T For Touchdown?

 T For Touchdown?

Welcome to another episode of Lex Education. It's the comedy science podcast

Laura: Foreign. Hello, and welcome to another episode of Lex Education. It's the comedy science podcast where comedian me, Laura Lex, tries to learn science from her, uh, normal, younger, clean brother, Ron.

Ron: Hello.

Laura: Hi. How you doing, Ron?

Ron: Pretty good. Did you not watch the thing that I sent you?

Laura: Um. Um, no, I didn't yet, because we were recording. Oh, uh, hang on, let me find it.

Ron: No, it's like three minutes long.

Laura: Oh. Why did you send it just before we started recording then?

Ron: Because I thought we could have watched it and talked about it.

Laura: Huh. Huh.

Ron: Anyway, welcome to another episode of Lex Laura. Lex Education.

Laura: Laura. Lex Education. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.

Ron: What are you doing now?

Laura: I'm applying for a gig.

Ron: Oh, uh, is that how it works these days?

Laura: Yeah, that's how it's always worked. Oh, uh, it's near Bristol, actually.

Ron: Don't do that now, Lauren. This is one of our worst starts ever.

Laura: Well, just edit this bit out, Ron.

Ron: You know that I won't.

Laura: Well, you should. God, you're mean. Why are you so mean about our podcast?

Ron: Um, it's part of my shtick. I'm the heel.

Laura: Oh, this is Leroy Jenkins.

Ron: Yeah, don't watch it now.

Laura: I just skipped to the Leroy Jenkins bit.

Ron: Yeah, it's good. It's funny.

Laura: You need to edit this later on. Okay, maybe. Um, so listen, just. Fuck. This is bad, Ron. This is bad. This isn't professional podcasting. You have to really zhuzh this up.

Ron: Um, stop talking about zhuzhing.

Laura: Well, do some zhuzhing then. What are you playing with? You're putting a sleepy time mask on that pineapple?

Welcome to the podcast, everyone. I'm going to Scotland next week

Welcome to the podcast, everyone. We've already recorded three things this morning. We've already done an intro and a quiz and a lesson, and this is the second intro. That's why we're a bit messier than even normal. Um, it's just that I'm going to Scotland next week, and I don't know where Ron is, but he's never available anymore for recording.

Ron: I'm available next week.

Laura: Not until Tuesday.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah. And I'm on a tour of Scotland. Yeah, I'm gonna see younger sister of the podcast.

Ron: Nice.

Laura: We're going for a night out in Inverness.

Ron: Fun.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Why don't we do, um, two Lies, One Truth while you're up there?

Laura: Because I don't want to take a, uh, microphone with me.

Ron: Doesn't she have one?

Laura: No. And also, I'm not going to her house.

Ron: Why aren't you going to her house?

Laura: Because she's coming to stay in Inverness with me.

Ron: Oh, all right.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Questions over.

Laura: We're going for a night out.

Ron: You're going for an evening out?

Laura: No, we're gonna go clubbing.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Yep. In Inverness.

Ron: Wow.

Laura: I've got no idea what this episode's gonna be about, Ron. Physics.

Ron: Oh, God.

Laura: I haven't made any notes about it.

Ron: Physics is the fucking pit.

Laura: Two six. What was two six? Oh, wait, no, this is. Oh. Ah. This is the pits. This is. This is precision, repeatability, errors, um, Kilowatt stuff.

Ron: We've just attempted to record the next one of those and.

Laura: What do you mean attempted? It was lovely.

Ron: You kept on getting cross at me for talking about other stuff.

Laura: Yeah, because you did keep talking about other stuff. And then. The thing is, though, Ron, that you think making it peppy is to talk about other stuff, but it just drags out how long we're doing the ship. It's.

Ron: I think it's just. I think you're imagining that, like, zhuzh helps, whereas I think just like, what you're trying to do is you're trying to make, you know, like, medicine really delicious. You want us to be Cowpole. Yeah, Cowpole's really hard to make. Whereas what I want to do is I just want to make, like, pills crumbled up in dog food.

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Ron: You see what I'm saying?

Laura: Yeah, I guess. I guess, um. I guess my aim for making a completely pointless format just for entertainment value was that it was entertaining, um, rather than just we just got it done for the sake of it.

Ron: Well, I just thought, uh, the format was to sort of Trojan Horse in just having a podcast.

Laura: I understand that. Okay. I do think that in that case, the, um. The tangents should be. Something should be planned, I think.

Ron had an idea for a new book while doing a workout

So it's not just us discussing Cillian Murphy's face.

Ron: He looks like handsome Squidward.

Laura: He is handsome. Do you think he's, like, had fat surgically removed from his face to make it look that chiselled?

Ron: No, he always looked like that. Uh, right back to, like, when he was in the, uh, the early Batman films.

Laura: It must be cool to have an interesting face. Yeah, we've got really plain faces.

Ron: We're plain Janes. Yeah.

Laura: We're not memorable.

Ron: Sparkly blue eyes, though.

Laura: Yeah, but mine are so small. You have to be so close to see my sparkly blue eyes.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Um, so listen, you've got. You've got some dog food coming up now. It's got a nasty little paracetamol crumbled into it. God, they're dry and bitter, aren't they? Try not to choke on this heap of shit. Okay.

Ron: I don't think it would be a Moles redo special if the bed record was Agreed. Um, I think arguably that should maybe.

Laura: Happen, but it won't. So what we're gonna do.

Ron: Are we recording?

Laura: Yeah. Guess why I was late today, Ron.

Ron: Shit yourself?

Laura: No, I was doing a workout run.

Ron: Oh yeah.

Laura: And um, and then I had an idea for a new book while I was doing my workout.

Ron: Oh yeah.

Laura: Really excited. And I was thinking about it and I had to have a shower because I was stinky from my workout.

Ron: Go on.

Laura: But I've got a book. A book in my head. I'm very excited about this.

Ron: What is it?

Laura: It's called the Worst Taste Club and it's uh. I'm going to write it with younger sister of the podcast.

Ron: Cool.

