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 Laura: Hello and welcome to another episode of Lexx Education.

Laura: Woo, woo, woo.

Laura: It's the Hutch based comedy podcast.

Laura: Like me in Me, Laura Lexx squats in a hutch with her normal hutchy brother, Ron.

Ron: It's an early morning hutch record.

Laura: Is this the earliest we've recorded by far?

Laura: It's 07:40 A.m.?

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Life's horrible now.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Hutch based.

Laura: It's hutch based.

Laura: Ron's leaving today.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: I'm so sad about that.

Ron: We're not talking about it, though.

Laura: No.

Laura: Hey, listeners.

Laura: You're the highlight of the world.

Laura: How are you all?

Laura: Are you well?

Laura: Brilliant.

Ron: Giddy.

Laura: Giddy.

Laura: It's like stress.

Laura: Giddy.

Laura: That's where we are.

Ron: It's physics this week, coron yeah, it is.

Ron: What do we do?

Ron: What was this lesson about?

Laura: I don't know.

Laura: I haven't listened.

Ron: No, I didn't make good notes while I was editing it.

Laura: You never do.

Ron: I try.

Laura: Do you?

Laura: Sometimes you try.

Ron: Sometimes I try.

Laura: Sometimes I try.

Laura: No, that's the one I try to say.

Laura: I try to make some notes and a joke.

Laura: That's why I was so early.

Ron: I was asking for.

Laura: Like, implicitly.

Laura: They are asking, aren't they?

Ron: They're not necessarily for early morning hutch.

Ron: Karaoke wrong.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: It's physics.

Laura: I know at the beginning, we sort.

Ron: Of oh, I know what it's about.

Ron: Elasticity.

Laura: Elasticity.

Laura: There's no songs about elasticity.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: I mean, why would anybody spend an hour of their life trying to learn that?

Laura: It's mad.

Ron: But we did.

Laura: We did.

Laura: I don't think it went that well.

Laura: I remember us sort of discussing more like history and sociology for a while, and then we got to the physics and we were sad.

Ron: It was another three part recorder, because in the middle or maybe that's spoilers.

Ron: Let's talk about that afterwards.

Ron: What I do need to talk about, though, is that at the beginning, at the top of the podcast, we're talking about early development of civilizations, I think, and I talk about how people haven't been in Australia and New Zealand for very long, which has affected the way that their society developed.

Ron: I was getting confused.

Ron: I meant it's only New Zealand that applies to people have only been in New Zealand for, like, 1000 years, or something crazy like that.

Laura: Really?

Ron: Whereas, and this is very interesting, interesting friend of the podcast, Eve, studied Aborigine culture in some form for her masters, and I was talking to her about it and the Aborigine people were one of the first groups to leave Africa.

Laura: Really?

Ron: Actually been in Australia for longer than people have been in Europe.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: That's cool, because apparently it took us like, three tries to work our way through Europe.

Laura: Yeah, that makes sense.

Ron: It's cold and like, full of bears.

Laura: And stuff back then.

Ron: So, yeah, I'm going to talk about that.

Ron: But I'm wrong.

Ron: But I thought I'd leave it in because everyone gets stuff wrong.

Laura: All right, okay.

Laura: I just assume I'm right about what I'm talking about.

Ron: Do you?

Laura: No, never.

Laura: I think I put in a disclaimer straight away going, I don't know what I'm talking about.

Laura: This is an exchange I saw on Twitter, so I'm covered.

Laura: Oh, look at that bird trying to get in the window.

Laura: Get out of the hutchbird.

Laura: We're working.

Ron: Work hutch now.

Laura: Yeah, it's not a bird hutch anymore.

Laura: Very much enjoyed your insults this week on social media.

Laura: We were asking because you're just talking to me.

Laura: You haven't insulted me this week.

Laura: You've been aware of how delicate my situation is.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Oh, no.

Laura: The Starling is trying to get back in the nest.

Laura: But I think you've fledged now, starling, you're too big.

Laura: Go elsewhere.

Ron: The hutch is alive with nature.

Laura: This is unfocused, even for us.

Laura: Well, I think in last week's episode, I called you an absolute bandwidth as an insult.

Ron: People loved it.

Laura: People loved it.

Laura: So we've been coming up with what are your favourite non insults that you can use as an insult?

Laura: And there's been a lot of love for kitchen equipment on the socials this week, but if you've got any that are not kitchen equipment flaming spatula.

Ron: You know, I haven't seen any of this.

Laura: You out drinking.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Like a boy.

Ron: Like a boy would do.

Laura: Like a boy would do.

Laura: And you did.

Laura: So there you go.

Laura: Enjoy.

Laura: Some of us getting the world wrong, some of us getting physics wrong.

Laura: And we'll see you afterwards.

Laura: Okay, we'll go.

Laura: You'll go for Laura.

Ron: Ron.

Ron: What did you say?

Laura: I said you'll go for Laura.

Ron: Your go for Laura.

Laura: Yeah, you know, like, you can speak to me now.

Laura: Isn't that a thing?

Ron: Your go for Laura.

Laura: Go for Laura.

Ron: Yeah, that's fine, but the go is not mine.

Laura: Oh.

Ron: It's like go, go at it.

Ron: It's a race.

Ron: Go.

Ron: If you were starting a race, you wouldn't say, Your go.

Laura: Yeah, but I thought it was more like if you're on a radio comms, you'd say, yes, go for Laura.

Laura: You're go for Laura.

Ron: No, you see, that's what it's weird.

Ron: You just wouldn't say you're as far as I'm aware.

Laura: Okay, well, go for Laura.

Ron: Every single record we've done today has had a weird gibbering start.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: But maybe the middle will be very good.

Ron: I'd say the middle has been great.

Ron: I don't think we've closed any of them off particularly.

Laura: Well, look, we're not beginners or starters.

Laura: We just get into a flow in the middle and if we had a producer, they'd edit the crud off and just inject the pure, brilliantness in.

Laura: But it's not what you weirdos like, from all accounts.

Ron: No.

Ron: They want sound effects and behind the scenes.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: And if you're listening to this, thinking, God, no, I don't.

Laura: Sorry, but you need to be more vocal or just stop listening.

Laura: Just go away.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: If you're the last person to tell us something before we make a thing, you will influence it.

Ron: We do make snap decisions, very impulsive.

Laura: Based on what we think people will.

Ron: Like, we're impulsive, we are anxious, we try to please, but we don't really remember what pleased people last week.

Laura: That's I think there's also, whenever I listen back to these, I always think there's a moment in each record where you can hear one of us lose faith in the premise completely and just kind of go, oh, my God, why would anyone listen to this?

Laura: It's there in our voices.

Laura: What's your dumb cat doing now?

Ron: I just heard a bang.

Ron: I ignore it often when she makes noises like that, though, because I figure if I wasn't here, I wouldn't have heard it.

Ron: And she's not died yet, so probably fine.

Ron: So we're doing physics Today, Laura, and it's just continuing this death march through what we've been doing.

Ron: But you know what?

Ron: We're not even in down anymore, so there's not even really any bands to have around that.

Ron: F***.

Ron: It didn't take long to get to the point, did it?

Laura: At least we're done with down because honestly, Ron, it was killing me going over the same stuff again.

Laura: And as a present to you, I'm in a very calm mood and I feel pretty tired, but Zen.

Laura: So I'm going to do my best to come at this with biology energy.

Ron: Okay?

Ron: We'll see how long that lasts, but we'll give it a d*** good go.

Ron: Okay?

Laura: Okay.

Ron: So the first thing that we've got to do, we've got to finish off what we were doing last time on.

Laura: Eli oh, my God.

Laura: You just said we'd finished it.

Ron: Well, we finished down.

Ron: Like, there's no women rolling balls downhill, but we've got it.

Ron: Like I've just said before you interrupted me, the wheels are coming off the truck.

Ron: Yucky.

Laura: Now all I can see is a little tail whipping you in the face.

Laura: Hi.

Laura: Yucky.

Ron: Kiss the pop shield.

Ron: Ear purry.

Laura: Yeah, a little bit.

Ron: No.

Ron: So we're finishing off elasticity.

Laura: Elasticity.

Laura: Did we start elasticity?

Ron: Yes.

Ron: Do you want to go over it again?

Laura: No.

Laura: It's a push me pull you thing, isn't it?

Ron: What?

Laura: That was it.

