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Monday 16 January 2023

She's Making a Shit Book of Science

 Laura: Hello, happy Monday and welcome to another episode of Lexx Education, the comedy science podcast, where comedian me, Laura Lexx tries to learn icky sticky science from her marvellous brother, Ron.

Ron: Hello, I'm Ron.

Laura: Hi, Ron.

Laura: How are you?

Ron: Yeah, wonderful, thanks. Time of my life.

Laura: Look. Well, listen, we're doing an intro for this and it's mid January now, but it's actually still the 16th of f******.

Ron: December now, ten to five.

Laura: We just spent an hour and a half recording three weeks AGO's episode. We're livid with Each other but we're Trying to Sound bright and sparky, but we're back off our holidays. So if you wanted to get in touch on social media for a shout out on the pod, do it this week, because next week we're back caught up. You'll hear all our tales of being on holiday and how our Christmases went. Ron, how do you think Mexico went? What are you going to talk about? Did you get the poops?

Ron: I will get the poops. I'm going to eat taco after taco after taco. I'm going to see no, I've seen the Atlantic Ocean before. I'm not going to outbound Mexico. I'm going to leave Europe for the first time. That's fun. Going to go to no. Have you?

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Where have you been?

Laura: Dubai.

Ron: Oh, yeah?

Laura: Caribbean.

Laura: What?

Laura: Have you been to the Caribbean before you were born?

Laura: Mum and dad used to take us on really cool holidays.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Never left Europe before.

Ron: I'm going to the US of A.

Laura: Sweet.

Laura: Is that like a stopover on the plane?

Ron: Yeah, I think Houston in one direction and then sunny Miami on the way back.

Laura: Nice.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: I remember stopping in Maine on the way to St Lucia and I got a troll doll from the airport.

Ron: Nice.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: So, anyway, that's what we assume Ron has been up to.

Ron: Laura, how has your Christmas been?

Laura: My Christmas was delicious, but I've been in.

Ron: It was a bit much, wasn't it?

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Probably got sad at some point because I haven't got kids.

Laura: Then I had a cake and cheered up.

Laura: That sounds like me.

Laura: Then I went to Inverness at a great time.

Laura: It was very cold and there were cute puppies there.

Ron: Probably got sad again.

Laura: Probably got sad again because I haven't got kids.

Laura: Then I went for a walk and cheered up.

Laura: Let's call it that, shall we?

Laura: I'll tell you about a row I had with Tom.

Laura: That seems inconsequential as soon as I start telling you about it, but at the time felt like we were about to break up.

Laura: Then I got sad about that and then immediately cheered up.

Laura: Okay, there we go.

Laura: So enjoy the episode.

Laura: We're back to plant biology today, aren't we?

Ron: Ronnie's island fluent.

Ron: Transpiration.

Laura: Transpiration.

Laura: Enjoy.

Ron: That was a bad physics topic, but it's over now.

Ron: There's always more.

Laura: Don't worry about physics now, Ron.

Laura: It's biology today.

Laura: Is it?

Laura: Nice, biology.

Ron: We're carrying on with plants.

Laura: What are we doing plants.

Laura: That's fun.

Ron: Remember?

Laura: No.

Ron: Do you remember talking about leaves?

Laura: Oh, yeah.

Laura: Waxy leaves.

Ron: Waxy cuticles on the leaves.

Laura: Today the section StormAt.

Ron: Stormata.

Ron: Today the section that we're doing is called the Plant Organ System.

Laura: Brilliant.

Ron: So, Laura, just a couple of recaps.

Laura: An organ.

Laura: I was imagining like a Venus flytrap playing an organ.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Luckily I'm quite a switched on guy, so I managed to get it switched on guy.

Laura: Here's a switched on guy.

Laura: Do you want a switched on guy?

Laura: Tough.

Laura: He's already with Goff.

Laura: Another podcast unit.

Ron: Next, education.

Ron: The music.

Laura: Oh, let's do a musical episode one day.

Ron: I could teach you music.

Laura: I already know music.

Laura: Listen to me.

Ron: There is clap a beat.

Ron: Clap a four four B for the listener.

Ron: This chair is so loud.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: I don't know why you always use that chair.

Ron: Because I can't be bothered to get another one.

Laura: Why did you just always have a nice, good chair?

Ron: Because the other ones are low.

Ron: They're very low.

Laura: But you work from home every day.

Laura: Invest in yourself.

Laura: Get yourself a nice comfy chair.

Ron: This chair is comfy.

Ron: It's just loud.

Ron: It's not that comfy.

Ron: It looks nice, though.

Ron: My skin.

Laura: I've got a lovely comfy chair.

Laura: Very quiet.

Ron: Isn't that my chair?

Ron: No, tom uses my chair.

Laura: Tom's got a white chair.

Ron: What happened to the chair I gave you?

Laura: What chair?

Ron: I gave you a chair.

Ron: I gave you an office chair.

Laura: Oh, is it that one over there?

Ron: Can't see anything but the wall.

Ron: Keep going.

Ron: Maybe go the other way because it seems like it's more than 180 degrees.

Ron: Or is it under all of that crap?

Laura: It's behind the poofy thing in front of the shelves.

Ron: It's so hard to tell on this screen from that distance, to be honest.

Laura: We're what kind of chair did you give me?

Ron: It was an office chair.

Laura: Black one?

Laura: Yeah, I think it's that one.

Ron: I thought you couldn't get it up into your office.

Ron: That's why Tom ended up using him for a bit.

Laura: I don't know.

Laura: And this isn't interesting content.

Laura: I bought myself this lovely chair off Viking Direct and it's comfy and I feel like an executive when I sit in it.

Ron: That's nice.

Ron: Right, let's get into it.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Plant organ system.

Ron: We're just going to do a couple of recaps, make sure we're all on the same leaf.

Ron: Nothing for that.

Ron: What's an organ?

Ron: Laura?

Laura: An organ is a I know this.

Laura: An organ is a collection of tissues.

Ron: Ding.

Ron: Nice.

Ron: Maybe just run me through the hierarchy.

Laura: A cell makes a tissue.

Laura: A tissue makes an organ.

Laura: An organ makes an organism.

Laura: It's up to the organism.

Laura: If they want an o*****, that's a slightly different thing.

Ron: So close.

Ron: You missed our organ system.

Ron: But I liked it a lot.