Laura: And we're going to start with two sisters who are both going through bad breakups and. But very different breakups. And they are sort of having a, like, drunk coping night where they, uh, they pitch each other their worst exes and uh, you know, compete over who has the worst taste.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: And then, um, they make a little like, I think it'll be like a, like an underground club. Like think about like the underground drag scene. Cross with a, um, Judge rinder, cross with an open mic where they, they sort of put on this night called the Bad Taste club or the Worst Taste club where people come and pitch their bad exes to a jury and sort of, you know, you have a five minute slot to pitch your bad ex and then they sort of make friends with a load of people via the club and the club takes off and becomes a thing. But they make friends with all these people and they have this, um, this promise to each other where they, they won't date for a year because they have such bad taste. But part of the club is they have to do the worst versions of everything. So they all go on like the worst holiday they can find on TripAdvisor and they try out all the worst restaurants they can do.

Ron: So it's like celebrating the opposite of yes, man. It's no woman.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's fun.

Laura: That's a fun idea.

Ron: Yeah. Um, uh, man, uh, weeks ago, um, actually a month ago to the day, um, we were at the pub and then we found that near us there was a board game, board game speed dating event happening. Um, so we drunkenly bought a ticket for the gentle boy, um, and he has to go to this board game speed dating event, um, next month. And then Yesterday, um, one of our friends found that there's another speed dating event happening the day after. Um,

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Ron: but it's kind of the opposite of what you're saying. It's like this night. It's called Experimental Dating Volume one. Um, and it's this night where. The dating night of your dreams. Do you have single friends? Do you spend most evenings with them mourning their loneliness? Now is your chance to support each other in finding their soulmate. And you just. You have five minutes to go on stage and pitch your friend to the other people there.

Laura: I love it. Are you gonna go and pitch?

Ron: Yeah, we're all gonna go. Yeah, we're gonna play a song, I think.

Laura: Oh, yeah, yeah.

Ron: It says, um, like, ah, you know, you're not supposed to, like, talk about, like, their job or, like, you know, what, you know, their hobbies or anything like that. It's more like an impassioned plea.

Laura: Poetry.

Ron: Um. Um, yeah, that. That sort of thing.

Laura: Will they be there?

Ron: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Laura: Oh, what a horrible week you've made for the gentle boy.

Ron: He's dead keen. He loves it, probably. I don't know.

Laura: I mean, he has no problem getting tail.

Ron: When I went to see Caroline maby, um, I was sat next to a man and a woman, and then obviously she was like, so you guys are couple? And they were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And then I was like, okay, then, like, you're just friends then.

Ron says he manspreaded on his knee during a podcast interview

And they were like, we're both going through breakups. Um, was their thing. They're both going through separate breakups. And I was sat next to the dude, and he. I've never been so personally impacted by manspreading before. Oh, he was a huge. He was a man. Wider than his width. Um, and I tried to shuffle my chair, but they were all locked together. Um, so I couldn't. Um, but he kept on just being wider and wider, and I had to keep on sort of turning more and more and more. Um, and then when he got up, he fully just put his hand on my knee and used it to stand up, and then just went, sorry, and walked off.

Laura: Do you think he didn't know it was your knee until after it happened?

Ron: No, I think he is just that confident.

Laura: Wow.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Can you do that? Can you just use other people's bodies to get up?

Ron: He did. I didn't do anything. I didn't say, hey, that's my knee.

Laura: £4, please.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Ron, I'm really sorry that happened to you.

Ron: I was. I was fine.

Laura: I was okay, but you're still thinking about it. I don't know if you were fine.

Ron: Well, no, you were talking about, um, you and Meg having a sad ladies club, so it's just these two people going through breakups, it reminded me.

Laura: And you want to be in because your knee got abused this one time.

Ron: Yeah, I can be a part of the book, and maybe I'm. I just get my knee into stuff.

Laura: Oh, we're gonna write you in. We're gonna be like. We're gonna have a sad. Wow. Wow, boy. We're gonna write about the gap here, the ad break.

Ron: Do it.

Laura: Um, should we do some physics? Because we didn't do any chemistry last week, so we really can't have another week with no science.

Ron: I just want to record the Patreon.

Laura: Yeah, well, look, if we'd done a different podcast, I do think maybe we've done too many episodes recently. We'll make Thursday's record a Patreon one.

Ron: Yeah, we've done too many.

Laura: We've done a lot of science. I'm practically a scientist.

Ron: Right?

We're doing physics today, Laura. What were we looking at last time

We're doing physics today, Laura.

Laura: Okay. And you're about to say. What were we looking at last time?

Ron: What were we looking at last time?

Laura: Uh, oh, we were looking at standard form and all that. Millikilly Jilly Boozy.

Ron: The Millikili Jillies. Yes.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Um, but we're leaving that.

Laura: Oh, all right, then.

Ron: Loosely in the rear view mirror. Um, While it's quite a dry, dull. Uh, dull, dull, dull. Vagina start to physics. Um. Don't just say vagina.

Laura: You said dry, dry, dull, dull, dull.

Ron: Yeah. Um, Anyway, vagina. It's actually.

Laura: Have a vagina.

Ron: They're actually starting the physics course with, um, I think a lot of the base concepts that maybe you should have known the whole time.

Laura: It's, um, like, they wrote it just for me.

Ron: Yeah. So we've done 3.1 Yusuf SI units and. Oh, no, we haven't. Actually, there is a bit more of that that we need to do. Um.

Laura: Yeah, if you were Mr. Bowditch, you'd find a really cool way to teach this to me.

Ron: Well, Mr. Bowditch was a chemistry teacher, so. Hush your.

Laura: I'm sure he taught me all three of them, though.

Ron: Yeah. You weren't smart enough for, um, doing more.

Laura: No, I did separate GCSEs. When I did my GCSEs, we just had them all with one teacher.

Ron: Of course you did. Um, I missed this bit, so I haven't prepared it.

Light bulb energy measurement is a joule per second

Laura: Oh.

Ron: So do you know what a. What is.

Laura: This? Feels Like a joke?

Ron: No.

Laura: Oh, uh, um. Um, it's light bulb energy measurement.

Ron: It's a joule per second. Right.

Laura: Joule per second? Yep.

Ron: Do you know how they measure your energy coming out your house or going into your house?

Laura: Nope.

Ron: Kilowatt hours. So what that means is like, um, if you had something I haven't prepared.

Laura: Fuck me.

Ron: If you had something that was in watts but a thousand watts kilowatts and then you left that on for an hour, the number of joules that would be. So work that out. Laura, how many joules in a kilowatt hour?