Ron: Do you have the formula for elastic extension?

Laura: Elastic extension?

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: My notes is just a woman pushing a trolley.

Laura: And I've drawn all the shelves.

Ron: I can't see the shelves.

Laura: Hang on, there they are, around the corner.

Ron: Laura, you've put labels on the items?

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Crisp cereal, alajara honey.

Laura: Elasticity force measured in Newtons equals spring constant NPM Newtons per metre, probably times extension metres.

Ron: Yep.

Ron: And what's the spring constant?

Laura: How many Newtons it takes to pull it?

Laura: A metre.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Hold on.

Ron: Yeah, that is what the spring constant is.

Ron: So the spring constant essentially is just an inherent property of anything that has elastic capabilities.

Ron: Okay, so if you had a really tough spring, it's like you don't really pull it that much.

Laura: That's got high, like suspension in a car.

Laura: Those big springs, they're going to have.

Ron: A high spring constant.

Laura: Barely even springs, really.

Ron: Are they no, they're springs with high spring constants.

Laura: Yeah, I watched Piglets big movie the other day, and there's lots of spring in about in that because it gives kangaroo and Ruse origin story to the 100 acre wood.

Ron: Now that's actually very interesting with kangaroos and wallabies because they're the only things on the planet that bounce around like that.

Laura: It's really cool.

Laura: It's really fascinating.

Laura: Australia just very, very interesting.

Laura: I was reading something and forgive me, this is like I know nothing about the subject, so I literally know what I saw, but someone was being quite racist on on Twitter.

Laura: What shock and horror about Aborigines and and there's, I think, like a common I'm not sure if it's a misconception or an interesting fact or something, but they didn't have like wheeled transport, I don't think, and they're one of the only civilizations that didn't have it.

Laura: And then somebody pointed out where there aren't really pack beasts there before white settlers.

Laura: So why would you, you dumb a**, like, it's not a sign that they were stupid are stupid.

Laura: Sorry.

Laura: It's a sign that that was just not f****** useful because they didn't have a thing to pull.

Laura: It, you d***.

Laura: It you're not going to stick a kangaroo at the front, are you?

Ron: Just a note from Ron here.

Ron: What I'm saying is true of New Zealand, not of Australia.

Ron: It turns out people have been in Australia for f****** ages.

Ron: But people get things wrong sometimes.

Ron: I did a little bit of research because I wasn't quite sure.

Ron: Turns out I was wrong.

Ron: So listen to this.

Ron: Talking about New Zealand, not Australia.

Ron: Yeah, well, I mean, also with the peoples that reached Australia and like New Zealand and stuff, like, they just weren't there for very long.

Ron: The Maori peoples.

Ron: When white people arrived, they were still in the Stone Age in inverters Commas.

Ron: They just hadn't been there very long.

Ron: People had been in Africa and Europe and stuff for tens of thousands of years.

Ron: Longer than anything than there.

Laura: I don't understand what you mean.

Laura: As in where did the Maoris come from?

Ron: Well, they came from Polynesian people travelling boats and stuff and ending up on islands.

Ron: But yeah, they'd migrated there.

Laura: Yes, because they were newly there, relatively.

Laura: They hadn't been there that long.

Ron: Yeah, because if you think about how, like, if you had to walk from the middle of Africa to New Zealand, that's way further than Africa to Europe or the Middle East or something yeah.

Ron: And you have to cross big f****** oceans.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: It's going to take a lot longer.

Ron: But no, the thing with the pacbeast is there's a really famous book called Guns, Germs and Steel and it's basically about how it's like a theory called Geodeterminism and it basically talks about how the circumstances that you find yourself in as a civilization are a big determining factor in what happens.

Ron: And it's it's kind of dispelling the whole great person theory and like, oh, Columbus was f****** had a massive p**** and that's why he was able to do all the stuff they did.

Ron: It's actually just like, well, no, it's because in North America, unless you're going to try and tame a f****** bison, there is nothing that you could build a fence around to try and box in and sort of have any kind of livestock or anything.

Ron: And then there's loads of threads you can pull on it.

Ron: Because a lot of the diseases that we brought over to the innovative commas, again, the New World, those came from the fact that in these big, dense European cities, people were living in close proximity with animals all of the time.

Ron: And then zoonosis is where diseases coming from animals, like in the same way coronavirus came from a bat or a pangolin or barmadilla or wherever it was.

Ron: Those are the most virile, those are the most dangerous diseases, because the ones that have just been passed from human to human all the time, in the same way that Spanish flu that killed millions of people is now just normal flu.

Ron: They've been tamed down, whereas it comes sorry, if it comes from an animal, it gets really bad.

Ron: And then that's what we brought over.

Ron: And that's why they didn't have resistance to these type of things, because they didn't have animals that they lived closely with.

Laura: You know, that the rest is History podcast that you about.

Laura: I listened to the Columbus episode.

Laura: They did a three part series, I think, on Columbus, and it was fascinating.

Laura: I don't really know much about him personally, but I didn't realise he sort of died in obscurity, pretty much.

Ron: Funnily enough, I've just been reading Otto English's fake history, which talks quite a lot.

Laura: That's great.

Laura: I read that.

Ron: Yeah, there's a whole bit about Columbus and that.

Ron: And he says that there's obviously a couple all these things come from a couple of different starting points, but it was Irving Washington's, one of his books, that started, like, the Columbus myth.

Ron: It was almost sort of an intentionally fabricated thing of like, we need a sort of civilised European to be the figurehead of this.

Ron: Because if we actually went back to who these sort of initial founders or settlers were, we'd be talking about Vikings and barbarians, basically, which isn't the image.

Laura: That they wanted, because he didn't actually have that much to do with North America.

Ron: He never set foot on North America.

Laura: No.

Laura: And I didn't realise that at all.

Laura: It was way more I think it was Venezuela.

Laura: He sort of I thought it was.

Ron: Sandeming, which became Haiti.

Ron: Haiti, I think.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: You probably know more.

Laura: I never remember the details, but yeah, really good, though.

Laura: I really enjoyed that.

Ron: Yeah, great book so far.

Ron: I've just read the whole thing about Dunkirk in that one.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: I had no idea I was thinking.

Laura: About getting that for first nephew.

Laura: I think he would really enjoy that.

Laura: He loves all this, like, raging against the system.

Ron: Yeah, he's acutely see how engaged our.

Laura: Podcast would be if it was on a subject I was interested in social sciences.

Laura: Come on.

Ron: Anyway, right, you did all my history.

Laura: Podcasts for me this week, because I'm off work a little bit.

Laura: How did that go?

Ron: Oh, it was just like a normal episode of it.

Ron: We'll never got in touch to f****** recording.

Laura: Oh, it did not happen.

Ron: Yesterday afternoon came and went and I didn't get a message from it.

Laura: I guess all that work is piling up for me when I get back, then.

Laura: Great.

Laura: Good.

Ron: Anyway.

Laura: Is that it now?

Laura: Have we run out of time?

Laura: How long?

Ron: That was good, though.

Laura: It was good content.

Laura: It wasn't science, it was education, though.

Ron: And I think that the best teachers are the ones that kind of give context and get you inspired about the subject.

Laura: Yeah, no, you got me inspired about talking to you in the world, not about the subject at all.

Laura: Springs.

Laura: That's how we got there.

Laura: Kangaroos.

Ron: Oh, yeah, that was a fun tangent.

Ron: Kangaroos.

Ron: I'll cycle this bit more back to science.

Ron: It's a very efficient way to move, because if you think about when you're walking, you have to put in effort in every individual step a little bit, not loads.

Ron: Walking is very efficient as well.

Ron: It's one of the reasons why humans are very successful creatures.

Ron: But kangaroos is very efficient because if you think of it as a spring, they spring forwards, they land, it compresses the spring, and most of the energy that they've used in taking that first step is then stored up in the spring, and then when they spring back up, they just use that same energy again.

Laura: So they don't have do they have the same muscles?

Laura: Are their muscles, like, slightly different to ours?

Ron: I think they're quite different, yeah.

Laura: All right, this is going to sound really stupid, but do they have, like, springs?

Laura: Do they have, like, springy bits in them or anything to be good at being springs?

Laura: Because I never feel like my muscles are that helpful when I'm jumping.

Ron: They're not like coiled spring.

Laura: No, they're more like rubber bands.

Laura: If they evolved to have slightly different muscle fibres or anything that were more.