Ron: Not going to detract from it.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: Brilliant.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: What's a plant?

Laura: A plant is a hay.

Laura: You know it when you see it.

Laura: A plant is an alive thing that needs.

Ron: No.

Laura: What do you mean, no?

Ron: Not really.

Laura: Plants are alive.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Very little taxonomy is done by the needs and desires of the animals that it took.

Laura: What do you mean?

Ron: Like a squirrel is not defined by its lust for nuts.

Laura: Lust for nut.

Laura: No, wait, yeah, but you know, that that's just my language.

Laura: When I say, like, how it likes or needs, a scientist would say it.

Ron: Requires okay, you finish the sentence and then I'll shoot you down.

Laura: Energy from the sun.

Laura: Feasts off energy from the sun.

Laura: Vitamin D photosynthesis.

Ron: All right, I'll give you that one, actually.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: And it has cell walls.

Ron: Am I going to get a different chair?

Laura: You do you, buddy, you have a thing or what?

Laura: Cell walls?

Ron: Yes.

Ron: I don't have bluetooth headphones.

Laura: Oh, that just nasty.

Ron: You're nasty.

Laura: I wish this was a live episode, because then I'd get listeners to whisper me answers now.

Laura: Hey, guys, I've written down last time.

Laura: I did have organ system in my little thingy last time.

Laura: Plants.

Laura: Energy from sun.

Laura: Chloroplasts.

Laura: Maybe he wants me to say chloroplasts.

Laura: Cheque that one out with him.

Laura: The thing about Ron's face is it's always worried.

Ron: I really need to sweep under this desk.

Ron: It's gross.

Ron: Look at this guff I just picked up on.

Laura: Oh, that knocky hair mainly.

Ron: Yes.

Laura: She's the worst.

Ron: She's a shadow.

Laura: Hey.

Laura: Chloroplasts and photosynthesis.

Ron: Chloroplasts do photosynthesis.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: And the cell wall.

Ron: That was all I wanted you to say, grand.

Ron: Well done, Laura.

Laura: Yeah, well done.

Laura: The Big Book of Learning.

Laura: So full of brilliant ideas.

Ron: She's making a s*** book of science.

Laura: I don't think it's a s*** book if it's working.

Ron: I think it's a s*** book if no other human being in the world could pick it up and use it.

Laura: Or I'll rewrite it for the masses.

Laura: This is just the first draught.

Ron: Is that going to be book number three?

Ron: Cloth actually pivot the ship book allure.

Laura: Somebody does want me to write a memoir, but I don't think I've really done anything.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Have they met you?

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: What's it going to be?

Laura: You can't sing in a memoir.

Ron: Then I met a pig in minecraft.

Laura: Day two worried.

Laura: Day three, did some more worrying.

Ron: Day three, worried with pig in minecraft.

Laura: Day four, discover the podcast blocked out the worries.

Laura: Day five oh, no, I've already listened to all of that.

Laura: It's time to worry again.

Ron: Day six, watch the same show, because that was the last time I was not worried.

Laura: Yeah, it's good times.

Ron: Xylem.

Laura: Xylem and flowham.

Ron: Remember which ones the Xylem was?

Laura: I didn't try and do this without.

Ron: Looking back, because that's not remembering.

Laura: I've told you before and I'll tell you again, I shouldn't be remembering.

Laura: Xylem, I think, is the one that goes one way.

Laura: Xylem takes NRG chemical.

Ron: Chlorophyll don't just say things.

Ron: Does energy only need to go one way in a plant.

Laura: No, but the other one takes it both ways.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Your point being.

Laura: What'S it taken then?

Ron: You own plants.

Ron: What's the one thing you give them?

Laura: I thought the flow did the water.

Laura: The water goes up.

Ron: No, Xylem does water.

Ron: The water goes up.

Laura: How can I remember that?

Laura: A Xylophone is fun and so is a water slide.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: The problem with my shipBOOK of Science is that there's a lot of crossover that's on a lot of the same pages.

Ron: Yeah, we do do a lot of doubling back, kind of the book equivalent of reality TV with Last Time.

Laura: Which I always skip that bit on reality TV because I just remember it, but.

Ron: I guess often not listening when I recap things as well, which is kind of the same.

Laura: I'm always listening to you, Ron.

Laura: It's just I don't know how to describe it.

Laura: It's like if you don't read sheet music, when you listen to music, you're just hearing it.

Laura: You're not imagining the sheet music to go along with it.

Laura: And sometimes listening to you talk about sciences like that, because I can hear that you're talking.

Laura: You've got a nice voice, I like you, but what you're saying is just gibberish.

Ron: No, but that's where I get frustrated, because you're not actually a swamp brain.

Ron: What happens is there's like a switch in your head where you go, this is science, so I'm going to not take it in under the assumption I won't get it.

Laura: No, I don't think I do do that.

Laura: I think sometimes if I'm going to understand it, I've got to understand it.

Laura: And then there's too much stuff around everything.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: If you have to know all of it for any of it to be logical, you can't understand it in isolation.

Ron: This is why I could not answer when you asked me what was a science thing you could learn in a month.

Laura: Yeah, I'll have recorded it by now, but basically I'm going to be on Celebrity Mastermind.

Laura: And they were like, oh, so maybe you could do a science thing as your specialist subject.

Laura: And I was like, yeah, I've got one month to do The Cramming, and I've already been doing this podcast for like, five months.

Laura: What could I learn in a month?

Laura: So we didn't go with science in the end.

Ron: What did you go with?

Laura: History of alternative comedy.

Ron: You should have done Glass, right?

Ron: Xylem.

Ron: We were trying to come up with a way that you could remember Xylem as fun.

Laura: A Xylem phone is fun and so is a water slide.

Ron: What about alphabet?

Ron: It goes W.

Ron: Xyzelum starts with an X and A-Y-W is for water.

Laura: W XY z no, Xylem phone is fun and so is a water slice.

Ron: Okay, so what we're going to be talking about, basically, is how these things are adapted to carry out their function.

Ron: So what are some ways that you either know or imagine a cell could adapt itself to be good at being a water slide.

Laura: It's made of lignin, which is a watertight thing around the edge so no water gets away.

Ron: Have you googled this?

Laura: No, we did this last time.

Laura: I have learned it.

Ron: Wow.

Ron: Well done.

Ron: Yes, that is true.

Ron: That's one of them.