Laura: I don't know.

Ron: Work it out, I suppose.

Laura: I don't know how to work it out.

Ron: Well, a watt is a joule per second.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: So if something was a thousand watts and you left it on for an hour, how many joules is that?

Laura: A thousand watts for one hour. Um, okay, so first of all I need how many seconds are in an hour? So that's 60 times 60, which is like 36 million or something. Where's my phone? Oh, it was away and now I've picked it up and I can see all the messages people have sent me and I want to reply. Instead of thinking nobody's messaged you and.

Ron: You don't want to reply, you perpetually have about 60. WhatsApps that you're ignoring.

Laura: 1296. Why have I done 36? 36. That's not anything. 3600. So I was right. Now what does that mean, 3600. What's the question?

Ron: Doesn't sound right. Because it's a thousand watts, isn't it?

Laura: A thousand watts for one hour?

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Oh, so that's just how many seconds are in an hour? That multiplied by a thousand.

Ron: Yeah, that sounds more.

Laura: There we go. Oh my God. 3.6 million. Yeah, I was right.

Ron: That's not what you said. I think I did anyway, so. Yeah, let's leave that behind. Now that bit's done, probably, uh, we'll move on to 3.2. Limitation of physical measurement.

You want to call your next Stand up tour The Errors Tour

Okay, Laura, Uh, we're talking about errors.

Laura: Hey, your friend and mine favourite one. Flynn.

Ron: Flynn. Error.

Laura: Errors. Flynn. Who's an error?

Ron: What?

Laura: Errol Flynn. Bad.

Ron: That was really bad. Man, that sucked.

Laura: The Greek God of Love.

Ron: Taylor Swift. The Errors Tour.

Laura: I wanted, I really wanted. I wished I'd called my last Stand up tour, the Errors Tour. Because Americans really pronounce eras errors as well.

Ron: I think it's not too late, do you reckon?

Laura: Yeah, my next tour's not till next year.

Ron: No. Rename this one. It's only called Switch. Oh, you got a show, though?

Laura: Yeah, that's the one I'll be touring next year.

Ron: Oh, uh, yeah, yeah, call it that. That's really funny.

Laura: The Errors Tour.

Ron: Yeah, yeah. And then you can just mock the. Do, um, like a mock version of the poster.

Laura: Shall I book Wembley for one night? Just. Just to see.

Ron: Yeah, but like a pub in Wembley.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: I think. I think that would actually be really funny if you found a venue in like. Yeah, in Wembley and Hammersmith and just do all of these places.

Laura: Like do one in like the Manchester Co Op. But like book a co op.

Ron: Yeah, yeah, that'd be nice. That's good content.

Laura: Find some Aviva, uh, offices

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Laura: and sit like an O2 phone shop and do a gig there. The London O2 Beckham would be very funny. I think Taylor is going to listen to me pitch this in a meeting and then not. Not help me book it.

Ron: Who's Taylor Swift?

Laura: No, my agent. That's confusing. Yeah, no, my agent. Yeah. Taylor Swift is my agent. I've never mentioned it before.

Ron: I mean, I think it's ballsy to think Taylor's even going to listen to that in a meeting and then you're asking her for help. Hey, I'm doing a pastiche to piggyback off your incredible fame.

Laura: I think she would want to help me out. She's, um, sprightly, two and a half years younger than me, so we're basically the same generation.

Ron: I think she'd come because she's 35.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: I thought you were 38.

Laura: I am.

Ron: So 35.

Laura: That's about two and a half years difference.

Ron: That's three years.

Laura: No, it's not. Because we're not born on the same day, are we?

Ron: No. She's born in December.

Laura: Yeah. And I'm born in September.

Ron: So you'll be 39 before she's 36.

Laura: Yeah, two and a half years. Anyway, uh. Um, I think she'd be my one effect. I think she'd love my stand up if she saw it.

Ron: Probably. I don't think she'd help you book it, though. I think she's probably. She's either incredibly busy or. Do you think rich people like that are busy or do you think they're just kind of vacant?

Laura: Um, I get the feeling with her because I really feel like I know her because of her music and lyrics. Um, I think she's having a really nice time at the moment because the Eras tour was so big and intense and it really feels like she's been seen out a Lot. She's been partying. She looks chill. Um, she coped really well with getting booed at the Super Bowl.

Ron: Why did she get booed?

Laura: Because Americans are trash.

Ron: But I thought she was beloved.

Laura: Yes, she is. By loads of people. Like, she sold out the arena that the super bowl was in, like three nights in a row. But then some people are gonna boo, aren't they?

Ron: Because I guess maybe, yeah. It's brutish men at the super bowl, maybe.

We are gonna do an episode on Taylor Swift. It's the best segment that we do

Laura: Yeah. Well, it's just people like to be contrary, don't they?

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Like the fans of the team that the guy that she's not dating. They're gonna boo her, aren't they? Date one of our guys. Boo.

Ron: Uh, Trump was there.

Laura: Ah, there probably lots of. You know, she's quite anti Trump. If there were Trump supporters there. Uh, boo.

Ron: Is she still dating that dude?

Laura: I believe so, yeah. She wore a tee on her upper thigh to the Grammys.

Ron: I don't know what that means, but okay.

Laura: Well, if you wore a T on your upper thigh, what would we deduce from that information?

Ron: Like the letter T. Yeah, T for touch. Touchdown.

Laura: No, T for his name, which is Ron. Okay, I'm putting this on the Patreon. We are gonna do an episode on Taylor Swift.

Ron: Uh, yeah, a detention on Taylor Swift.

Laura: Yeah, I'll tell you all about her. Uh, I'll put it here in the list next to flaked almonds. Um.

Ron: Why is flaked almonds on there?

Laura: Because we looked at that machine for flaking almonds one time.

Ron: Did we? I don't remember that at all.

Laura: Hence why we need to have a catch up lesson to discuss Lake Diamonds.

Ron: Why don't we have that as a segment on the Taylor Swift?

Laura: No, it needs a full hour.

Ron: Uh, or better yet, let's do that instead of buoyancy.

Laura: No, buoyancy is the only reason most of our patrons are signed up.

Ron: That's bullshit.

Laura: It's the best.

Ron: No one apart from you has ever, ever mentioned it.

Laura: It's the best segment that we do, Laura.