Ron: Springy, I'm sure they have, to be honest.

Laura: Any kangaroo scientists, please get in touch.

Ron: I'd love that.

Ron: Anyone that wants to pay for us to go to Australia Zoo as well.

Laura: Yeah, maybe we should try and get booked on the Australian festivals, go out and do Lexx Education live.

Ron: That would be good.

Ron: I want to meet the Irwins.

Laura: That's my tummy rumbling.

Ron: That was your tummy?

Ron: Wow.

Laura: Yeah, I've got a rumble in my tumble.

Ron: Anywho, so the relationship that we've just talked about, force equals spring constant times extension.

Ron: This does not just apply to pulling springs, it also applies to the compression of an elastic object.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: That's the push me, pull you thing I was talking about.

Ron: Okay, sure.

Ron: Now, do you remember the concept of work?

Laura: Yes.

Ron: Do you want to just a little nip of a definition.

Ron: Have you seen this, by the way?

Ron: Yoki is vicious.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: In the crook of my arm.

Laura: She is needy today.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: She's up in the neediness on the podcast by 3%.

Laura: It's when force displaces an object that is work.

Ron: Yeah, it is.

Ron: So work is defined by the amount of force you applied and the distance that went that it pushed something.

Ron: Go, then, go.

Ron: And a force that stretches spring is doing work, you see.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Because it's moving one end of the spring.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: And the work that is done is then stored as elastic potential energy in the spring.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Ready to go boing or pling?

Laura: Those noises really illustrated going out or back in.

Laura: I realised it did not at all.

Ron: Provided the string is not inelastically deformed, the work done on the spring and the elastic potential energy stored are equal.

Ron: Do you remember last time when we spoke that if you stretch a spring too far and you break it, then you ruin all of these formulas.

Ron: None of them work anymore.

Ron: If you break the spring yeah.

Laura: It's like normal work done.

Laura: If you go too far, suddenly you've undone all your work.

Ron: What do you mean, normal work?

Ron: Oh, you mean like plastic surgery?

Laura: Surgery.

Laura: If you've had work done, you have it done.

Laura: There's a limit.

Laura: And then bring broken.

Laura: Now you just look you just don't look quite like a human face anymore.

Laura: And people's eyes will sprinkle when they see you.

Ron: That's the uncanny choice.

Laura: You do what you do, no judgement.

Laura: But I think we read faces weirdly when they've had too much work done or too much.

Laura: It's a judgement call, isn't it, that it's not my value judgement to give.

Laura: But you seem to be digging yourself.

Ron: A pit that no one's asked for.

Laura: I know.

Ron: So it says students should be able to describe the difference between a linear and nonlinear relationship between force and extension.

Ron: So do you know what a linear relationship is, Laura?

Laura: It's like a relationship where, like, if I pull, it comes with me and it's coming with me at the same rate that I'm pulling.

Laura: We're growing at the same rate.

Laura: Kind of a deal.

Ron: You're not wrong.

Ron: It's just like you stand on stage with a microphone as a job and communicate with people and then you try and do something like this.

Ron: It's just the worst word salad I've seen.

Ron: You do hour long shows that have made people cry.

Laura: I know what I'm talking about there.

Laura: I never talk about stuff that I'm not confident in.

Laura: This.

Laura: Maybe linear just means, like, it's quite straightforward, the relationship.

Laura: It's just going in one direction.

Laura: A line.

Laura: It's a line.

Laura: Is it?

Laura: That is it a straight line, no backtracking.

Ron: Snow Squiggles so it basically just means that it's proportional.

Laura: That's exactly what I said.

Ron: Yeah, but do you see how I said it in one word?

Laura: Oh, but you're a scientist and if I'd said proportional, you'd probably have said, Explain that to me, without using the word that basically means linear.

Ron: Well, no, I'd have said, Explain that to me, because I just want to make sure you haven't read it on the back of a crisp packet and parroting it back to me.

Ron: You actually understand what it means.

Laura: Explanation I'd already bloody given.

Ron: Yeah, but again, Laura, I said yes.

Ron: You're right.

Ron: It just means that it's proportional.

Laura: Yeah, but you kind of went, yes, you're right, you tiny idiot.

Ron: No, that's you projecting.

Laura: I don't think it is.

Laura: I've dropped my pen now.

Laura: Oh.

Laura: Found another gel pen under the tape.

Ron: Okay, so if I put in twice as much force, I'm going to extend the spring twice as extend the spring twice as far.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Yeah, that makes sense.

Ron: Whereas an example of a nonlinear relationship would be an exponential one.

Ron: So if I oh, yeah.

Ron: Put in twice as much force, I might extend it four times as far.

Laura: Pretty cool.

Laura: Pushing a ball down a hill has an exponential relationship, does it?

Laura: Yes.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Because it will gather speed as it goes down.

Ron: So the last thing that it wants us to do is we have no idea of knowing if that's right.

Laura: Feels right, doesn't it?

Ron: It's boring enough that I'm not going to answer.

Laura: Let's do another.

Laura: Podcast calls.

Laura: Feels right.

Laura: Dummit.

Laura: And we just sort of say stuff that no, wait, that's all podcasts.

Laura: Just say stuff that you just sort of blindly assume is right without really checking to be fair about it.

Ron: It is most online conversations it is intoxicating, though.

Ron: Like, we talked for five minutes earlier about all of that stuff and it was the best I've ever felt on this podcast.

Laura: Half remembered things and facts that are not facts.

Laura: It's podcasts.

Ron: So it also says, Laura, students should be able to calculate a spring constant in linear cases.

Ron: So we're going to do some okay, all right, then.

Laura: I've made a b*** out of some blue tack.

Laura: Look.

Laura: It's got quite a convincing nip, I think.

Laura: B***.

Laura: Call me a b***.

Laura: I'd never call anyone a b***.

Laura: You're a b***.

Laura: What film is that from?

Ron: Look who's talking.

Ron: Quite a good guess, though.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: So, Laura.

Laura: It takes two to tango.

Ron: A force of 500 to extend a spring one metre.

Laura: Hang on.

Laura: Writing time.

Ron: What's the spring constant?

Laura: Wait.

Laura: I said wait, you f***.

Ron: That was a bit much.

Laura: You heard me say wait, and I said I was writing and you carried on.

Ron: But I'd given all of the information.

Ron: I was just finishing off the question.

Laura: But it wasn't until you got to the end of saying, Force 500 Newtons.

Laura: That was when I'd selected a gel pen and decided to write this down, then I had to remember 500 Newtons, where, in fact, you didn't say Newtons, you said force.

Laura: 500.

Laura: I remembered it was Newtons and now I've written that down and now I don't know the rest of the information.

Laura: What was it, please, sir?

Ron: A distance of I'm going to change it, actually.

Laura: Why?

Ron: Ten metres.

Ron: We're extending this spring.

Ron: Ten metre spring.

Ron: What's the spring constant?

Laura: Okay, so force.

Laura: So we got 500 equals x times ten.

Laura: So to get x, we've got to divide both sides by ten.

Laura: So the spring constant is 15 newtons per metre.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: Very nice.

Ron: Well done.

Ron: Okay, let's do a different one just to test your math.

Laura: Is it?

Laura: Is that right?

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: You divide 500 by ten.

Ron: Yoki can do that.

Laura: F*** you.

Ron: For context, listener.

Ron: Laura said she was quite stressed before this recording.

Ron: I'm doing my best to wind her up.

Ron: She's got nothing going on in her life.

Laura: Not rising to the bait.

Laura: It's fine.

Laura: Who even needs access to their own Facebook account?

Laura: What does it matter if some scammer on the internet's got all of my personal messages and bank details?

Ron: So, Laura, if it took a force of 47 and a half newtons to extend a spring hang on.

Ron: Eight centimetres.

Laura: What's that?

Laura: Eight centimetres?

Ron: Yep.

Laura: Wait, well, first of all, I need that to be metres.

Laura: So I'm going to multiply everything by 100, am I?

Laura: Ten.

Laura: I am.

Laura: Just because.

Laura: So if I multiply, do I need to multiply it by 100?

Laura: I'm multiply it by ten to get it into metres.

Laura: That doesn't work.

Laura: Then it's just 80.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: 80 metres isn't eight centimetres, is it?

Laura: No.

Laura: And 80 centimetres is still not a metre.

Laura: Wait, no, I can just call it zero eight of a metre.