Ron: So the walls are strengthened by substance called lignin.

Ron: Like you say, this is waterproof.

Ron: It strengthens the plant, but also makes the xylem waterproof.

Ron: Now, this process, the process where the xylem cell goes through, like, hollows itself out and coats itself in lignin.

Ron: This is called lignification.

Ron: lignified cells are what we call wood.

Ron: And for no specific reason at all, I'm just going to tell you that the melting temperature of lignin is 170 degrees.

Laura: I think you want me to write that down?

Laura: No, wait, you're telling me that wood melts?

Ron: I'm not saying anything.

Ron: I'm not weighing in on that debate again.

Ron: I'm just saying that we call lignified cells wood, and lignin melts at like, 170 degrees.

Laura: Ronnie, Honks, you f****** genius.

Laura: You've cracked it.

Laura: Now I believe you.

Laura: Wood can melt.

Ron: Grand.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: What do you think from the last time?

Ron: The the other adaptation that they've done.

Laura: Is they had some kind of thing where they had like a perforation between the cells.

Ron: No, that's the other one.

Ron: Like the opposite of that.

Ron: They don't have cell in, so that the water can they're just tubes.

Ron: They're just tubes?

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: And xylem are dead.

Ron: They're not alive.

Ron: They're cells that have sort of sacrificed themselves to become tubes.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: The cells are dead and they've made themselves into tubes.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: Yeah, I remember this.

Laura: Is this the recap?

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: No, this is the lesson.

Laura: Okay, cool.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Okay, so that's we're just going to talk about sellout adaptations.

Ron: We get there.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: Now we're going to think about floom.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: We remember what they're for.

Laura: Floom is for moving energy from the leaves where it's been created down into the tubers or the roots or the storage, or if it's needed back up and around the plant to be used in the organs.

Ron: Well, exactly.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: Well done.

Ron: And you know how that energy is transported?

Laura: No.

Ron: In the form of sugar.

Laura: Sugar?

Laura: Yes.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: Yes.

Ron: Sugar is essentially the endpoint of photosynthesis that makes glucose.

Ron: What we all know and love.

Ron: The more sun, the sweeter things are.

Ron: I was recently in the wine producing region of Austria, the Vashao, where they were telling us about the wine.

Ron: And the vineyards on one side of the valley produce a much sweeter wine than the vineyards on the other side of the valley because they get more sunlight.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Delicious.

Laura: My homemade tomatoes, they are really sweet because they're slow grown at home in the sun, not like force grown in a hot.

Ron: Exactly.

Ron: So the process of moving the sugar up and down, that's called translocation.

Laura: Translocation.

Laura: I made the dog bark.

Ron: She hates vampires.

Ron: She probably no, there's a vampire.

Ron: So transportation is an active process.

Ron: What does this mean?

Laura: That means the plant is using energy to make it happen.

Ron: Absolutely.

Ron: Can you infer a difference between Xylem and flowum based off that fact?

Laura: Flowum is a passive process.

Ron: Don't just say things.

Laura: I didn't.

Laura: That was a genuine inference.

Ron: Oh.

Ron: But we're talking about flow and I just said it was active.

Laura: Oh, Xylem is passive, then.

Ron: Xylem is passive, yes.

Ron: But another difference between the cells themselves, not necessarily what they do.

Ron: If one is a passive process and it's dead.

Laura: So that cells in flow are alive.

Ron: Exactly, yes.

Ron: So they are not just tubes, basically, as such, these are the ones that have, like you said, the sort of the sivi plates in between them.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Flow actually made out of two different types of cells.

Laura: And they are a bitter war with one another.

Laura: Two cells.

Laura: Both are like indignity Shakespeare.

Laura: The internet broke up so badly, she said that shankspeare transmitter.

Ron: So the one is called sieve tubes.

Laura: Sieve tubes?

Ron: Sieve tubes.

Ron: Sieve.

Laura: Like a sieve in my kitchen.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: Sieve tubes specialised.

Laura: That sounds very Sci-Fi, doesn't it?

Laura: There's this really great series of books by Becky Chambers, record of a SpaceBorn Few, and I can't remember what the other ones are, and it's some of the only space stuff that doesn't freak me out, but it's lovely.

Laura: And the technology in that, that sounds like it could be one of those sip tubes.

Laura: The sip tubes were how we got the globular out of the walls of the chip and turned it into food that the humans could eat.

Ron: These sound like weird books.

Laura: They're great books.

Laura: I tell you what, they're grateful, Ron.

Laura: There's not much plot.

Laura: It's 98% world building.

Laura: I am here for that.

Laura: I know that most people love plot.

Laura: I take it or leave it.

Laura: I just like living with some nice people for a while.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: I really enjoy the world building things.

Ron: That's why I really like Philip Kdick's books.

Ron: Philip Kdick sip tubes specialised for transport.

Laura: Last night I saw somebody in town dressed up as a SIM.

Ron: It was in there.

Ron: They had a little crystal floating above there.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: All right.

Ron: So, yeah, they're specialised for transport.

Laura: That's going to be one of those moments that when I'm editing it back, I just shake my head at myself.

Laura: I was listening to an earlier episode this week for editing it, and you finish a long conversation about something and then I just go, do you prefer the name Simon or Simulation for f******?

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Listening to it back in the edit, I was like, I can't even remember how I got there, what was happening.

Laura: God, you don't stand a chance against the King of Thieves with that kind of a brain.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Sometimes I feel like I'm not being yes.

Ron: Andy enough.

Ron: But then it's just like, what the f*** am I supposed to do with some of these dirtballs that are thrown at me?

Laura: It makes me wonder if I was listening to it, if I'd believe that none of its prep is it like our like that we don't sit down and go, okay, so we're doing this subject and then we'll turn that into that tangent and that into that tangent because I think why would you just say tonight, Simon?

Ron: But I I don't know.

Ron: I I don't think you could ever plan that.

Ron: So actually we're going to talk about resuscitation for about 45 minutes and then what I think would be a banging segue into the next segment is if you could ask me if how I feel about the name Simon.

Ron: Oh, because someone in the resuscitation bit is called Simon.

Ron: No, just plugged out nowhere a bit weird.

Ron: If we just ask how you feel about Simon, maybe compare it to something else.

Ron: Dying not a person's name that I've ever heard.

Laura: Yeah, I did see someone dressed as a SIM, though, although she was wearing like, brown dungarees.

