwards.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: And when a skin cell divides, it's going to become another skin cell.

Ron: But the DNA in those two things is the same.

Ron: It's like different Lego sets that they all have the same pieces, but you don't have to put all of them out every time.

Speaker C: I understood the Lego bit, I don't understand how it relates to the cells bit.

Ron: So imagine each cell is like a big box of Lego.

Speaker C: Yes.

Speaker C: The cell is a box of Lego.

Ron: Sorry.

Ron: Yes.

Speaker C: F***.

Ron: Sorry.

Ron: We could say a box of Macano if that keeps with.

Speaker C: Cells were Lego blocks.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Because you're going to have to be more fluid and dynamic with your analogies.

Speaker C: I have a very specific once I'm told something that's it.

Ron: All right, how about I say my analogy and then you translate it into whatever f****** Hogwash you need to remember.

Ron: Okay, so imagine a sale is a big box of Lego that has multiple different Lego sets in it.

Ron: So it's got maybe Hagrid's hut in there from the Lego.

Ron: Harry Potter yeah, it was bloody good.

Ron: It's got maybe a Star Wars Death Star in there as well.

Speaker C: Too expensive.

Speaker C: The money is ridiculous.

Ron: So it's a big box of Lego with all these different Lego sets in it.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: When it divides, it's still got all of the bits, but you don't have to build each set every time for the muscle cells.

Ron: I don't know how this analogy is losing you that quick.

Speaker C: Not right.

Speaker C: Hang on.

Speaker C: One, suddenly the seller's dividing.

Speaker C: Secondly, it doesn't need all the bits.

Speaker C: I don't know what that means.

Ron: So DNA is a very long recipe for everything that a cell needs to make.

Ron: Right?

Ron: Yes, but what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't need to make everything in a DNA all at once.

Speaker C: Okay, yeah.

Speaker C: What's that got to do with anything?

Ron: So each cell has within it all of the DNA, but they only use a portion of it, the portion that it takes to become the specialisation that they need to be.

Ron: So muscle cell has all of the DNA, it has all of the recipes to become any type of cell, but it just uses the bits it needs to become a muscle cell.

Speaker C: Right.

Speaker C: That information was the integral piece I was missing.

Ron: Yes.

Speaker C: So every cell has Otilengi in it, but then when they reproduce, they don't just try and be a 20 course banquet because the cell would be messed up.

Speaker C: So they just pick one dish and they become that and the rest of the DNA just sits there?

Ron: If that's what it takes, yes.

Ron: But then once it's being turned into one dish, it just keeps on making that dish when it divides.

Speaker C: And cells just always divide.

Ron: It depends on the cell, but kind of yeah.

Ron: Until you get old.

Speaker C: And then they stop dividing.

Speaker C: And that's why all people shrink.

Ron: That's why all people die.

Ron: Yeah.

Speaker C: S***.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Some cells never divide.

Ron: So I think nerve cells, you're just one and done blood cells, red blood cells don't divide because they don't have a nucleus.

Ron: They're created in bone marrow and just kind of filtered into the blood, stuff like that.

Ron: There are different types, but, yeah, largely they just divide.

Ron: And that is what we're moving on to now.

Ron: You think of Joy Division?

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: Who were they?

Ron: Joy Division basically invented postpunk.

Speaker C: That's when the postman has a mohawk.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: So cell division, essentially all sales go through a cycle to divide.

Ron: That happens in specific phases.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: So the most important part of this is.

Speaker C: My process is the process of cell division.

Ron: It is indeed, yes.

Ron: So this is where the DNA lines up on either side, splits itself in half, basically lines up on either side of the cell, and then the cell nips itself in half.

Ron: And then you've got two cells.

Speaker C: That is mad that it can do that.

Speaker C: Imagine if I just did that right now.

Speaker C: I just went put all my memories on either side and then just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker C: And then there's two knees.

Ron: But you are doing that millions of times over every day.

Speaker C: Yes, I am.

Speaker C: Pretty cool, actually, now that you put it that way.

Speaker C: Thank you.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: Just got 50 billion more cells.

Speaker C: Just happened again.

Ron: Do you know how old your arm is?

Speaker C: Let's say two or three.

Ron: About eight.

Ron: Every eight years you get a new arm, essentially, because all the cells change.

Speaker C: So when you turn eight, your body just refreshes itself?

Ron: No, it will be different that's in adults, because in kids, obviously, they're growing.

Speaker C: Yeah, they're s***, aren't they?

Speaker C: And they're hurting themselves.

Speaker C: Their cells must be fallen off.

Speaker C: Right and centre.

Ron: It is.

Ron: The DNA in your cell is organised into chromosomes.

Speaker C: Oh, I've heard of those.

Ron: Humans have 23 chromosomes.

Ron: Okay.