Laura: Yep, that's easier.

Laura: So I've got to divide 47.55.0.

Laura: 847.5 divided by .08 equals 593.75.

Ron: Sounds about right.

Laura: I hate it when you haven't worked out the answer.

Ron: Why?

Laura: Because it makes me feel like all was for naught.

Ron: Well, when I've just pulled random numbers out of my head to, well, pull.

Laura: Them out and find the answer, do the work, Ron.

Ron: No.

Laura: Yes.

Ron: No.

Laura: Why not?

Ron: Because it's just like it's fine in it.

Ron: I find it find it really hard, really hard to make the content for physics because it's so dry.

Ron: If this was biology and we were learning about something, I'd do a bit of research and I'd find some cool examples around it or something.

Ron: Or maybe because I'm a top legend, they'd just come off the top of their head.

Ron: But when we're just talking about spring, can you think of any good springs?

Laura: I did think of a cool those big car ones.

Ron: And honestly, that's why they pay you the silly money, because you do have just a good spring on the back of a knock influence.

Ron: The weirdest heckler ever comes up is a slinky.

Laura: A spring what's going on.

Laura: When a slinky goes down the stairs.

Ron: That'S for another day.

Ron: But no, a slinky is not a spring.

Laura: Let's make a note of that for patriot.

Ron: If you pull a slinky like side.

Laura: This is your first detent.

Laura: Ron.

Laura: Ron, you have to explain slinkies.

Ron: I think slinkies might be no, I'm not doing it now, but I think slinkies might be a bit like bikes.

Ron: Like, nobody knows how they work.

Laura: They get top heavy, don't they?

Ron: What?

Laura: I don't know how a slinky works.

Laura: Bikes do.

Laura: Yes, you put too many people if.

Ron: You'Re on a bike, which means no.

Laura: One knows how a bike works.

Ron: Nobody knows how a bike stands up.

Laura: No, that's bumblebees.

Ron: That's both no, honestly, nobody knows why when you're on a bike, it stays upright.

Laura: Get off bikes, everyone.

Laura: That can't be true.

Laura: Who invented them?

Laura: They must have had a good idea.

Ron: The Romans, I think.

Laura: No, they didn't.

Laura: Romans didn't have bicycles.

Laura: No, they did have the wheel.

Laura: They didn't have bicycles.

Ron: I think it was Victorian times.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Why do bikes stay upright suddenly appear every time?

Laura: I think it's just momentum.

Laura: It's like every time they're on a bit of ground, they would wobble.

Laura: They're not on it anymore.

Laura: Imagine if a bumblebee was riding a bike.

Laura: Physicists would s*** their pants.

Laura: This isn't possible.

Ron: I'm reading an article called your Bike Secret to Staying Upright is actually a mystery.

Ron: And then the first sentence of the article is, everybody knows how a bike stays up.

Ron: Right?

Ron: Oh, no, wait.

Ron: But then it says or do they?

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Always read the whole card.

Ron: We should play a bit of Magic the Gathering when I'm in Brighton.

Laura: Yes, please.

Laura: I'm playing magic.

Laura: The Gathering.

Ron: Apart from my phone in ages.

Laura: It's not me.

Laura: I forgot I had it on my phone.

Laura: No, me neither.

Laura: Tom doesn't really like playing anymore.

Ron: Why?

Laura: I don't know.

Laura: Every time I've suggested it, he's just said no.

Ron: He had that hobby for 25 years and he introduced us to it.

Laura: We can suck the money out of anything.

Ron: Honestly.

Ron: He probably just thought it was too boring for us to worm our way in like little bold New Yorkies.

Laura: Yeah, no, you have a lot more money since you moved away.

Laura: And we stopped buying cards all the time.

Ron: Same.

Ron: Although that was locked down.

Ron: That was fine.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: And you should move back.

Ron: Don't.

Ron: We're going to move, though, in Brussels.

Laura: Just in Brussels.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Why don't you move to a quiet suburb called Brighton?

Laura: It's lovely.

Ron: Everything's fine, Laura.

Laura: You can live with me rent free for a year.

Ron: Just a year.

Laura: Ten years.

Laura: You could live with me, too.

Laura: On yucky.

Ron: Anyway, let's not pull this thread.

Laura: Come on, Ron.

Ron: You know you want to calculate work done in stretching or compressing a spring using the equation.

Laura: All right.

Laura: That's what we just did, right?

Ron: No.

Laura: Wouldn't it be the same?

Laura: Why would I made a.

Laura: Woodlouse out of my blue tack now.

Ron: Right?

Laura: I'm being will.

Laura: I'm playing, literally playing with blue tack.

Ron: Yeah, you are very much like Will.

Ron: Right.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: Can you please write out the what am I trying to say?

Ron: The equation for spring extension.

Ron: I don't know it f equals Ke, f equals K force equals K.

Ron: The spring constant multiply by E for extension.

Laura: Oh, it's the same as the spring constant one.

Laura: I didn't know it was K.

Laura: That's fun.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Hooks law.

Laura: Hooks law.

Ron: Is May and easy hooks.

Laura: It might ruin your cheek skin.

Laura: That's what a fish is eating when it gets you annoying.

Laura: Oh, no.

Laura: I don't even like HooksLaw.

Ron: I love coleslaw.

Ron: When I was a kid, mom used to make me coleslaw sandwiches for taking school.

Laura: Did?

Laura: Do you ever have coleslaw on pizza?

Ron: No.

Ron: But I would.

Ron: No.

Ron: Sounds good.

Laura: It's the best thing Louise ever introduced me to.

Laura: In Sweden, like, cabbage salad is is common to have on pizza, but basically it's slightly less mayonnaisey coleslaw.

Ron: So put coleslaw, add some mayo to it, and then you love well, even.

Laura: Having the salad as they have, it delicious.

Laura: It adds an excellent edge to pizza.

Laura: But coleslaw and pizza, man, game changer.

Ron: Yeah, no, I see that being good because I like my food to be wet.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: And but extra crunch, but in the cheese on the mom.

Ron: Yeah, that sounds good.

Ron: Anyway, and then can you write out the formula for work done?

Laura: Work done?

Laura: Yes.

Laura: Right here we're looking at work, which is in joules equals force in Newtons times distance.

Laura: So what would the letter for work be?

Laura: W it's w.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: So that one is just W equals F e because E is distance for some reason.

Ron: E is the extension.

Laura: Is that the same as distance?

Ron: Well, when you're pulling a spring, yes.

Laura: What would I put it on in my work done formula?

Laura: What letter?

Laura: Just d for distance.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Hi.

Laura: Yucky.

Ron: Love of God.

Laura: She just appears from any angle into the camera field.

Laura: It's amazing.

Ron: Honestly, it's f****** exhausting.

Ron: So we need to work out, Laura, how much work is done when we extend our spring, don't we?

Laura: Probably.

Ron: So how can we do that with these two formula?

Laura: Well, we know the force and the Newtons in our spring extensions, so we multiply them.

Ron: Say that again.

Ron: Sorry.

Laura: We know the Newtons and the distance in our spring extension calculation.

Laura: So we just multiply them and then we get the joules.

Laura: What?

Laura: I don't know what we're doing.

Ron: I'm not following you.

Laura: What are you multiplying force times distance equals work done.

Ron: Yeah, but what we want to do sorry, give me a second.

Laura: Are you really hot?

Laura: Which one of Ron's classics is it?

Laura: It's very hot.

Laura: I need some water.

Laura: I'm in the wrong chair.

Ron: How you do this?

Ron: And you don't ever drink a sip of water?

Laura: I never drink water on why not?

Laura: Because it's a myth that we need it.

Ron: Yeah, but why?

Ron: What is nice?

Laura: No, it isn't.

Laura: Also now every time I have a drink of water, she looks at it and goes, that and then I have to share my water with her and then my water tastes like whatever it is she's recently been eating.

Ron: Get different water.

Laura: She don't want that, though.

Laura: She wants the one I've had.

Ron: That's like Judith, to be fair.

Laura: Kids obsessed with me.

Ron: I just can't work out where the half has come from.

Laura: I don't know what the h*** you're talking about.

Ron: No, I haven't really explained it to you.

Laura: No, you've just started muttering about half.

Laura: We've only really got five minutes of the lesson left.

Ron: The thing is, I was going to get you to combine these two formulas, right?