Ron: Simon.

Ron: Simeon Sims.

Ron: There's something there.

Laura: There's something wrong in my coding.

Laura: Sieve tubes.

Laura: I think it's sieve.

Laura: Sieve and SIM.

Laura: That's similar.

Laura: Sivola.

Ron: Now, I've got to finish this sentence.

Ron: They're specialised for transport.

Ron: They have no nuclei.

Ron: They are very tuby.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: They have the perforated end.

Ron: So it's cytoplasm in one cell, connects into the next cell.

Ron: You remember what cytoplasm is?

Laura: It's the goop.

Ron: Yes, it's the gooey mill year that everything in a cell happens in.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: The sucrose, the sugar and the amino acids are translocated through the cytoplasm of the sieve tubes.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: Yep.

Laura: Travels through the goop.

Ron: Now, the other cells are called companion cells because they kind of latch onto the side of the sieve tubes.

Laura: Like little guide dogs.

Ron: A bit.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: They.

Laura: Are a whole lot of fun prizes to be won.

Laura: Use your body and your brain if you want to play the game.

Ron: Because the transportation requires location, requires energy.

Ron: They attach to the sieve tube and they provide this energy.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Like a little battery pack, a little robot guide dog.

Laura: Meet more.

Laura: I am your companion.

Laura: So here, have a biscuit.

Laura: Let's go.

Laura: I will guide the way and feed you.

Ron: What kind of robot guide dog just hangs out with a living tube?

Laura: Yeah, it's not a great job.

Laura: But then you hear.

Ron: Time to be real.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: That's flowing.

Laura: What do you mean, time to be real?

Laura: Time to be real.

Laura: Oh, that weird.

Ron: App that with it.

Laura: Grandma, I don't want to do be real.

Laura: Reality is horrible.

Laura: That's why we invented Instagram.

Ron: I do always take a be real and just be like, god, there's a reason I don't take pictures of my face.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: I don't understand the point of be real.

Ron: It stops dooms growing.

Laura: But then just don't have an app.

Ron: Yeah, but like, you know, you want to do that.

Ron: You want to see what your friends are up to, fine.

Ron: But it's just not endless like Twitter or Instagram or something is.

Ron: You get your ones for the day and then you stop and then you don't look at it anymore.

Laura: Then what do you do all day?

Ron: Well, you go on one of the apps that you can do.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Be real.

Laura: Only works if it's your only app.

Ron: Yeah, 100%.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Cool.

Ron: That's flow.

Ron: Any cues?

Laura: Are the companion cells very small?

Ron: I did have a picture.

Laura: And wait, are the sieve tubes moving?

Ron: No.

Ron: Why would they be?

Laura: So they're not like guide dogs.

Laura: They are just battery packs.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Don't put the guide dog thing on me, though.

Laura: I just suggest that they're batteries, not guide dogs, because the cells are staying still.

Laura: They're tubes or vending machines.

Laura: They are literally like a tube, like the underground.

Laura: They're little vending machines.

Laura: The schloop schloop have some energy.

Laura: Run the power.

Laura: The third rail.

Ron: Yes, Laura.

Laura: I was on the tube last night and there's this one station, I think it's embankment and there's a little kiosk inside the station.

Laura: Like a guy sells crisps and drinks and stuff.

Laura: And I was just thinking that is like I want Pixar to make a short about working in that tiny little box kiosk inside a tube station.

Ron: Why?

Laura: It's just a cool little slice of life.

Ron: Yeah, but he sees some people, a.

Laura: Woman with a tie on underground all day.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Mad things.

Laura: Do you think he like sees the same people all day and makes up little stories about them in his head?

Laura: I would.

Ron: Maybe he just sees faceless drones just.

Laura: Be wheeling each other.

Ron: Just sent you a picture.

Laura: I wonder if he looks at them and he's like, are you a Simon or assuming what are you sending me a picture of?

Laura: They sent me a lot of pictures this morning.

Laura: We've got to do a picture bit in a minute.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: If you could cheque out figgie.

Laura: Figgy.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: So this looks a lot like the sugar canes on minecraft.

Laura: If you've played that, it's sort of there's long green tubes and then they've got these like, sieve plates and there's a connection to cytoplasm and then it shows some companion cells which are like little runner beans up the side of the flowum.

Ron: Well, they're part of the flowum.

Laura: Yeah, I know.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: That's flowing.

Ron: Okay, cool beans.

Ron: Right.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: The next one that we're going to learn about is a new type of cell that you've not heard of before but should make a lot of sense.

Ron: Put your phone down.

Laura: I'm looking at the WhatsApp web like you told me to.

Ron: Oh, yeah.

Ron: So you could go to a fig A.

Laura: Fig a is a golden key with a small blue dot in the top left.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: So that is a root hair cell.

Laura: A root hair cell?

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: It may on a root or the root of a hair.

Ron: We're talking about plants.

Laura: So a hair on a root.

Ron: Yes.

Laura: Do you remember in Artemis Fowl commander root?

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: And Mulch diggings, he could pull his hair out and put it in a lock and it became the key shape.

Laura: Cool.

Ron: Good books.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: What about the butler?

Laura: Butler?

Ron: Butler, yeah.

Ron: Butler.

Laura: Eurasian.

Laura: That was the first time I ever heard the word Eurasian.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: It's very vague.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: I never watched the film in the end.

Laura: Did you?

Ron: No.

Ron: Look.

Ron: Dog s***.

Laura: Yeah, I agree.

Ron: Quite.

Ron: Enjoy the amount of media I have for Artemis fault, to be honest.

Ron: Laura, I don't need a film.

Ron: Right.

Ron: What are roots for, Laura?

Laura: Keeping the plants steady and sucking up water.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: And other minerals and stuff from the soil.

Ron: But yeah, essentially gathering s*** up from the soil that they're perched in.

Ron: That makes the roots an.

Laura: Organ system.

Laura: Organ, probably.

Ron: But the fact that they need to suck up water makes them an thing bag.

Laura: Active.

Laura: Active.

Ron: Back a bit.

Ron: Think about the heart.

Ron: No, think about the lungs and the kidneys.

Laura: Exchange surface makes them an exchange.

Laura: Actually, I would like to call a second look then, at whether that was don't just say stuff relevant or not, because I think I was saying applicable things there.

Ron: Organ.

Ron: Yeah, absolutely.