Ron: Limitation, Ron.

Laura: We're 17 minutes in.

Ron: Yeah, we're having a nice time, aren't we?

Child: Why is energy coming out of my house? I mean, going in

Laura: Yeah, but we've done nothing.

Ron: We did. What's a kilowatt hour?

Laura: It's if a thing took a thousand watts and, um, was on for an hour.

Ron: Yeah, that's how they measure energy coming out your house.

Laura: Why is energy coming out of my house?

Ron: I mean, going in, Laura. I mean, going in.

Laura: I was meant to get two new windows today, but their van's broken down. And they can't come.

Ron: Oh, no. You just got two big holes in your house.

Laura: No, luckily they hadn't taken the old windows away yet. They're smart like that.

Ron: Which windows, Child?

Laura: Uh, of the podcast's room and the living room.

Ron: That's an interesting smattering. Why those ones?

Laura: Because we can't afford to do all of them at once.

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Laura: And those are the two that feel the coldest. So doing it.

Ron: Uh, stained, um, glass.

Laura: Yeah. Butthole. Buttholes everywhere.

Ron: See, you're still thinking about the, um, game changer episode we watched.

Laura: Um, no, I thought, yeah, we're gonna go really religious in child of the podcast's room. We're also having them change to, like, an arch shape.

Ron: What religion?

Laura: Um, all of them. Each panel of the same is gonna be, uh, a different God and. Or thing to do with religion. Um, and then in the living room.

Ron: Really Satanist.

Laura: What did you say?

Ron: I said, really Satanist.

Laura: Well, SpongeBob arguably is.

Ron: Yeah, Clancy Brown.

Laura: Anyway, M. I need the toilet now.

Limitation of physical measurements affects how you measure things when doing experiments

Okay.

Ron: All right. 3.1.2. Laura?

Laura: Yep.

Ron: Limitation of physical measurements. So we're talking about how you measure things when you do an experiment and how that impacts the numbers that come out of the experiment that you're doing. Because when you're operating on the scales that we've been discussing recently, that is very, very, very, very small or very, very, very, very big. When it comes to very, very, very, very small, the equipment that you use is going to impact that greatly. Obviously, you can't measure something that's smaller than a millimetre with a ruler, so you need something else that's going to do that. Shielding your mouth with your hand doesn't stop that from being picked up by the microphone.

Laura: You can edit that out. Some of the professionalism has to be in the editing, not the behaviour.

Ron: Agreed. Okay, moving on. But were you thinking about the burp rather than listening to me?

Laura: No. Something smaller than a millimetre can't be measured by a ruler.

Ron: Okay, cool.

Laura: Does my voice sound really good today?

Ron: Say something like, do an ad read. Um.

Laura: Um. If you've been in an accident that wasn't your fault, give us a call. We can help you with everything from getting that bastard's details to getting a better car than the shithe he ran into.

Ron: I like it. Yeah?

Laura: Yeah. Okay.

Ron: Do you remember that video you did once about how the tube didn't used to exist, but people used to ride greased bears down their nails? Yeah.

Laura: I wonder if that's still on YouTube.

Ron: That was funny. Um, the phrase Greased bears pops into my head every now and again.

Laura: Almost like a. Like a Diane Morgan type thing.

Ron: That was quite Diane Morgan. Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Could have been you.

Laura: Could have been me.

Ron: Anyway, when you get. Oh, yeah, when you get cash, run.

Laura: Um.

Ron: Look at this. Cash.

Laura: Whoa.

Ron: What bro podcast is this? Shaking Fanning. Our cash.

Laura: If only we spent it, um, on the quality of the podcast.

Ron: Right. Can you let me finish this?

Laura: It's so boring, Ron. It's too boring.

Ron: Right, so when it's too small, make it spicy.

Laura: I literally can't be more Boweditch. Bow. Did you. Wow. Mr. Bowditch was our science teacher at school, by the way. He was an amazing bloke. Love him.

Ron: Yeah, he. But we. We are still a decade apart. Wasn't at the same time.

Laura: No, he just dedicated his life to teaching the children of Taunton. Um, okay. Oh, uh. God, I can't believe it came this so quickly. Physics. Why didn't we just do biology? We'd have finished biology by now.

Ron: The other. When you're measuring really big things, Even like a 0.01% margin of error, then becomes a big margin of error.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: See, uh, what I'm saying?

What is precision? A lack of errors. Something that's precise has fewer errors

All right, Laura, what is precision?

Laura: A lack of errors.

Ron: No, you could have. You could have something be very precise, but still have errors in it.

Laura: Yeah, I didn't say it was perfect. But something that's precise has fewer errors than something that's not precise.

Ron: That's not necessarily true.

Laura: You are, uh, precisely wrong.

Ron: No, precision is about razors.

Laura: They're always talking about precision. Oh, I think a bat. No, there's no bat in here. I thought I saw a bat for a second.

Ron: Laura, I think we should have. I think we should have a rule that in whenever we're doing these, like, trios of lessons.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: We can only phone in, uh, one out of the three. You are phone in. There was no bat. You made that up for attention. If anything, Ron, you made up that bat for attention.

Laura: I think it might have been my hair out of the corner of my eye.

Ron: Yeah, you do have some strength. Just turned, um, into witchy mad on the wrong side.

Laura: Yeah, it's because I had a shower and then I had more ideas about the book, and then instead of drying my hair, I thought about the book.

Ron: Can I finish a bit?

Laura: But didn't you ask me a question?

Ron: Yes. And then you didn't get it. I told you you were wrong, and then you went, no, you're wrong as you are. Want to.

Laura: That's not phoning. In the episode that's arguably doing the episode to the best of my ability.

Ron: I was confusing accuracy with precision, so what's accuracy

What's the question? What is precision?

Ron: Yes.

Laura: Specificity.

Ron: No, I was explaining it to you.

Laura: Well, why did you ask me then?

Ron: I asked, you answered, you didn't get it, then I was explaining. That's how this goes. And then you got distracted by a bat and then you forgot where we were in that cycle.

Laura: God. Okay.

Ron: Wobble up is basically about the, um, reduction in variance of a measurement, essentially. So if you repeat a measurement and you get the same result, then the thing you are using to measure is precise.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: It doesn't mean that it's accurate, though. Precision and accuracy are different.