Speaker C: Impairs.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: They are impaired, usually.

Speaker C: Sometimes they're in bananas.

Ron: Pill.

Ron: Bloody struggle today.

Speaker C: How good is your afternoon back at work going to feel after this?

Ron: I can't wait.

Speaker C: Dealing with adults again.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: The chromosomes not being found in pairs is what causes changes in people's bodies.

Ron: Like down syndrome.

Speaker C: Yes.

Ron: So down syndrome is caused by something called tricomide 21, which is when the 21st chromosome, there's three of them instead of two, and stuff like that.

Ron: And then there are different things that can change about someone's body if different ones are a triplicate or more.

Speaker C: That's exciting.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: And yes, we have 23 other things have more, other things have less.

Speaker C: 23 pairs or 23 chromosomes?

Ron: 23 pairs of chromosomes.

Ron: One of the pairs is obviously X, Y or Xx.

Ron: That's what determines biological sex when you're born.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: Girls being Xx, males being X.

Ron: Y.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: And there's lots of interesting stuff about especially the X and Y chromosomes, because they're weirdly competitive.

Speaker C: Why not just use the Z?

Speaker C: Why not y and Z?

Speaker C: It really annoys me that they're not quite at the end of the alphabet.

Ron: I don't know, actually.

Speaker C: Can you find out for next week, please?

Speaker C: Or if, you know, listening, please tweet us or instagram us at Lex Education.

Ron: Please do.

Ron: So the last thing we'll go through today is the cell cycle, starting with mitosis.

Ron: So we have the M phase.

Ron: That is mitosis.

Ron: That's where it splits.

Speaker C: Mphase.

Speaker C: Splitty, splitsville.

Speaker C: This cell is getting a divorce back.

Ron: Then, after that split, yes.

Ron: You can imagine the sale is quite small and it's vulnerable because it's just split in half.

Ron: So then it has g one, the growth phase.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: That's when you have to do a lot of working on yourself.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: A lot of introspection, a lot of just doubling up on organelles and stuff, making sure you got all the stuff to be a happy little chappy sale.

Speaker C: Stay in, have some ice cream.

Ron: Then we have the S phase.

Ron: S stands for synthesis.

Speaker C: Synthesis.

Ron: So, DNA synthesis.

Speaker C: I play a lot of at music.

Ron: This is when the cell doubles up on its DNA, getting ready to split up again.

Speaker C: It's going to double its DNA.

Ron: Now it's writing a prenup.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: Just making sure that when you move out, you've got all the recipes are doing.

Speaker C: You coming around saying, oh, what's your red carpet recipe again?

Ron: Is that your idea of what a divorce is like?

Speaker C: I imagine if Tom and I ever got divorced, that would be quite what it was like.

Speaker C: I can't imagine shouting at each other.

Ron: Can you imagine him cooking or him having a recipe that you would want?

Speaker C: No, that's true.

Speaker C: Maybe it would be more me going, can you make sure you're logged out of my delivery account, please?

Speaker C: Because I don't want to be paying for the three meals a day you order from those poor little green men.

Ron: And then after the DNA synthesis, guess what?

Ron: It has another growth phase grows again.

Ron: Yeah.

Speaker C: G.

Speaker C: Like a g six growing again.

Ron: And then we do mitosis again.

Speaker C: Boom.

Speaker C: Back to the beginning.

Ron: That is it.

Ron: Four stages.

Speaker C: Sad little life.

Speaker C: I just really hate to be anything other than a human.

Ron: I'd quite like to be an otter sometimes.

Speaker C: You just wet all the time.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: I like swimming, though, but I don't like the idea of being a fish.

Ron: That seems tiring.

Ron: So like being an otter or maybe a beaver.

Speaker C: I don't think I'd like to be wet for my whole life.

Ron: But they're not wet, they're dry.

Ron: They have coats on.

Speaker C: Yeah, the coat is wet.

Ron: No.

Ron: Yes, but they're so oily that the water doesn't get in.

Speaker C: I would not talk to you if you were oily all the time.

Speaker C: Why do you have this dog pooho house covered in oil?

Ron: And I think that's our lesson for today.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker C: All right, I've made copious notes, which I hope will help me with the quiz.

Speaker C: So we're going to take a short break now and we will be back in just a second.

Speaker C: Slash next week with the quiz.

Speaker C: Ron, we're in the same room with Face to Face.

Ron: Hello.

Speaker C: And it's quiz time.

Ron: This is the first time we've recorded in the same room, despite multiple opportunities.

Speaker C: We're bad and everything.

Speaker C: Where's my cool notebook?

Speaker C: Ow.

Speaker C: I've lost my notebook.

Ron: It's part of this stack of notebooks over there.

Laura: No, it's a different notebook.