Ron: What was going to be the end of active?

Laura: It wasn't passive.

Laura: It makes them an active no, well, I hadn't finished and then you said that that's why I'm saying what was going to be the end.

Laura: An active process.

Ron: It makes the roots an active process.

Laura: Yeah, they are an active thing.

Ron: I know that we have a semi antagonistic relationship with this podcast, but sometimes I shoot you down for your own good.

Laura: No, because a flowum is an active process and a xylem is a passive process.

Ron: No, translocation is an active process.

Ron: Flow is the tube where it happens.

Laura: Yeah, but do you know what I mean?

Ron: Yeah, I know what you mean, but that's like saying your legs are an active process.

Ron: They're not walking and running is.

Laura: Yeah, but I just don't think that that was a don't just say stuff.

Ron: Okay, I'm sorry.

Ron: I'll come up with a medium just stop.

Laura: Yeah, that's better.

Ron: So they're an exchange surface.

Ron: So an exchange surface, to be very.

Laura: Efficient, needs a large surface area.

Ron: Exactly.

Ron: So the roots are covered in these little nosy bonky.

Laura: Oh, kind of like Villai, but for roots.

Ron: Exactly like Villai.

Ron: Yeah, to maximise the surface area.

Ron: So the plants absorb the water from the soil biosmosis.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Yes.

Ron: They absorb mineral ions by active transport.

Laura: Because they're an active process.

Ron: Active stuff against the concentration gradient.

Laura: Okay, no, hang on.

Laura: I wasn't writing down as being smug.

Laura: They absorb water via obsermosis.

Ron: Indeed.

Laura: Via ours.

Laura: Mosis.

Laura: They absorb minerals via an active process.

Ron: Why would they need to do it?

Laura: They're recruiting.

Laura: They're out recruitment via an active transport because they're heavier.

Laura: No, because there's no such thing as mineral osmosis.

Laura: No, don't get entropy in minerals.

Ron: What a world we'd live in.

Ron: If minerals were something that just didn't have to obey a fundamental law of.

Laura: Physics no, people don't do it.

Ron: What do you mean?

Laura: We don't just get in a room and mill about evenly.

Laura: We go where there's good stuff.

Laura: A mineral is a life.

Laura: No.

Ron: Stop.

Laura: What's a mineral?

Laura: Just an atom of something.

Laura: A bit of phosphorus.

Laura: Is that a mineral?

Ron: Stop.

Ron: Not working.

Laura: What's a mineral?

Ron: Mineral is basically like ions.

Ron: They're dissolved in the water.

Ron: They make up stone and stuff like calcium carbonate or something like that.

Laura: Oh, yeah.

Laura: Sand.

Ron: Oh, that was silicon dioxide.

Laura: No, actually, a tropical sand is calcium carbonate.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Okay, stop.

Ron: So the reason why they have to do virtue transport is because the minerals, they have to take up a concentration gradient.

Ron: There are more minerals in the plant than there are out the plant.

Laura: What?

Laura: I thought that's what a concentration gradient was.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: And if you want to do something upper concentration gradient, you have to put energy in.

Laura: There are more minerals in the plant than outside the plant.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: So to get more minerals in the plant, you have to suck them up.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: So the root hair cells are adapted for their job by having the large surface area.

Ron: That's why they've got that little hair coming out of them.

Ron: That increases the surface area.

Ron: And they have lots of these proteins on the surface to increase the rate of absorption.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: They also have lots of mitochondria because they need to release the energy from the sugar so that they can do the active transport.

Laura: Oh, God.

Laura: What's mitochondria again?

Ron: One you know this come on.

Ron: It was episode one.

Laura: That is a long time ago.

Ron: Yeah, we've been doing this like, six months now.

Laura: Oh, yeah.

Laura: What's a mitochondria?

Ron: They make ATP.

Ron: They p.

Ron: They contain lots of mitochondria which release energy.

Ron: I said that for the actors.

Laura: Oh, my God.

Laura: Ron.

Laura: I couldn't have been expected to remember ATP.

Ron: No, but I just said that in the sentence where you said, what's mitochondria?

Ron: I think what happened is I said they have lots of mitochondria.

Ron: Your brain kind of paused there.

Ron: The absorbed water.

Laura: No, hang on.

Laura: I'm not down with this.

Ron: They have mitochondria to make the energy to pump the ion.

Laura: You stop.

Laura: Wait.

Laura: They're pulling all the stuff out of the soil.

Laura: They have lots of mitochondria to make ATP out of the sugar that's just being brought to them.

Laura: They're not making any sugar anywhere.

Laura: Sugar is being brought.

Laura: Viral transport system and the mitochondria turning it into ATP.

Laura: Then they've got the energy right there and then to pull the minerals out the soil.

Laura: I'm with you.

Ron: Do you know any of the things that water does in a plant?

Laura: Gives it structure, leaves it's dry, gets floppy?

Ron: Because literally.

Ron: They use kind of the pressure of the water inside them to keep themselves turgid.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: There's three other things that I'm looking for.

Laura: Keeps it cool.

Ron: Yeah, cools it down.

Ron: Because the water evaporates out of the leaves.

Ron: And as we've just done in physics, evaporation takes up a lot of energy.

Ron: Same reason why we sweat, because it takes a lot of energy for your sweat to evaporate.

Ron: The specific latent heat energy is lost.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Did you hear that?

Laura: So your tummy.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: My little pumpkin just made that noise.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Have you had lunch?

Ron: I did.

Ron: You had lentil falafels and flatbreads.

Laura: That sounds nice.

Ron: Lentil falafels are actually a bit of a game changer, I would say better than chickpea.

Laura: Whoa.

Laura: I can't bring myself to mate falafel after the most disgusting meal I ever made for Beckham will at New Year.

Laura: Horrible.

Ron: Do you want me to tell you?

Laura: Is there any sort of flushing system?

Laura: Is there a waste product that needs to be removed?

Ron: No, but it is involved in the transport of these minerals because they dissolve in the water.

Laura: Okay, so like mineral transport system.

Laura: Oh, let your love blow.

Laura: Lack of money.

Ron: Nice.

Ron: And then the last one is it's a reactant in photosynthesis.

Ron: So it uses water in that process.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: Like when you're getting a photo developed.

Ron: Sure.

Ron: How are we doing for time?

Laura: We have been recording for 39 minutes, probably.

Ron: All right, we'll do this bit.