Laura: Okay, hang on. Okay, so what's accuracy? Is accuracy a lack of errors? Um, I think that's where I went wrong. I was confusing accuracy with precision.

Ron: Yeah, yeah. So precision. If. If you were very precise at throwing darts at a dartboard, basically, you know, let's say we're aiming for the bullseye. Um, if you're very precise, then you might not hit the bullseye, but you're going to be hitting the same place every time, if that makes sense.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: So you're always hitting treble nine.

Laura: Accurate.

Ron: Um, would be, um, hitting around the bullseye. But if you're not precise, then there's going to be variation in around the bullseye. But still with that being the centre of where you're hitting. If you're accurate and precise, you're hitting the bullseye every single time.

Laura: Yes. If you've got two. Two darts. Players with three darts, each one of them hits triple nine three times. One of them hits bullseye, the wall and the landlord. But the one that hit the landlord is the most accurate because they hit the bullseye once out of three, whereas the other guy is the most precise because they all went to exactly the same place, but none of them hit where they were aiming for.

Ron: I think you've gone so extreme that that's not true. Um, because. Because for the. For the one that hit the landlord to be accurate, it's almost like the average of all of them would have to be closer to the bullseye, if that makes sense.

Laura: The landlord is lying down underneath the.

Ron: That's still gonna be further away than the triple nine, isn't it? Just admit you took it too far.

Laura: What if we're using a different type of average? We're not doing well.

Ron: It's not gonna be. No,

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Ron: because he didn't hit all they.

Laura: We're doing one out of three and naught out of three. Which one's More accurate.

Ron: But the average.

Laura: I'm not talking about the distance from it though, Ron. I'm talking about how many darts hit. That's how I'm calculating the average accuracy. One out, uh, of three versus naught out of three. That's more accurate.

Ron: It's not really how you do this.

Laura: Oh, God. Give me something.

Ron: No, earn something. But I think you get it. I do.

Laura: Then you just fucking admit that I'm right.

Ron: No, you're not right. I'll give you back down on the landlord thing.

Laura: The landlord.

Ron: You give me £20.

Laura: The landlord.

Ron: No, back down on the landlord thing.

Laura: And then you can be right.

Ron: You went too far.

Laura: The landlord is dead and his, his ashes were smeared into the 25. There is no 25 around the bullseye.

Ron: Oh, okay.

Laura: Where's that? 50 is the bullseye. The bullseye is 50. Right. 25 is the outer ring around it.

Ron: Okay. And the ash of the landlord is in there.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Then, okay, then you. Then what you said works.

Laura: Thank you. You're obtuse today.

Ron: No, you are.

True repeatability is how easy it is to repeat an experiment

Repeatability, Laura, Me and child of the.

Laura: Podcast played a game yesterday where we were both pretending to be pigeons.

Ron: Oh, yeah.

Laura: I'm really ruining that child.

Ron: How's. Why is that?

Laura: Now we walk along and I say, I'm a mummy pigeon. And she says, I'm a, ah, child of the podcast pigeon.

Ron: Why is that bad?

Laura: I just don't know if she should be getting into pigeons this early. Like, I started in my 30s and wasn't exactly a great period in my life.

Ron: You don't really have any other hobbies, so she may as well get into pigeons and then you guys can chat.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: True repeatability, Laura, is a measurement. If a measurement is repeatable using the same method, equipment, and then you get the same results. What repeatability is basically how easy it. Well, how much you can repeat something. Repeat an experiment.

Laura: So you could repeat. Measure the length of a table, but you couldn't necessarily repeat. Do, um, a catalytic experiment to check the amount of something in a solution because you'd have changed it using the experiment.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: That's a good example. Yeah. Or if you were to do an experiment to see, like, what happens if you throw a rock off a cliff. You're never going to find a rock that's exactly the same as the one that you just threw off.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: So that experiment's not particularly repeatable.

Laura: Yeah.

What's resolution in measurements? Um, how defined the rate of measurement is

Okay.

Ron: What's resolution?

Laura: Um, how crisp your TV picture is.

Ron: Yep. What's resolution in measurements?

Laura: Um, how defined the rate of measurement is like how small you can get it.

Ron: Yeah, basically. So what's the resolution of a ruler usually?

Laura: Millimetres.

Ron: Yep. What's the resolution of a, uh, thermometer if it goes to, uh, two decimal places? Pardon? Um.

Laura: A degree.

Ron: If it goes to two decimal places.

Laura: Yeah. I don't know what that means. A tenth of a degree.

Ron: You don't know what a decimal place is.

Laura: Yeah, but I don't know what that means about degrees. Nanodegree.

Ron: 0.01 of a degree.

Laura: Right.

Ron: Or 10 milli degrees.

Laura: 10 milli degrees, yeah.

Ron: Ah. So if you were to use a ruler. Um. So all of this. All of this builds into the accuracy of a measurement, basically. So then when you're recording these things. M. Let's say that we were measuring something with a ruler, um, and we saw it to be, let's say, 10 centimetres long.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Um. No, let's do 100 millimetres long.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Um, you would put zero point. They. You'd put 100 and then a plus or minus symbol, which is like a plus above. A minus.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Two millimetres.

Laura: But to say within that range.

Ron: Yeah, yeah. Because resolution

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Ron: is a easy place that you get like this, um, variance in accuracy. Because it could be more or less in that millimetre on either side. Why is it. Why would it be two millimetres, not one millimetre, if the resolution is one millimetre?

Laura: Um, I don't know.

Ron: Because you have that degree of resolution and accuracy on both sides, basically.

Laura: Right.

Ron: If you're measuring between two different things.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: If you were to just measure the temperature of something you don't have, you wouldn't double it because you're only making one measurement there.

Laura: That makes sense.

Ron: Yeah. Um. You okay?

Laura: Yeah, I just got really sleepy.

Ron: Okay. Um.

There are two different types of error, Laura: human error and systematic errors

There are two different types of error, Laura.

Laura: Human error and zero error.

Ron: I'm afraid we're two different categories of error and then fall into, um. Uh, those two fall into these two categories. So we have random errors and we have systematic errors.

Laura: Ooh. Okay.

Ron: Name a systematic error.

Laura: A zero error.