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: So F equals Ke in terms of force equals spring constant.

Ron: Then what written down equals F e.

Ron: Essentially like F times the extension.

Laura: Yeah, that's what I've written down, too.

Laura: I'm a scientist as well.

Ron: Yeah, so what you can do is you can sub the F from F from the second one to be another Ke.

Ron: Right?

Ron: So your work done equals Ke times E, but then what I'm looking at, there's a half in there and I don't know where it's come from because the actual formula is a half k times E squared.

Ron: Yucky.

Ron: Get out of the draw, please.

Ron: Please.

Ron: And I just don't know how to Google finding out what I don't understand.

Laura: Me neither, Ron.

Ron: Combine these f****** equations, please.

Ron: The work done on the spring and the elastic potential are equal.

Ron: We might have to.

Laura: Come back to this because I got gum feed Squink in a minute.

Ron: Yeah, we'll have to come back to it.

Laura: Yeah, okay.

Ron: Sorry.

Laura: No, that's all right.

Ron: Yeah, that's really thrown me off and I can't find an answer.

Laura: No problem.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: Do you want to just say something to that extent, then we can just stick music in and just add five minutes on when you've clarified.

Ron: Yeah, I can't work this out.

Ron: The second bloody physics in a row.

Ron: We're going to have to put a pin in that.

Laura: Bloody h***.

Laura: Physics.

Laura: Look at you getting cranks.

Laura: All right, Ron, well, listen, we'll put some jingly music in and we will return to this when you've had time to investigate.

Ron: We will return.

Laura: Are we saying that we had a gap?

Ron: Yeah, we say at the end of the last record bit there, to go away and figure it all out.

Laura: Are we doing the quiz as well?

Ron: No, I figured we'd just do the quiz next time.

Laura: Okay.

Laura: Well, Ron, how did your figuring out go?

Ron: I had to text a friend and it was quite embarrassing.

Laura: Was it Noah?

Ron: No.

Ron: I've been bothering Noah so much recently that I couldn't text, so I'm learning how to code for my job and no one knows.

Ron: No one knows the statistical language.

Ron: Are and just a lot more about coding and development and stuff than me.

Ron: So I've had to ask him so many questions recently, and really dumb ones sometimes, just about getting it set, because you'd think it would just be like download a thing and get going, but it's really not, there's so much to it, so I couldn't ask him.

Ron: So then I had to ask my friend Max.

Ron: Congratulations on the engagement, Max.

Laura: That's so exciting.

Laura: To the travelling lady.

Ron: Travelling lady?

Laura: The lady that he was going to go travelling with.

Ron: Yes.

Laura: I can see how that's come out with he made it sound like.

Ron: He'S engaged to a travelling Bible salesperson.

Laura: No, just a normal lady.

Laura: The lady, I've met her, she's very gentle.

Laura: They're both quite gentle people.

Ron: Max is gentle.

Laura: He can be.

Laura: He's got that like he'd move a ladybird heir to him.

Ron: Sometimes he'd stamp on the ladybird.

Laura: Oh, Max, don't do that.

Ron: Max doesn't.

Ron: Max did listen for a bit.

Ron: I don't think he does anymore.

Ron: If he does, then he's a very good friend, because he never mentions it.

Laura: Why is that very good friend?

Ron: Oh, just to listen and enjoy and not sort of feel like you have to make it known that you listen, just not that anyone that does make it known they listen is a bad, but you know what I mean.

Laura: Ron stuck himself into a hole of anxiety.

Ron: No, but he once said that he was always disappointed when we got off the tangent and back onto the science.

Laura: Yeah, that's fair.

Laura: Me too.

Laura: Me too, Max.

Laura: I do my best to keep us in tangent alley.

Ron: Yeah, but anyway, yes, I messaged Max about it, so I don't know how much I explained about tangentially, how much I explained about what was f****** me up last time, but I'll explain it now.

Laura: My notes look absolutely nosebleed boring for this episode.

Laura: It's not even a little bit of fun.

Laura: It's like I'm not even there.

Ron: It was a bad episode and to be honest, I really should have come back with Toasty chat too, just to sort of lift the end of the episode.

Laura: I'd forgotten we hadn't even finished an episode.

Laura: That's where my attention spans at, so don't worry about it, Ron.

Ron: Luckily, Dara Brian next week, so that's going to bring all those listeners back.

Laura: Wicked.

Ron: So where it came from is that we know you and I know us.

Laura: Actually, I can't remember if we said Dara for episode 52 or if it was going to be for the year point.

Ron: Well, 52 would be the year, wouldn't it?

Laura: No, because we dropped three episodes on day one.

Ron: Edit this out.

Laura: It's your edit, we'll see what you do.

Laura: I didn't edit it out, I've got it scheduled.

Laura: No, I've got it scheduled for episode 55.

Laura: It will be the 3 July, because we started on the 4 July last year.

Ron: Take a break for a few weeks, because I don't like that the 52 isn't a year.

Laura: Well, we can release it on 52 is a year's worth of episodes.

Ron: But then that's weird as well.

Laura: Well, I think that's right sometimes.

Laura: Yes.

Laura: Reasons.

Laura: And sometimes it's giving into an anxiety.

Laura: And I think stopping a successful regular podcast just before you've reached a year of routinely released episodes just to satisfy your brain glitching, that's a full heritage.

Ron: That'S we've been consistent, though.

Laura: We've been so consistent.

Ron: What do you think our worst?

Laura: I'm really proud of us.

Laura: This one, I don't know, because the thing is, the ones that I think, like, there was one the other day that I was like, oh, this is f****** dull.

Laura: We just talk about science for an hour and somebody was like, oh, this has been my favourite episode yet.

Laura: It was so gentle and lovely and you just got along and talked about science.

Laura: And I was like, oh, some people like this.

Laura: So I just think even when it's I was thinking about this and sorry to hark on about Complete Guide, but sometimes I get to the end of a Complete Guide episode.

Laura: I don't care if nothing that's made me laugh out loud has happened.

Laura: I've just loved hanging out with them for enough.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: And I hope that's how some people feel about this.

Ron: I was listening to The Complete Guide earlier and it was very funny because they were talking about people they'd met in the UK comedy scene.

Laura: Did they say, me?

Ron: I think this was before you'd met them.

Laura: Thank you for coming up with that excuse, Ron.

Ron: That was very kind of how they got very drunk with Nishku Marvellonce books.

Ron: The podcast, one of the episodes where they read 1984.

Laura: Oh, yeah.

Laura: That's quite a while ago now, isn't it?

Laura: I've just been finishing withering Heights.

Ron: Withering Heights?

Laura: No, withering Tom doesn't know how to.

Ron: Say withering god, that book sounds dull.

Laura: I loved it.

Laura: I think it's quite good.

Ron: Some of the classic book ones that they do, I get, like, I really wanted to read Little Women after they did that one.

Ron: I didn't.

Laura: Little Women's?

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: That sounded really nice.

Ron: Weathering heights sounded awful.

Laura: No, weathering Heights is good.

Ron: I'm sure it is.

Ron: History has decided that otherwise we wouldn't.

Laura: Still be I read it, like, as a teenager and found it really readable and followable and exciting.

Laura: As a teenager.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: When they were saying, like, it's indeterminable and this and that, I was kind of like, oh, I remember it being one of the first old books that made me go, oh, it can be fun to read old books.

Laura: Whereas, like Pride and Prejudice, I was like, every single chapter.

Laura: I read the whole thing and go, I am 100% certain there was no plot in that.

Laura: And then we'd go into an English class and they'd talk about, well, you see here, when she puts perhaps at the end of her sentence that means this and that, and you'd be like, Just use more exciting words then, so that you know it at the time you're reading it.

Laura: You don't have to go and sit in a circle and chat about it afterwards.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: For me, I think my old book growing up ones were To Kill a Mockingbird.

Laura: Great book.

Ron: Catch her in the rye.

Laura: Never read it.

Ron: Catch her in the rye.

Ron: It's one of those books.

Ron: I think you might have to be a teenager to really enjoy it.

Ron: I am, but I think it's worth reading because it's so short that even if, like, you're not like, even if you're not loving it, you know, you can tick it off the classic books list relatively easily.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Anyway, Ron, what are we supposed to do?

Laura: Because for us, this is like the start of a record, but for the listener, they were midway through an episode where some science was happening.

Laura: Then we've swand off.