Ron: We'll do this bit.

Ron: We're now going to talk about transpiration.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: Transpiration is essentially the loss of water through the leaves at the top of the plant.

Ron: I think we talked about this a bit last time when we were talking about plants.

Ron: Transpiration is kind of like the sucking mechanism of water through the plant because it has to get used up at the top and then that pulls water up the plant.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Yes.

Ron: You know what capillary action is?

Laura: Capillaries are those tiny little veins.

Ron: Capillary just means, like, really thin tube.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Living space.

Ron: Have you ever noticed maybe like, if you have a cold glass and there's like some water on the outside of it condensation.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: It's a steam and hot day.

Ron: And then when that water, like, runs down and kind of hits see, hits.

Laura: The bottom on a sunflower nearby.

Laura: That's how about that squirrel that was stealing my sunflowers?

Ron: No.

Laura: Right.

Laura: You know, squirrels love seeds.

Laura: Love to nut.

Ron: Next time.

Laura: No, we got time.

Laura: No, this squirrel, my garden, right, was coming into my garden, climbing up the sunflowers and gnawing the whole flower off the top of its stem and then running away with it.

Ron: Mammals.

Ron: Be smart, man.

Laura: You're very far away from your microphone.

Ron: Yeah, I'm relaxing now.

Ron: I've got out of teaching, though.

Laura: No, come back.

Laura: That was it.

Ron: I was on the fence as to whether we were going to do this bit anyway.

Ron: We'll do transpiration next time when we do cancer and infectious diseases.

Laura: Good.

Laura: Transpiration.

Laura: I'm learning, Ron.

Laura: I've made so many notes.

Ron: All right, I'm going to sit back but talk a bit louder.

Laura: No, it's bad.

Laura: And also I can't see you.

Ron: Right.

Ron: Water running down the outside of a glass because of condensation.

Ron: Have you ever noticed that when it hits the bottom and kind of gets in the crack, it gets kind of sucked all around.

Ron: And that's how you get rings of water underneath the glass.

Ron: So that's basically a capillary action.

Ron: When you get down into that kind of small space, the surface tension of the water sort of ends up moving it inherently.

Laura: Right, okay.

Laura: Love that.

Ron: So the xylem inside plant works as a little capillary.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: The water will just move up, but you need to get rid of the water at the top to keep sucking it.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Keep sucking it, sucking it, sucking it.

Laura: Suck them and see fishman's friend.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Does that make sense?

Laura: No, but I will say it's like a straw.

Laura: I fell over.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: This is a difficult, impossible situation now, Ron, because I will learn that water Flums up the xylem.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: I do not understand what surface tension is.

Laura: I don't understand why it does it.

Laura: I don't understand.

Laura: I never really thought about why the glass was doing that before with condensation on the outside.

Laura: So I do not understand why, but I understand it's happening.

Ron: Surface tension base I think exists I think because of the intermolecular forces between the water molecules.

Ron: So essentially you have them kind of clinging on to each other through these forces.

Ron: So it's just like a straw.

Ron: Instead of someone sucking at one end, you've got transpiration losing water out the top.

Ron: You've got the surface tension.

Ron: All of the water is kind of pulling itself up in a chain and you've got water coming in through the roofs.

Laura: Yes.

Laura: I believe you.

Laura: That's in the business now.

Ron: All right.

Laura: I can't do any more than that there because then you know what, molecules kissing and I was like, why are they doing that?

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: I think the listeners will get it, though.

Ron: So we're going to move on.

Laura: I got it.

Laura: Oh, my God.

Laura: Celebrate me.

Ron: We have four things we're going to discuss how these change in factors increase or decrease the rate of transpiration.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: So how do you think an increase in temperature would affect transpiration?

Laura: I think it would increase it because you'd be getting more suckoff at the top.

Ron: Exactly.

Ron: More water molecules will evaporate.

Ron: Anything else you can think?

Laura: The water has more energy and so moves quicker.

Ron: Exactly.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: The rate of diffusion of the water molecules is quicker.

Ron: What about humidity?

Laura: I don't really know what humidity is.

Laura: I think that will not affect it.

Ron: Why?

Laura: Because if there's water in the air, the water in the plant isn't going to get sucked off as much.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: So then you're slowing down all the traffic through the plant.

Ron: So is that not affecting it?

Laura: Well, it depends what the basic rate of transpiration is, doesn't it?

Ron: No.

Laura: You could say it slows it down, but then you need to know what the base rate is.

Ron: Why would you need to know what the base rate is?

Ron: Sorry, that's my point.

Ron: My throat.

Laura: How do you know if it's slowing down or speeding up?

Laura: Well, what's it meant to be at is normal, whatever, just a dry day at 20 degrees.

Ron: But no, no, it's not saying humidity isn't something that you either have or you don't.

Ron: We're saying if you increase the humidity, what happens to transpiration?

Laura: Oh, slow it down.

Ron: Yes, exactly.

Ron: Why?

Laura: Because, like I said, there's wet outside, so you don't need any out of the plant.

Ron: Exactly.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Do you want to put that in sort of sciencey terms?

Laura: Entropy?

Ron: The concentration gradient, isn't it?

Ron: The concentration gradient from the leaf to the air is less steep because there's more water in the air.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: What about air movement?

Ron: Wind over the plant.

Laura: Decrease because it would be reducing the amount of energy on the surface of the leaf and.

Ron: Therefore reducing the why would it be reducing the energy?

Laura: Because that's what air motion across does.

Laura: That's why you have wind chill factor.

Ron: No.

Ron: Think about concentration gradients.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: How would air movement affect the concentration gradient?

Laura: Let's stir it up.

Ron: I've got a plant.

Ron: This is a leaf, right?

Ron: Pushing water out of the bottom of it.

Ron: It's very still.

Ron: The water is just going to go like this and it's going to remain there.

Laura: Why?

Ron: Because the air is very still.

Laura: It's going to fall.

Ron: No, it's not.

Ron: It's water vapour.

Ron: It's a gas.

Ron: Okay, so there's lots of water here.

Ron: What's this doing to the concentration gradient?

Ron: Leaf to air.

Laura: Okay, so in that case, then it's unstepening the concentration gradient.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Because there's no air movement.

Ron: Whereas if I've got a through breeze.

Laura: All that, if it's dry day, what if it's very humid?