Ron: A zero error absolutely is a systematic error. So can you see how a zero error would make something not accurate, but wouldn't affect the precision at all? You might have some really precise scales, but because there's a zero error, it's giving you two grammes off whatever it is you're measuring, but you are getting that really precise measurement every time.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Um. What. Where could be a source of random errors?

Laura: Human error.

Ron: Yeah. So, like, if you. If you were trying to time, let's say, um, uh, how long it takes for Something to hit the ground after you drop it. You know, you're gonna start the stopwatch and release the thing as much as you can at the same time. There's never. Unless you use a mechanism like they would on Mythbusters, you're never gonna. Hundred percent, um, like, have those getting released at the same time. You just. Physically, there's gonna be a random amount of difference between those two things happening each time.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Um, so very, very simply, um, systematic errors have, uh, a pattern in their bias or a trend in their bias. Um, and then random errors. There is no pattern or trend.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Okay, so, um, trend there could be, um, with the systematic error, maybe the equipment that you're using for the experiment that you're doing is getting hotter, um, because it's just been in use for an hour. There's. When you started the experiment, it was cold, it hadn't been used. So then that might affect it. And then you'd see that the systematic error that the. The equipment is adding is then building up.

Laura: I guess you don't use batteries a lot in case batteries are running out.

Ron: Yeah, that's another one. Yeah. Maybe the voltage, um, from the battery is decreasing, so that's going to affect something in your experiment as well. Do you know what a parallax error is?

Laura: No, but it feels like something that would work in conjunction with something else, you know, so, like, as one thing does one thing, another thing does another thing.

Ron: Um, not so much. Um, a parallax error is where, if you're using a glass thermometer, um, or, you know, glass measuring, uh, cylinder or something, if you. If you sort of change where you're looking, um, at the. At the measurement from, you could see it differently.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: So, um, and if you. If you were always doing that from, let's say, standing height, you're going to get the same error on it each time.

Laura: And that could necessarily affect the accuracy, but not the precision.

Ron: Exactly.

Laura: A bit like a human zero error.

Ron: Yeah. Whereas if you, um, if you're getting a parallax error, but it's because you're sort of. You're doing it differently each time or whatever, then that is going to affect the precision because then it's going to be moving all around the place.

Laura: So would parallax be random or systematic?

Ron: Um, it depends how consistently you're getting the same parallax error. I'm now really paranoid of

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Ron: mixed m up what a parallax error is. No, it was correct.

Ron says he did a quiz show at the Edinburgh Festival

Laura: Well done, Ron.

Ron: How long have we been recording?

Laura: 42 minutes.

Ron: Well, let's leave it there, eh?

Laura: Alright. We did something.

Ron: Yeah. Better than the chemistry lessons.

Laura: Yeah, we're warming up a uh, quiz.

Ron: Quiz indeed.

Laura: Quiz in. Oh, do you remember Quiz in My Pants?

Ron: No, what's that?

Laura: That was the first ever show I did at the Edinburgh Festival.

Ron: Oh you did a quiz show?

Laura: Yeah, a sort of comedy panel show.

Ron: Ah, with who?

Laura: Nicola Bolsover. Don't know them, she was a university friend. Um, we had some good guests there. We had Tom Allen on that. I've got a photo somewhere of me and Tom Allen sitting on tiny stools in a pub on the free Fringe doing quiz in my pants.

Ron: I love Tom Allen now.

Laura: He's like a megastar.

Ron: Yeah. He's on Channel 4 and the like.

Laura: Yeah. And like he does big advert for lotto or something. People's postcode, something like that.

Ron: Yeah. He's camp in that very specific way that the British public just can't get enough of.

Laura: Yummy, yummy, yummy. That's what the British public say. I'm going to put my hand down in the uh, in the Google Meet now the eagle eyed eared listeners from four episodes ago.

Ron: They'll hear the frost.

Laura: Oh, my hand has been up for a long time.

Short quiz about the Ukraine war, only four questions really

Ron: It's going to be a short quiz today. Laura.

Laura: Yeah. We didn't do a lot of content did we?

Ron: Well I feel like we were talking about stuff for ages in the physics episode but then I looked at yeah what we went through and it was like half a box on the, on the syllabus.

Laura: I sat down to do some revision Ron and I looked at what was in my notes and went yeah, there's nothing here.

Ron: Yeah, it's only four questions really. Um, because the thing is that like what we covered in this episode we.

Laura: Could see if I could get all the states again. How many was I off last time?

Ron: I think you got uh 44. You got 54.

Laura: I got 50 states. Yeah. I was very good at it. Well we added Ukraine, that's a new state. I've been writing tropical comedy all day.

Ron: If you could. Um, I thought it was Gaza that you wanted to annex.

Laura: Oh well he's been having peace talks with Putin and um, told Ukraine that they should never have started the war.

Ron: Mm m. Yeah I did see that as well. That straight white guy confidence though.

Laura: Oh Ron, impeccable. I read um, articles about the war for about two hours the this afternoon and um, let me tell you the film of this conflict will not pass the Bechdel test. I don't even Know if it'll need a woman in the cast. It's quite incredible how many men, um, um, asserting themselves there are in this scenario.

Ron: Yeah. On a similar note, um, I've said this, I think a couple of times on the podcast. I've been saying this for a long time. Christopher Nolan gets criticised for not having enough women in his films and then after that point, starts exclusively making films about events where there weren't that many women. Latest one that he's announced he's making the Odyssey.

Laura: O, that could be some lady fish swimming around.

Ron: Oh, there'll be women in it. But he can't make the main character a woman. And you know, like, like the things that he should be doing in this movie. White guys too.

Laura asks Ron what's the difference between precision and accuracy

Um, Laura, what's the difference between precision and accuracy? Let's say for anywhere between 1 and 3 marks.

Laura: Okay, so precision is about getting the same result over and over again. It is. Uh, precision is the infallibility of the same result. Coming up. Accuracy is about getting the correct result.

Ron: Does something have to be precise to be accurate?

Laura: Something must be precise to be accurate, but something precise is not necessarily accurate. I could measure something three times the wrong way and get precisely the same result because I'm measuring it very precisely. But if my ruler is not accurate, I am not getting an accurate result. I am getting a precisely inaccurate result.

Ron: Love it. Nice. I'll give you three marks for, uh, that. Laura, for one mark, what's the resolution of, uh, a standard digital clock?

Laura: Three.

Ron: Three, Three.