Ron: I'm pretty sure.

Ron: I'm pretty sure we started off this episode, and we talked about Otto English's fake history for, like, ten minutes.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: This is a social sciences episode.

Ron: I'd like to do an episode on books.

Ron: Maybe on the patreon one day.

Laura: We can do that.

Laura: Yeah, we can do an English episode.

Ron: I'd quite like to do that once.

Ron: Let's do it.

Ron: 80 patrons, books episode.

Laura: Oh, my God.

Laura: Are you even slightly making a note of this?

Laura: You came up with one for 200 last week.

Ron: Did I?

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: What was it?

Laura: I can't remember now.

Laura: I'm hoping you're writing them down.

Ron: No, I'm not.

Laura: Stop throwing out promises that you have no aim of living up to the cook along.

Ron: I'll do, and a books episode will probably do that even if you have 80 patrons.

Ron: We might.

Ron: Anyway, so the confusion came last week because we'd done work done.

Ron: Work done equals the force being applied by the distance that it moved, and then we moved on to forces and elasticity.

Ron: The force in elasticity equals the spring constant times the extension.

Ron: There was then a sentence where it says, provided the spring is not inelastically deformed, the work done on the spring and the elastic potential energy are equal.

Ron: Then I tried to combine the two formulae.

Ron: So what you can do is you can sub the f equals Ke equation into the w equals FS equation, because the distances are the same.

Ron: So they become s or e squared.

Ron: And then the f is then k.

Ron: But then at the end of the section, it says that the formula for elastic potential energy is elastic potential energy equals a half k e squared.

Ron: And I was like, wow, where does that half come from?

Ron: That doesn't make any sense to me.

Ron: Then I spoke to Max about it, and he was like, yes, because to actually find those, you've got to integrate the curve and find the area underneath it.

Ron: And then that's basically finding out the area of a triangle, and it's because the force isn't always constant.

Ron: The force changes as you extend.

Laura: That's really good.

Ron: So the key thing to take away and potentially write down is elastic potential energy equals a half times K, which is the spring constant.

Laura: Hang on, it's going too fast.

Laura: It's going to elastic potential energy.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: Elastic potential energy equals a half times the spring constant.

Ron: Times the extension squared.

Laura: Ronald.

Ron: But I can't just say half a sentence.

Laura: You can.

Laura: Half what?

Ron: Half the spring constant represented by the.

Laura: Letter K.

Laura: Hang on, stop again.

Laura: K.

Laura: Yes.

Ron: Multiplied by the extension squared.

Laura: This one's more complicated.

Laura: What do you call extension?

Ron: E.

Ron: Lily.

Laura: Lily.

Laura: Lily.

Laura: God.

Ron: Okay, so we need to be able to do sums with this.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: So let's say that the spring constant for a spring, Laura, is 119, and we extend that spring two and a half metres.

Ron: How much elastic potential energy is in that spring?

Laura: So, first of all, I need to halve 119.

Laura: So that's difficult because it's an odd number.

Laura: So what am I looking at?

Laura: 59.5 there, then?

Laura: Squared is timesd by itself, so it'll be two and a half times two and a half.

Ron: Do you know what bod mass is?

Laura: Oh, yeah.

Laura: No.

Laura: Bring old dogs.

Laura: More.

Laura: And angel squash.

Ron: Angel squash?

Laura: Yeah, something like that.

Laura: Isn't it?

Laura: Two and a half times two and a half equals 6.25, and then just times those together, I believe.

Laura: But I imagine you've told me this Bob Mass thing because I've done it wrong.

Laura: So elastic potential energy discounting bod mass, 371.875.

Ron: Sounds about right.

Laura: Screw bod mass.

Ron: Do you want to know what bod mass is?

Laura: It's something about the order you have to do maths in.

Laura: Isn't it?

Laura: Like Byron Trump's overlords.

Laura: Why would multiple add subtract?

Ron: Yeah, it's brackets, order, division, multiplication, addition, subtraction.

Ron: Yeah, so do whatever is in the brackets first.

Laura: There wasn't any.

Laura: I didn't write any brackets.

Ron: No, that's fine.

Ron: And then order.

Ron: It means you do, like, things that are squared first and stuff like that.

Laura: Well, that didn't matter, because I wasn't.

Ron: Going to do anything in this case.

Ron: Yeah, it didn't matter.

Ron: But just in future.

Laura: Yes.

Ron: Let's say that we have stored 123,000 joules of electric.

Laura: Is this going to be another sandwich?

Laura: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

Laura: What have we done?

Laura: 100.

Laura: And what?

Ron: We've stored 123,000 joules of elastic potential energy.

Ron: That's a lot in a spring.

Ron: With a spring constant of 258, how far have we extended that spring?

Laura: So I've got to get E squared on its own, which means I've got to divide 123,000 by half of two five, eight.

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Could I do the same to both sides?

Laura: That's I just said that, you squidge.

Laura: Wait, 123,000 divided by what would that be?

Laura: 100.

Laura: And 2529 is 953.

Laura: But then don't we want the square root of that 953?

Laura: Yeah, probably how'd you do square root.

Laura: It's difficult, isn't it?

Laura: Divide it by itself to get the square root.

Ron: Why don't you divide it by itself and see what happens then?

Laura: I'll get one when I yeah, that.

Ron: Doesn'T matter what you divide by itself, you get a one.

Laura: How'd you do the square root, Ron?

Ron: There's a square root button somewhere on your calculator, I should think.

Laura: Oh, if I turn it sideways are you impressive me for realising I need to get a square root, though?

Ron: No.

Laura: 30.8 830.8 watt metres.

Ron: Well done.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: And I think that's probably a good place to leave this weird Disjointed booksy episode.

Laura: Yeah, Ron, I'm big fan of being your sister.

Laura: Okay, now, this quiz is going to be tricky because we've done another episode since we did this episode, so I double don't know anything.

Ron: Yeah, luckily we didn't.

Laura: Oh, Ron, I used all my gel pens for Eurovision last night.

Ron: Oh, yeah.

Laura: For the scorecards.

Laura: All the girls came over and we watched Eurovision and my gel pens got used for something other than science and they're so happy now.

Ron: That's very nice.

Ron: I'm not having any more of you being angry at me for convoluted the podcast time continuum after this.

Ron: Mention what you're always like.

Ron: You can't mention that because it's going to make the f****** listeners weeks blow off.

Laura: Because, Ron, I'm sorry, but the last thing we recorded was you doing a ten minute charade about how no one should listen to our podcast because it's all bad and bollocks.

Laura: So I will talk about Eurovision having been last night, even though it's late June now to my heart's confucking tent.

Laura: Thank you.

Ron: What did you think of the Coronation?

Laura: I think it's very boring.

Laura: I did watch nearly all of it, though, because Mum was staying, so we had it on.

Ron: I saw your tweet about the normal life thing that was very oh, my God.

Laura: It was insane.

Laura: It was just insane.

Laura: The thing is, like, I do kind of get why Mum likes it, because she's like, oh, it's history, but it's uncomfortable history.

Laura: Like, there's loads of history.

Laura: I wouldn't want to watch life and continuing to crown like an overlord is probably one of them.

Laura: There's just quite a lot of history that, yeah, it is history, but it doesn't mean it's, like, phenomenal.

Ron: Also, one of the problems I had with it is, like, yeah, it is history and it's a little bit significant.

Ron: We watched, like, a bit of it just out of interest, we watched the most right wing f****** clip show of interest, sort of see how nuts it got.

Ron: But it is history.

Ron: But then they didn't explain any of the history during any of it.

Ron: So it's like, oh, he's touching the sacred stone, he's putting on the magic gloves and all of this stuff, and he sat on, like, this wooden chair that looked awesome.

Ron: And it's like, what's the history of that object?

Ron: What the f***'s going on?

Ron: Why is he touching that's?

Laura: Because all the history is it's just well, we stole that from India and that's Greek.

Laura: That is from a country that's now called this in Africa.

Laura: But, hey, for 70 years we called it this because we thought it was more fun.

Laura: Exactly.

Laura: John Smith's garden.

Laura: That's literally the history of it all.

Laura: So they can't that's what's weird about it now, I think it's like that William and Kate's kids being in a gold carriage and the commentator saying, like, oh, they just want them to be quite normal.