Ron: And even if it's very humid, increased air movement is still going to do the same thing.

Laura: Why?

Laura: Because it would be moving new water into the park, but there's still going.

Ron: To be water pushing out the leaf, so it's still going to be higher here than it is over there where there's no leaf.

Laura: Okay, if you say so.

Ron: I'll answer my own question.

Ron: It increases the rate of transpiration.

Ron: What about light intensity?

Laura: Increases.

Ron: Why?

Laura: More photosynthesis.

Laura: So more water being used up in the leaf, so more water needed to be pulled up.

Ron: Bang, bang, bang.

Ron: Done.

Ron: Nice.

Ron: That was my Tumpkin again.

Laura: I don't think your Tumpkin likes lentila for as much as you do.

Laura: Oh, my God.

Laura: Two full pages of notes there, Ron.

Ron: I feel like you got that.

Ron: That felt like the swamp is becoming a marsh.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: All right, let's cheque it out.

Laura: Next after sting.

Laura: Right, quizzing time.

Laura: Hi.

Laura: Let's do a quiz.

Ron: Hello.

Laura: Hi.

Ron: Quiz it up.

Ron: Can you remember what we were studying?

Laura: Don't you know?

Laura: Quiz it up.

Laura: You got to quiz it up.

Laura: We were studying Plant South Bees, the.

Ron: Only podcast that has the host burp.

Ron: You didn't even blink then.

Ron: You're just like, all right, into the quiz.

Laura: Because you were talking, so I knew I could just cut my burp out.

Ron: You think everyone is burping.

Laura: Yeah, they just cut them out.

Laura: I record us on two separate audio files, so if one's talking, the other can burp away.

Laura: I just cut it.

Laura: It's only if you burp mid word, and then we need that, which we often do.

Laura: I think people like it.

Laura: A lot of the reviews on the old Apple podcast mention how much the burping makes them listen more.

Ron: All right, okay.

Ron: Can you remember what we were seeing, though?

Laura: Yeah, plant cells.

Laura: Plant biology.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: So we have for this quiz 123-4567 812 points available.

Ron: Laura, do you like twelve?

Laura: Do I like twelve?

Laura: Yeah, I think twelve is a nice number.

Laura: I love that.

Laura: It divides by three and four and two and six.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: There's just three and four and next to each other.

Laura: So it's always nice when a number is, like, next to each other's.

Ron: Numbers remembers three, fours and four.

Ron: Threes.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Isn't that what that means, though?

Ron: Yeah, it's just nice, though, isn't it?

Laura: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Laura: It's just it feels like a nice snugly buggy.

Laura: It's like the aunty of numbers.

Ron: The aunty of numbers.

Ron: What are the two?

Ron: They made me two adaptations of xylem.

Ron: Laura.

Laura: Xylem is waterproof.

Ron: That's a characteristic.

Ron: What's the adaptation that leads to?

Ron: That being the case?

Laura: It's made of lignin.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: I'll give you that.

Ron: It's lignified.

Laura: It's LIGNIFYING.

Laura: Better shape up because I need some xylem.

Laura: It's lignified.

Laura: It's got lignified cells.

Ron: And it's full of lignite.

Ron: The poison.

Ron: The poison for couscous.

Ron: Poison.

Laura: That poison.

Laura: And the other thing is that the cells in it are dead and tubular.

Laura: Yes, the cells have died and made little skull, little skeletons.

Ron: There's natural in them.

Ron: They're emptied little tubes.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Well done.

Ron: Two marks.

Ron: Okay, could you please describe to me the three marks?

Ron: The structure of flume.

Laura: Flume.

Laura: The structure stop talking about the burpees.

Laura: And then we've you just cut them, mate.

Laura: You're obsessive burps the structure of flowum.

Laura: Flowum is made up of alive cells that have a perforation in between them.

Ron: What's that called?

Laura: It's called sieve tubes.

Ron: That's not what the perforated bit between them is called, though.

Laura: Are you sure.

Ron: You get a mark for sieve tubes?

Ron: That is what those cells are called on that side.

Laura: I've just put perforation in between the cells and then I've crossed out guide Dogs of the Cell World.

Ron: Yeah, that was a tangent, wasn't it?

Laura: I don't know what the perforations are called.

Laura: Sieves.

Laura: Just sieves closer.

Laura: Sieve tubes.

Laura: Maybe they've got sieves.

Laura: Sieves out.

Ron: Word sieve don't just say stuff.

Laura: Civilians.

Ron: No.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: I don't know.

Ron: That's clear.

Laura: Okay, so they are connected and the cytoplasm crosses between the sieve tubes.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Then they have companion cells latched onto the side of the sieve tubes that are like little feeding batteries.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: All right, three marks for that as well.

Ron: Ding ding.

Laura: What were the perforations called?

Ron: Oh, sorry, yeah.

Ron: Two plates.

Ron: You're right, you didn't get that.

Ron: Sieve plates.

Laura: Sieve plates.

Laura: I haven't written that down anywhere.

Laura: I'll write that in now.

Laura: Sieve plates.

Ron: I'm increasing it to 16 marks for this quiz, by the way.

Laura: Because of my Sassy attitude.

Ron: No.

Ron: Could you name three adaptations of root hair cells?

Laura: They have a large surface area exchange surface.

Ron: Yes.

Laura: They have lots of mitochondria on the surface for making ATP.

Laura: Was the ATP four energy?

Laura: Was the energy for sucking up minerals via active process.

Ron: Active.

Laura: Active.

Laura: Active osmosis?

Ron: No.

Laura: Active process.

Laura: Active.

Laura: Active.

Laura: Active.

Laura: Active activity centre.

Laura: Active.

Ron: Active.

Laura: Active water fire.

Laura: Active process.

Ron: Active.

Laura: Active.

Laura: Active.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Active process?

Laura: Active passive process.

Laura: Active.

Ron: Active suction active transport.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: I'm sorry, but you didn't that's a phrase that we've used a lot when we talk about, like, osmosis and stuff.

Ron: You should have known that.

Ron: And you could do better than that sometimes.

Laura: I'm doing really well today, actually.

Ron: You are.

Ron: I'm complimenting you.

Laura: No, you're not.

Ron: I am.

Ron: I said that you can do better than that.

Laura: That isn't a compliment.

Ron: That is a compliment.

Laura: How's that a compliment?

Ron: You're smart, you can do better, but you haven't.