Laura: It's a great question. Um, um, led, what's the resolution of a standard digital clock? So it's usually got four numbers on it, but I think if I say four, you'll see four. What?

Ron: At least that time you'd be able to say numbers.

Laura: Yeah. A standard digital clock usually just goes down to one minute. So I'm gonna say one minute, Ron.

Ron: Correct.

Laura: Great. Oh, panicked for a minute, then a full one. A full resolution. I panicked. When you picture a digital clock, do you picture that flat one that was by dad's bed for a thousand years and might still be there?

Ron: I don't think that was in my head. But as soon as you started talking, I was like, that's what she's gonna mention. Infamous. Infamous, uh, clock.

Laura: Wonder if it's still there.

Ron: Unless it broke, I can't imagine he's thought for a second about changing it.

Laura: What colour were the numbers on it?

Ron: Red.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Hmm.

Laura: Mhm. Anyone else's? Dad got alarm clock with red digital numbers by the bed.

Ron: Let us know Surely it wasn't an alarm clock, though.

Laura: I think it was, yeah. It had a radio function and an alarm on it. But Dad's never needed an alarm in his life.

Ron: No, that's what I was gonna say. Um, I also would have accepted, uh, going to the gym more or going to the time gym.

Laura: Oh, I love it, Ron.

Ron: Yeah, I was trying to think of something, like, to do with a digital clock, but, um, Digital Dan and Analogue Ann. Remember those two kooky characters?

Laura: Yeah. What were they in?

Ron: One of those random.

Laura: Digital Dan and Analogue Ann. I do remember them.

Ron: Was that the one where there was, like, a sandbox that you could build a city in and it was really satisfying?

Laura: Yes. Oh, my God, Ron, this is tickling my noodle. Trudy's time and place house.

Ron: Trudy.

Laura: Was it a video?

Ron: Trudy was a crocodile.

Laura: Yeah. Time twins characters.

Ron: Oh, there's the sandbox. That was always dope.

Laura: A jelly bean hunt. I remember the ant. Jelly bean hunt.

Ron: Yes.

Laura: On the workshop where you built robots.

Ron: Oh, my God. I think if I could hear the music.

Laura: I can hear the ant, um, chomping jelly beans right now.

Ron: That's what I want to hear.

Laura: Can you hang on? Uh, Go away. Look at this picture, Ron. Can't you hear it now?

Ron: I'm trying to find it. Hang on. I found a download. Oh, uh, man.

Laura: Oh, and that nasty little bird in the hat. Hated that bird. I've always had a problem with fictional birds.

Ron: Whoa. I found a video of it.

Laura: We're such different people. I found that video ages ago and just never watch videos on the Internet.

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Laura: Go two blocks forward to the jelly bean.

Ron: Forward.

How did you ever lose this game? What game? The. The Ant thing. That's the sound of the ant, Ron

Laura: That's the sound of the ant, Ron.

Ron: Oh, man.

Laura: Oh, the ant's playing a harp with its antenna. There's Analogue Ana. Digital Dan.

Ron: Thank you very much.

Laura: Can you set an to 7:30? My time is 11:45. Try shedding, Dan, to match my time.

Ron: How did you ever lose this game?

Laura: What game? The.

Ron: The Ant thing.

Laura: Oh, it got tricky, Ron. Um, I don't remember. My gosh. That. That is, um. That. That is a blast from the bloody past. So did we have that on a computer?

Ron: Yeah, we had that on the computer. That wasn't Dad's computer.

Laura: Yeah. Packard Bell.

Ron: I'm gonna stop Lucky. I was thinking, fuck, have we had this conversation before? But no, that was the Lion King game that we did this exact thing.

Laura: And then we watched the video of it at Christmas.

Ron: Mmm. Yeah. Anyway, so, uh, Laura, I must have.

Laura: Been far too old to have been playing that computer game.

Ron: It came out in 95. So I think it was just old when I was playing.

Laura: Oh, okay, that's fine then.

Ron: What would. You'd have been 15 in 95.

Laura: Shut your haggard mouth.

Ron: You'd have been 10m9 9.

Laura: Unless it came out after September.

Ron: Slightly too old for playing that game.

Laura: But think of the oxytocin from smashing the shit out of a game made for four year olds. Oh, baby computers we knew then.

Ron: Yeah, but we also had Descent.

Laura: Yeah. Oh, my God, I love Descent.

Ron: Descent still slaps.

Laura: If I had a proper mouse. Oh, Ron.

Ron: Uh, yeah, same thing. Could buy a mouse, to be fair.

Laura: Could buy a mouse, arguably. Could we buy some mice? Should we get mice this time next week, Ron, you'll be at my house. Why don't we go and buy mice.

Ron: Together and then maybe we could try and play, um, Descent online together? Yeah, I played a bit of Descent. Um, I just. Laura, this game came out in the early 90s. You don't need a gaming PC, play on a Nokia 200. You literally have to run DOSBox to play it. DOSBox is a programme that, like, opens things in binary or something like that.

Laura: You'll have to install all of this stuff on my computer.

Ron: No, it just works. It's great. Um, yeah, I did play a few levels, um, but I couldn't work out how to save, so I stopped playing because I had to start again every time. That wasn't fun.

Laura: Oh, I bet I still remember the route through that first, um, space station.

Ron: Yeah, because you go in and then you've got the red room directly on the left.

Laura: You've got those, like, dusty autumn robots.

Ron: No, wait, are you talking about. No, the brown ones.

Laura: Yeah, the ones that are like dead leaves.

Ron: I thought you meant the ones that were a bit more sort of beige. But those. Those guys are flying concussion missiles.

Laura: No, you would see those.

Ron: So you get in the reactor, they're.

Laura: Doing like, a laser at you. The basic, basic guys.

Ron: Yeah, the basic bitch ones. Um, yeah, they fire the. The yellow circles. Yeah.

A random error is something like a human error that doesn't follow any pattern

Laura: Have we finished the quiz? Just out of it.

Ron: No, no, no, we're halfway through. Um, Laura, what's a name, a type of random error. And, um, explain why what a random error is.

Laura: Um, a random error is something like a human error that doesn't follow any pattern. No. Wait, is human error the opposite to a random error? Actually, I think they're opposites. Hmm. Hm, hmm. Hmm. Oh, Mackie's in her bed now. I trimmed her eye hair today.