Laura: I think if you're going to have a monarchy rolling around London in golden carriages in stolen gems, go balls out unapologetic, this, like half hoddling on the line with Charles going like, oh, it's going to be a pared down monarchy, because I'm so with it.

Laura: And with your woke nonsense.

Laura: No, you can't be like a moral king that doesn't exist.

Laura: You'd be one or the other.

Laura: Charlie and I'd have more respect for him if he just absolutely went full dictator or just call the whole thing off and admit that it's nonsense, but you can't.

Laura: I think that's where I've got even less patience with it, where it's trying to be both things.

Ron: Yes.

Ron: I mean, I kind of go the other way, where I'm just like, it's fine if rich people want to waste their time doing s*** like this and calling themselves, like, oh, the Marchiness of Chamontley and things like this, as if that means anything, or that's a skill, fine, but just don't make the taxpayer pay for it.

Laura: Yeah, that part of it is bollocks.

Laura: So there you go.

Laura: There's the topical segment of this week's episode.

Ron: Quiz.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: For 51.

Laura: Let me just flick to page 51.

Laura: Oh, no, it's just lots of numbers.

Laura: Iron equals potassium.

Ron: Oh, no.

Laura: I just did a periodic table joke for you, Ron.

Ron: Oh, that was a joke?

Laura: I didn't realise because it says F equals Ke.

Ron: Okay.

Laura: Is that none of them F is fluorine equals FL?

Laura: No, it's just F on mine.

Laura: Is there an E?

Ron: This is falling flat.

Laura: Because you're not reacting to it.

Laura: Like a good Cole Pilkington or I.

Ron: Have to say, after ten plus years of being a boy, a bit interested in science the elements.

Ron: Jokes lose.

Ron: Dead lustre.

Laura: Sorry, we're on.

Ron: That's okay.

Ron: You ready for the quiz now?

Ron: I've thoroughly crushed your spirit.

Laura: Yeah, well, now I just feel bad about everything.

Laura: I was already tired and a bit hungry.

Ron: Eye hanger.

Laura: I didn't even do any drawings in this episode.

Laura: I must have been so sad.

Ron: We need to get out of this funk.

Laura: You brought the funk.

Ron: I'm in a funk.

Laura: Right, we'll ask a f****** question, then it's not unfunking.

Laura: Hey, Ron, what's the first question?

Laura: I eat questions for breakfast, like delicious Gordon Ramsay eggs.

Ron: We're not a good family.

Laura: Why is the whole family being thrown under the bus now?

Laura: What's happening to you?

Laura: Have you had breakfast?

Laura: Have some breakfast, for f***'s sake.

Laura: It's like trying to do a podcast with a dementor.

Ron: Recording a podcast.

Laura: Right.

Ron: I hang a wait on a spring.

Laura: Is this the question or is this you telling me about your future plans?

Ron: This is a cry for help.

Laura: The whole podcast is a cry for help.

Laura: I just thought it was mine.

Ron: I hang away on a spring.

Ron: What forces are involved in the extension of the spring?

Laura: Gravity and Newtons.

Ron: Newtons is the unit that forces are measured in.

Ron: Gravity is correct.

Ron: There's a gravitational pulling it down.

Laura: Mass.

Ron: Don't just say things.

Ron: Don't just it was flying in and around the egg or something, but I think just the boldly burping into the microphone needs to stop there's behind the curtain and there's that.

Laura: Just bit of cute noise over the top of it.

Ron: Are we just going to start, like, ripping loud a** in the poncast?

Ron: Like, where does it end?

Laura: Distance.

Ron: Is distance a force?

Laura: I don't pull.

Laura: Pull.

Laura: Pulling, pushing, pulling.

Ron: The gravity is pulling, isn't it?

Laura: Yeah.

Ron: Don't try and hold in your head.

Laura: Tugging.

Ron: Try and hold in your head.

Ron: The question that's being asked.

Laura: Forces.

Ron: I've hung a weight on a spring.

Ron: Yep.

Laura: Sounds like a song, doesn't it?

Laura: Your weight on a string.

Laura: Puppet on a string.

Laura: That's what I'm thinking of.

Ron: Eleanor.

Ron: Gravity hanging away on a spring pipe.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Gravity.

Ron: Did you hear that?

Ron: That was my tum.

Laura: Is that your pumpkin?

Laura: Have some breakfast.

Laura: Recording a podcast for all of our sake.

Ron: Question.

Ron: Then I get breakfast sooner.

Ron: I did gravity other forces.

Ron: Because if only one force is acting on something, then the continued effect of that force is going to keep happening, isn't it?

Ron: If gravity is the only force acting on something, it's going to fall to earth.

Ron: But I haven't.

Laura: Not if you've stuck it on your.

Ron: So there's another force.

Laura: Glue.

Ron: No.

Laura: What did you do?

Laura: Like wine?

Ron: Force.

Laura: Sticky.

Ron: Sticky.

Laura: Tell me the forces and I'll pick one.

Ron: Draw a diagram.

Laura: No, I don't want to ever draw diagrams.

Laura: Diagrams make it harder to understand in my experience.

Ron: Okay, well, why don't you flick back through your notes?

Laura: I'm looking at my notes.

Ron: You could go further back to the stuff that we did about forces.

Laura: Elasticity.

Laura: I've written that really big.

Ron: Oh, yeah.

Ron: Because that was the title.

Ron: Not a fort.

Laura: Though.

Laura: My physics notes are always just scribbles.

Ron: Let's move on.

Ron: This is just question one of a quiz.

Laura: Weight is a for weight.

Laura: Weight.

Ron: What defines something's weight?

Ron: It's mass and the gravity acting upon it.

Ron: You've said gravity in a few different forms.

Ron: Think about it this way.

Ron: So I've hung the weight on the spring.

Ron: The spring is extended, right?

Ron: And then the weight has stopped moving down.

Ron: What has stopped the vector?

Ron: What has stopped the weight from moving down anymore?

Laura: The spring.

Ron: Yep.

Ron: So what force is spring applying?

Ron: To the weight.

Laura: Spring constant.

Ron: Don't just say things.

Laura: Spring.

Laura: Intermittent.

Laura: Spring.

Laura: Spring.

Laura: Spring.

Ron: The spring is pulling it back up, isn't it?

Ron: And counteracting the force of gravity.

Laura: Up.

Ron: Down, five, up.

Laura: Do you get holding?

Laura: Holding force.

Ron: I'm telling you right now.

Ron: Stop guessing.

Ron: What's?

Ron: The capital of Poland?

Ron: Gadansk.

Ron: No, it's Warsaw.

Ron: Berlin.

Laura: What have you said then?

Ron: The spring is pulling upwards and counteracting the force of gravity.

Laura: I've said spring and up.

Laura: What's right then?

Ron: Because the spring is pulling its attention.

Ron: Force.

Laura: You didn't say tension.

Ron: What you've said is not what I've said.

Ron: You've used two words of the sentence, but you use them disconnected in between a bunch of other garbage.

Ron: If I throw away eggs and flour into the bin, I have not made a cake just because they're both there.

Laura: Eggs.

Laura: Your egg excession.

Laura: Okay, wonder.

Ron: You're moving on.

Ron: We're moving on.

Ron: We're moving on.

Laura: The mass of how many points did I get there?

Laura: I f****** did.

Laura: I said gravity.

Ron: Yeah, but it's one mark the whole question.

Laura: No, it isn't.

Laura: Too much.

Ron: No.

Ron: Carol, you decide.

Laura: Carol will let me have points.

Laura: I know.

Ron: The mass of the object I've hung on the spring is 2.3 kilogrammes.

Laura: I can't hear you when you use that voice.

Ron: The mass of this object hurry on.

Ron: The spring is 2.3 kilogrammes and the spring extends by 75 centimetres.

Ron: What is the spring class that I've had?

Ron: Spring.

Ron: That boy is better.

Laura: This is the bit where we either really cement our fans or the podcast ends, isn't it?

Ron: I think anyone that's still listening after I told them that they were buckling in for six weeks of bad content are the real fans.

Laura: What did you say?

Laura: I didn't listen to any of the.

Ron: Numbers, but that's why I paused after them, because you always tell me off again too quickly.

Ron: The weight.

Laura: I was just waiting to see if it was something I was going to know.

Ron: The weight is 2.3 kilogrammes and the spring extends by 75 wait.

Laura: 2.3 kilogrammes?

Ron: Yep.

Ron: And 75 centimetres.

Laura: 75 centimetres.