Speaker C: I have too many notebooks, arguably.

Ron: Well, we're not doing chemistry today.

Speaker C: Yeah, okay.

Speaker C: Maybe it's not that useful.

Speaker C: Okay, right, the quiz.

Speaker C: What did we do last time?

Ron: I can remember.

Ron: I had to listen to the last episode, too.

Speaker C: That was a good sign, isn't it?

Ron: Okay, okay, so there are unless you think of any answers, I didn't think 4311 points out for grabs.

Speaker C: Okay, eleven points.

Speaker C: Okay, I want eleven points.

Speaker C: I want my notebook.

Ron: Still looking.

Speaker C: I'll use a different one.

Ron: Okay, so last time we talked about sale specialisation differentiation.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Okay, what specialisations does a sperm cell have?

Speaker C: Loads of flagellum.

Speaker C: Big flagellum.

Ron: One Flagellum.

Speaker C: One Flagellum.

Speaker C: But they make ATP really near the flagellum.

Ron: What makes ATP 420 p pieces?

Speaker C: Is it the mitochondria?

Ron: Mitochondria?

Speaker C: Mitochondria, yes.

Ron: So that's two points.

Ron: Okay, I've got four answers here.

Speaker C: They also have the Lysosomes up top to spit acid at the egg to delve in.

Ron: Absolutely.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: That's another one.

Speaker C: Oh, God.

Laura: Is there another one?

Ron: There's one more.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Think about the purpose of a sperm.

Speaker C: They got free loading DNA, just flapping in the breeze, no membranes, no bloody nucleus.

Speaker C: No nucleus, which is the membrane.

Ron: Okay, technically an envelope.

Speaker C: None of that was in my head until I started talking and then it all started coming out.

Ron: There's another point for that, actually, I reckon.

Ron: Yeah, you can do it.

Ron: Follow the thread, pull that thread.

Ron: There's another point.

Speaker C: What do you mean?

Ron: Think about the purpose of the sperm yes.

Speaker C: To get in the egg and then join up and reprocess itself.

Ron: But what's it given to the egg?

Speaker C: It's heart.

Ron: No, we just talked about it.

Speaker C: It's DNA.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: So what's different about a sperm's DNA to another speed?

Speaker C: It's only half the DNA.

Ron: Yes.

Speaker C: GCSE would be really easy if somebody was questioning you the whole time.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: And if you were 35.

Speaker C: P*** off.

Speaker C: All right, I'm calling that five points.

Ron: Okay, lovely.

Ron: Number two.

Ron: We're just going to do three true or false statements.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: A muscle cell and a liver cell have different genetic sequences.

Speaker C: What is a genetic sequence?

Ron: DNA.

Speaker C: Okay, so based on what we just discussed with sperm, I'm going to say yes, true, they have different so why is the sperm different?

Ron: Because a sperm is a different type of cell.

Ron: It's a gamete.

Ron: It is literally designed just to mash with an egg.

Ron: The egg has the other half of it, where, like, sperm cells don't replicate, so they only have half.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker C: They're one and done.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: Whereas muscle cells, liver cells, every other type of cell needs to replicate, so it needs all of the DNA.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: Animal cells cannot undifferentiate.

Ron: True or false?

Speaker C: I don't even know what that means.

Speaker C: What does that mean?

Ron: So, do you remember that recap, repeating the purpose of the quiz.

Ron: Differentiation.

Ron: Like cells becoming different things from the stem cells.

Speaker C: Do we talk about that?

Ron: Yeah, that's all we talked about, I think.

Speaker C: Animal cells what's the question?

Ron: The statement is animal cells cannot undifferentiate.

Speaker C: Undifferentiate.

Ron: So once it's become one thing, a muscle cell, say, could it then become a liver cell if we wanted it to?

Speaker C: No.

Ron: True.

Speaker C: Yes.

Ron: All human cells are roughly the same size.

Speaker C: Wrong.

Speaker C: Fail.

Speaker C: Negative.

Speaker C: False.

Ron: Yes.

Speaker C: I can't remember the word.

Speaker C: False.

Ron: Yes, some of them are wildly different sizes.

Speaker C: Okay, well done.

Speaker C: The lowdown dog.

Ron: Nice.

Ron: We're in for a clean sweep.

Ron: But I think you might no, because.

Speaker C: I got that one wrong.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: We're not in for a grubby sweep.

Ron: What are the four stages of the.

Speaker C: Sell cycle, Mrs Gran?

Ron: The fourth cycle?

Speaker C: Let me think, let me think.

Speaker C: Oh, it's something to do with the beef up.

Speaker C: They split up.

Speaker C: They beef up again.

Ron: Circling the bowl.

Ron: Yeah.

Speaker C: What else do they do there's?

Speaker C: Definitely like a.