Ron: I wasn't listening when you said why she was up There.

Laura: What?

Ron: Why is she up there with you?

Laura: Because I'm up here working and I just like hanging out with her.

Ron: Oh, just ask as I've never known you to do it before.

Laura: Oh, yeah, she comes up here sometimes. Um.

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Laura: No, I'm going to stick with my initial gut reaction. A random error example is a human error. There's, like, no pattern or system to it. So, like, if it was a zero error, you would notice a pattern of problems in your results where they were always 0.3 grammes out, for example, whereas human error would not follow a distinct pattern like that.

Ron: Um, so I'm going to give you one out of two marks for that, because your explanation of what a random error is is completely right. But a human error is another category of error, but not a distinct one from random errors. Some human errors are random errors, Some human errors aren't random errors. It's another thing that can be applied to it. So, for example, I think the example that we talked through in the bulk of the episode would be like a random human error would be when you're timing something, just your reaction speed is gonna produce a bit of random error on that. That's human.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Um. Whereas. Yeah, I won't say it now. Ah. Yep, there she is.

Laura: You can only really see her head because she's the same colour as her bed.

Ron: I mean, that's white. It's not that. Miraculous.

Laura: Such a little precious angel baby.

Should we just stop making the podcast one? Is that where we're at

Ron: All right, Lauria, um, what's a type of systematic error and what's a systematic error?

Laura: A zero error could be a systematic error, Ron.

Ron: Oh, dear friend.

Laura: Yes. So an error within a system.

Ron: Well, I'm just going to give you two points.

Laura: Yeah. Because I already.

Ron: You already said it. Yeah, yeah. And we wasted precious quiz time on Digital Dan and analogue. We should, um. We should, uh, dig out any other ones of these random things that were on the PC.

Laura: I just don't remember them, Ron. Until suddenly you light the fuse. That wakens my brain and I go, whoa. I can smell the dust in the study. And that tiny brown TV that we had with the little silver push pin buttons.

Ron: Yeah. And all of the clutter.

Laura: So much clutter. Nine spinny chairs, only one of which worked. And everybody fought over it. Dad bench in the corner.

Ron: Oh, yeah, I used to play with my Beanie Babies on that. We were rad 90s dudes.

Laura: What are you, uh, a beanie head?

Ron: I had a small family of beanies and they all. They had a rich social life with a lot of, uh, connections between them.

Laura: Do you still have Dibble.

Ron: I have no idea where Dibble is or Dibble Junior. No, I wish I knew.

Laura: Dibble junior was the original Dibble and then the mum was Dibble Mum. I thought the small one was Dibble.

Ron: In my head it was Dibble and Dibble Junior.

Laura: Uh, well, you'd know better than me. This is a dog soft toy that Ryan used to have. Oh, my God. Dibble is very similar to Dobble.

Ron: Yeah, me, Dibble was my way. Uh, we called it Dibble because I used to dribble on it all the time, I think when I was a baby, maybe.

Laura: Yeah, it was definitely your toy when you were a baby.

Ron: That's 100% true. That's why it's called Dibble.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: So, uh, it wasn't named after a small sort of card game that came out?

Laura: Oh, I wasn't suggesting you were heavily into Dobble as a toddler. I mean, you were nerdy enough to.

Ron: But I was, um, too.

Laura: You didn't have time for that. And you have to play that with friends. And you were always alone.

Ron: Yeah, I was.

Laura: Massive head. Well, anyway, um, I did pretty well there.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Seven out of eight, Mark Bangin. Seven out of eight. Put it in the spreadsheet, Ron. Should we just stop making the podcast one? Is that where we're at? Should we just stop? No, I think you don't seem to like making it. It doesn't make any money. So I'm guessing that, like, 80% of people that have ever listened to it didn't really enjoy listening to it either. Stop playing with that fucking pineapple look.

Ron: Yeah, I know I enjoy making the podcast. It's just. Physics is dull.

Laura: Physics is really.

Ron: Next week we'll be recording the intros to, uh, biology and we'll be having a lovely lark again when I do my degree.

Laura: Should we just do biology?

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Well, I

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Ron: thought after a level, you were gonna do GCSE history to me.

Laura: Oh, yeah. I mean, let's see where we are by then. Yeah, in two to three years time.

Ron: That could be good.

Laura: Yeah, I'd enjoy that.

Ron: Yeah, I'd enjoy that too.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: More than teaching you about percentage uncertainty?

Laura: Yeah, it's dry bones.

All these patient people who have been funding this podcast want a simple thank you

Have, um, you done a register M?

Ron: That's unfair. We didn't know that we were going to be doing this intros outros until halfway through the last record.

Laura: But now I've made you look bad for the second week in a row. All these patient people who have been funding this podcast and all they want is a simple thank you and you won't do it.

Ron: No, but this is Upgrade one, so they've already been thanked once. This is just DND announcements.

Laura: Oh yeah, that's true. We got a message about somebody's request for that the other day. Yes, that's exciting.

Ron: I could just read that out verbatim.

Laura: No, no, we'll save it and we'll do it real nice. We're gonna treat you good one day listeners. But it's not today.

Ron: In two to three years when we're doing a format we both enjoy more.

Laura: We're gonna change. Right.

Did you listen to the last episode that I edited? No. That was the episode that you just listened to

Well, I've just got an email about Audible's daily deal that I can get for 2.99 only. Exclamation mark.

Ron: We haven't even done like. Are we on the outro now?

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Wow. We never even made any effort to delineate.

Laura: What are you talking about?

Ron: Well, usually you go, uh. And that was it. That was the episode that you just listened to it.

Laura: Yeah, but we don't know what the episode is.

Ron: No.

Laura: Maybe just record that with Judith and add that in.

Ron: Did you listen to the last episode that I edited?

Laura: No.

Ron: You're like, make sure that you put the school bell in there. Um, but I didn't have the school bell saved on my phone, uh, on my laptop when I was doing the editing.

Laura: So what did you do?

Ron: I just had to record it myself, so it just goes.

Laura: You sound like Mrs. Bad Crumble. Is Mrs. Badcrumble, um, Heddy Izzard's music teacher? Get out of Badcord. You'll miss the best part of the day.

Ron: I like Eddie Izzard. Ah, yeah. Class dismissed. It.

Laura: Mhm.

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