Laura: No, that isn't a compliment.

Laura: I don't I don't want you to think that if you ever look at Judas, go off into the podcast and say, you can do better than this, that isn't a compliment, okay?

Ron: That is a compliment.

Laura: You can do better.

Ron: You're smart.

Ron: You're a smart person.

Ron: You could do better than this.

Ron: I'm complimenting you.

Ron: Not on how this test has gone.

Laura: No.

Ron: Okay, right, we're going to quickfire these, okay?

Ron: I'm going to tell you a factor that affects transpiration.

Ron: You're going to tell me whether it increases transpiration or decreases it and why.

Laura: That was going to be really good until you added that.

Laura: And why?

Laura: Because I've made good notes of this.

Ron: All right?

Ron: If I increase the temperature, what happens.

Laura: To transpiration and why increase the speed of transpiration?

Ron: Ding.

Ron: And why?

Laura: So that would be because water is being evaporated out of the leaves and so they need more coming up.

Laura: And so the passive transport Suckerman Noggle.

Laura: Is going to happen faster because water is gone, so more soups in to replace it.

Ron: Still true, but and.

Laura: What do you mean, and what, there's a little bit more?

Laura: No, there isn't.

Laura: That's it.

Laura: It's increased.

Ron: The evaporation is increased.

Ron: That's it.

Ron: But think about, like, everything in the leaf is hot as well.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Oh, so it just needs more water to function?

Ron: No, let's think about the chemistry almost.

Ron: Let's think about the chemistry of it or the physics.

Ron: What happens to the internal energy?

Laura: Where did you go?

Ron: I'm still here.

Laura: Why did you just go in the dark?

Ron: I think my phone's correct.

Ron: It's very dark in here.

Ron: My face.

Laura: Why don't you turn the light on, you weirdly?

Ron: We're recording a podcast and you can't.

Laura: Have the light on.

Ron: No, it was light when I sat down.

Laura: Oh, sorry.

Ron: Hang on.

Laura: Sitting in a cave.

Laura: I wish I had someone to whisper the answers to me while he's away.

Ron: Headphones in.

Laura: I don't know what you mean.

Ron: Then what about the internal energy of the water in the leaf?

Laura: It's higher.

Ron: Yeah, all right.

Ron: I'm going to give you half a mark because you did get half.

Laura: What's that got to do with anything?

Ron: The rate of diffusion is quicker, so the water moves through quicker.

Laura: I don't think you talked about that last time.

Ron: I think I did.

Ron: And if I didn't, maybe you should have been okay with it.

Ron: Increase in humidity.

Laura: Laura that will decrease the level of transpiration.

Ron: Why?

Laura: Because there's more water in the air, so there's less great concentration gradient between the leaf and the air.

Laura: So less water is being lost out of the leaf.

Laura: So less water is needed from the stores mark.

Ron: Yes.

Laura: Wicked.

Ron: Increased air movement.

Laura: I remember this one.

Laura: This one is wrong.

Laura: But you want me to say that.

Ron: If you call this wrong, you don't get the mug.

Laura: This increases the transpiration because the air is whisking away the wet as it comes out of the leaf, leaving a dry patch of air there.

Laura: So the water leaving the leaf has a high concentration gradient and so leaf is leasing lots of water and lots of water.

Ron: Yes, which is true.

Ron: And why do you think that's not true?

Laura: Because I don't think the air coming in is dry and the air leaving is wet.

Laura: That's too convenient.

Ron: But the air leaving is wet because that wetness has come from the leaf.

Laura: Yeah, but it might be raining.

Ron: Yeah, but you're doing, like, f****** right wing argument techniques here, trying to tell.

Laura: People that I'm right wing.

Ron: I'm not.

Ron: I'm saying that you're using, like, right wing arguing techniques where you go and you say, immigration is a net good for society because people are nice and also it helps the economy as well.

Ron: And then they're like, yeah, but what if it's raining and they've all got knives?

Ron: It's not like that.

Ron: It's just not.

Ron: So why are you just picking this weird scenario where, yeah, it might not work in matt?

Laura: That's how I feel.

Laura: Ron two points.

Laura: Well done.

Ron: You can have a mark for it, but I'm not happy about it.

Ron: Increase the light intensity.

Laura: Increase in light is an increase in transpiration because the more chloroplasts activity, which is called photosynthesis, and that requires water.

Laura: And so you need more at the stores.

Ron: Nice.

Ron: Seven and a half out of eight.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Cool beans.

Ron: So you got 13 and a half out of 18.

Ron: No, that's not right.

Ron: 15 and a half out of 18.

Laura: It feels like I've got 18 out.

Ron: Of 18, but you didn't know.

Ron: So sad.

Ron: Sorry, wait, that's not right.

Ron: Was it even out of 18?

Laura: You said 16 originally.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Twelve originally.

Laura: And then you changed it to 1613.

Ron: And a half out of 16.

Ron: There we go.

Laura: 15 and a half out of 16 is not bad.

Laura: There we go.

Laura: Ron, that was plants.

Laura: Is that it for plants?

Laura: If we got more plants to do.

Ron: No, we move on to cancer.

Laura: Oh, God.

Laura: Okay, well, listen.

Laura: Hey, listeners, we love you so, so much.

Laura: We will be especially you, especially you.

Ron: Especially you listening right now.

Laura: And if you're currently nodding and just pointing to yourself a little bit with your headphones like me?

Laura: Yeah, you.

Laura: We're hiding behind that big thing over there, looking at you, making kissing noises into the frosty air.

Laura: I realise it's so weird because we are here doing an intro and outro, but we're in the past talking to you in the future, always.

Laura: As of next week, we will be back doing these the week that they go out.

Laura: So get in touch with us, say hello, let us know how your Christmases and what not went, and we will bring you all sorts of Banana brilliance.

Laura: Banana in there.

Laura: We've been recording.

Laura: Just so weird.

Laura: Anyway, we love you very much.

Laura: Leave us a review if you like us.

Laura: I mean, if you listen to this, you've got some serious psychological issues.

Laura: Yeah, but don't let that stop you from listening.

Laura: We need the downloads.

Ron: They all counts the same.

Ron: Hate.

Ron: Buy some merch if you want.

Laura: I hate hat.

Laura: We will see you next week.

Laura: We love you.

Laura: Goodbye.

Ron: Cluster Smith, put an egg in your shoe and beat it.

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