Ron: Right, think about it this way.

Ron: Default a new cell.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: Is it brand new?

Ron: Where does it come from?

Speaker C: The sun got a box.

Speaker C: Is it split off another cell?

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: The previous cell is split into and now you've got two small new cells.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Ron: Okay, let's take this new one.

Ron: Let's manage.

Ron: What does it have to do first?

Speaker C: Eat.

Speaker C: Get energy.

Ron: It's a small new sale.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: Big grow first.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker C: Beef up.

Speaker C: I said beef up.

Ron: You said beef up.

Ron: The stage isn't called bu.

Speaker C: One grow replicate itself.

Ron: Not yet.

Ron: So it's grown for a while and now it's going to prepare to split again.

Speaker C: Copy everything.

Speaker C: Not everything, just the DNA.

Speaker C: Copy the DNA.

Ron: That's the S phase.

Speaker C: Then it's going to split.

Ron: No.

Speaker C: Then it's going to grow again.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Then it grows all of the organelles and stuff again.

Speaker C: Then it splits.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: You're getting one mark for this.

Ron: You can tell me what the splitting process is called.

Speaker C: Mitosis.

Ron: Nice.

Ron: Now you have two marks.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker C: How many marks were available if people listening knew all of that?

Ron: Four.

Ron: One for G one growth phase one.

Ron: Beef up one.

Ron: Let's see.

Speaker C: So about nine out of twelve so.

Ron: Far, actually, let's say five points, because if you said then it was the DNA replicating stage, that would be a mark.

Ron: If you then correctly name that the S phase.

Ron: I'll give you another one.

Ron: G two, growth two.

Ron: And then mitosis.

Speaker C: Okay.

Ron: And that's the quiz.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Let us know how you got on the quiz.

Laura: And if you've got any other feedback from our return to biology and I'll look at cell differentiation, then you can drop us an email lexeducation@gmail.com, or you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Tik, tok.

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Laura: Why not?

Laura: Cowards.

Ron: Yeah, do all those things.

Laura: You risk Quinty today.

Laura: Ron listen, we've got a possible segment for the show.

Laura: Kevin of first time listener fame got in touch to tell us about a science experiment.

Laura: He dangled a fantastic piece of information in front of us that sometimes you can punch a liquid and it will turn solid.

Ron: Have you never heard of this before?

Laura: No.

Laura: Ron, what world do you live in where people are talking about stuff like this?

Ron: Did you not watch brainiac John Tickle die in vain?

Laura: See, I was a bit older than you.

Laura: John Tickle, for me, is the Big Brother contestant that had a great toaster idea.

Speaker C: Did John Tickle die?

Ron: They're called non Newtonian fluids.

Ron: They become solid under impact.

Ron: Ketchup is one as well.

Ron: That's why it's really hard to when you whack a bottle of ketchup that it doesn't come out because it becomes a solid in there.

Laura: And these liquids are just flipping the bird at Newton.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: John Tickle walks across a swimming pool of custody.

Laura: Right, we need to try and get John Tickle on the podcast.

Laura: I think that might be our aim number one.

Laura: Let us know.

Laura: Aim number one, john Tickle on the podcast.

Laura: Aim number Two a Whole New World, featuring Ron's friend Noah So, Kevin's experiment.

Laura: Oh, I love that.

Laura: Lexbone.

Laura: That can be the name of the segment.

Laura: So if you have a science fact or a science experiment that you want everyone to know about, get in touch, just drop us an email.

Laura: Lexeducation@gmail.com.

Laura: Kevin's experiment.

Laura: He says a couple of spoonfuls of cornstarch in a bowl.

Laura: Now, a new corn starch could be used to thicken gravy, and you slowly stir in water until it gets just runny enough that it flows.

Laura: It should be a bit hard to stir.

Laura: If you've got it right, you should be able to squeeze it and it'll feel like Silly Putty and then turn back to liquid when you let go.

Laura: This will make a liquid that turns into a solid when you punch it.

Laura: Ron, here's my question with this, though.

Laura: How do you punch a liquid without just punching the bowl?

Ron: Make a loss of it, like a.

Laura: Whole barrel of cornstarch and water.

Ron: That's quite a broad church of liquid vehicles.

Ron: It doesn't have to be like a bowl or a barrel.

Speaker C: Yes, it does.

Laura: Those are the two vessels that liquids convenient.

Speaker C: So anyway, if you want to have.

Laura: A go at the first experiment, it's Kevin's experiment.

Laura: Give it a go.

Laura: Send us some pictures of you punching a liquid safely.

Laura: Please don't hurt yourselves.

Laura: But if you make punchable soup, we want to know about it.

Laura: And if you've got a science experiment you love, or a fact that you love, let us know and we'll include it in next week's episode when we're back to chemistry.

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