Laura: What do you want me to do?

Ron: What is the spring constant of the spring?

Ron: That's not good content.

Ron: Lauren.

Ron: We can't just have a tapping bid.

Laura: We can't just edit it out.

Laura: You f***.

Laura: You just edit it out.

Laura: You're allowed to let me think and then you just edit it out.

Laura: No, it's like how you know when you watch sitcom, they did that scene loads of times to practise it.

Laura: You don't watch Ross and Rachel f****** fall out nine times in a row.

Laura: You just watch the one they liked.

Laura: There's nobody going, oh, but I like all the behind the scenes bits.

Laura: You just f****** cut it.

Laura: Just cut it.

Ron: But I don't like to do that too much because I don't want to give the listener the impression you were that quick.

Laura: Well, then tap a tap a tapper, m***********.

Laura: Because I need to think.

Laura: The problem.

Laura: I've got here.

Laura: Is that my numbers for a spring constant?

Laura: I need to know the force.

Laura: I don't know how to find out the force because you didn't tell me it's.

Ron: But how would the force be?

Ron: What?

Ron: We've we've covered gravity before.

Laura: Not yeah, the moon.

Ron: So where's the force coming from that's pulling it down?

Laura: Gravity and the weight.

Ron: So how do we work out the gravitational force?

Laura: Something to do with the weight.

Laura: But what I was doing while I was tapping and I was so rudely interrupted, was trying to find the little sum that works out.

Laura: How you get force off the weight?

Ron: Do you want me to just tell you?

Laura: I wanted to work it out alone, but seeing as you are so angry with me, the world and our podcast format yeah.

Laura: Why don't you just tell me the answer?

Ron: No.

Laura: I just won't even come to these recordings.

Ron: That's okay.

Ron: You flick through your book and see if you can find a bit on gravity.

Ron: I'm just going to clap a nice rhythm while you do that.

Laura: Can you clap it right onto your frontal lobe?

Ron: What the f***?

Ron: Dara kind of think.

Laura: Is that what's causing this breakdown?

Ron: I want to get things ship shape before Dario Bre.

Laura: Yeah, you're just cleaning up.

Laura: Cleaning house.

Ron: No, I actually think our podcast is very good.

Ron: That's a clip for the Social.

Ron: Despite what I've said, despite what I went on record saying I wouldn't listen.

Laura: To it, but you idiot should.

Laura: Ron, I don't know how to make a weight of force.

Ron: Times it by 9.81.

Laura: No, that's not the answer.

Ron: It is.

Laura: We've never discussed that.

Ron: We have.

Laura: We have not.

Laura: 9.81.

Laura: Get f*** debate.

Laura: No.

Laura: 9.81.

Laura: That is a lie.

Laura: Is that tricko?

Laura: We've never talked about that.

Laura: Wrong.

Ron: Times it by 9.81.

Laura: That's insanity.

Ron: Why is that insanity?

Laura: Well, who's carrying that round in their back pocket?

Ron: I literally just told you that off.

Laura: My back pocket for the first time, by the way.

Laura: I hate this.

Laura: Sorry, I've lost my calculator.

Laura: So 2.3 times .981.

Laura: No, 9.812.3 times 9.81.

Laura: So the force is 22.6 Newtons.

Laura: What am I trying to find?

Ron: The spring constant.

Laura: Spring constant.

Laura: Delicious piece of kit.

Laura: So now I need to divide 22.6 by zero 75, which is the distance wait, what?

Laura: No.

Laura: Times 16.95?

Ron: No, because you should have divided it.

Laura: Oh, 30 something.

Laura: Then I was right.

Ron: Yeah, you were right the first time.

Ron: So I will give you the mark.

Laura: You're going to give me the mark?

Ron: Yeah, because you were right the first time.

Ron: You just doubted yourself.

Ron: But that's okay.

Laura: Thank you.

Ron: Now, Laura, what is the spring constant?

Ron: What does the spring constant describe?

Laura: Stretchiness of the spring.

Ron: Yeah, nice.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: How much elastic potential energy have we stored in the spring?

Laura: A little bit.

Laura: So is that work?

Ron: Is that joules energy?

Laura: Oh, no.

Laura: Half times the spring constant.

Ron: Times.

Laura: Extension squared.

Ron: Yeah, there you go.

Laura: I've written that really confusingly that much, then, which equals don't make me do the sums.

Ron: Okay.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: You get the mark.

Ron: What's the difference?

Laura: Ron?

Ron: Yes.

Laura: Good.

Laura: I don't want to do the numbers.

Laura: No one cares.

Laura: Everybody just say some numbers out loud and that's the answer.

Ron: Three.

Ron: What's the difference between inelastic and elastic extension?

Laura: One of them you have to get planning permission for, and the other one is just about inside hanging out.

Laura: But I'm dish just because it's a wrong edit, so he won't do that.

Laura: What was the question?

Laura: I'm sorry?

Ron: What's the difference between inelastic extension and elastic extension?

Laura: One is stretchy and one is not.

Laura: Oh.

Laura: One goes back and one doesn't.

Laura: One returns to its original in terms.

Ron: Of sort of the stuff that we've been talking about.

Laura: I don't know.

Ron: Then elastic extension obeys the formulas and stuff that we've been talking about in.

Laura: A traffic light extension doesn't yeah, that's what I meant.

Ron: Okay, so that was some marks out of some marks.

Laura: Carol ron, your job is to keep on top of this stuff.

Ron: We got no marks for the first one.

Laura: I did.

Laura: I said gravity.

Ron: Two marks in the middle, and then you didn't get the first, the last one.

Ron: So two out of four ain't bad.

Laura: Wonderful.

Laura: God, I hope you've cheered up by the end of the outro.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: That was an episode, wasn't it?

Laura: It was an episode one.

Laura: Are you hungover?

Ron: No.

Laura: No.

Laura: What did you drink last night?

Ron: Beer.

Laura: How many beers?

Ron: Like eight or nine, probably.

Laura: What?

Laura: Nice beers.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Did you have any towaca?

Ron: No.

Ron: Didn't do any shots?

Ron: I didn't do shots.

Laura: Tuaca is not really a shot, though.

Laura: Not really?

Ron: Why?

Laura: Well, because it's just shots are, like, horrible things.

Ron: Yeah, but like no, a shot is just 25 millilitres of something.

Laura: Yeah, well, I have 30 millilitres of Taka and then it's not as short as it.

Ron: What are we talking about?

Laura: Your face.

Laura: Ron, you have put in the notes possible detentron of the slinky thing.

Ron: I didn't put that in the notes.

Laura: You must have done.

Ron: I didn't think I did.

Laura: You edited the episode and I haven't listened to it.

Laura: So who else did?

Ron: Well, I also wouldn't have had the wherewithal to put in mention that pop twist.

Laura: I just added that.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Your notes that you said you tried hard on were possible detention of the slinky thing.

Laura: And what do you think our worst episode was?

Ron: A contender.

Ron: It's a three parter.

Ron: That's why I was going to say at the top, it's a three parter.

Ron: At the beginning of every part, we talk for, like, ten minutes about something else.

Laura: Why are you sabotaging the podcast from the inside?

Ron: I'm not.

Ron: It makes us seem vulnerable and nice.

Laura: I think it makes us seem vulnerable.

Laura: So people are sort of scared to stop listening in case we just fall off a cliff on purpose.

Laura: That's not the listenership you want, Ron?

Laura: I don't think we want people to.

Ron: Feel like I think we want codependency with us.

Laura: Listeners listening to the podcast is all they've got.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: Why sugarcoat it?

Laura: I think we're supposed to make it so people listen to the podcast because we're cool and they feel cool by association.

Laura: Not like the listeners are our last lifeline.

Ron: But we're not cool.

Ron: We're squatting in a hutch.

Ron: A hutch that's alive with nature.

Ron: The microphones on Volo's Guide to Monsters.

Ron: We're not cool.

Laura: That's not our book.

Laura: That's husband of the podcast.

Ron: But I covered it greatly.

Laura: Steal it.

Laura: He'll never notice.

Laura: So yeah.

Laura: What do you think?

Laura: And why was it this one?

Laura: Hey, if you want more of this and more of us, then join the patreon.

Laura: Three pounds a month and so much.

Ron: Bloody content on there now.

Laura: So much content there.

Laura: There was a new pop quiz out Friday.

Laura: I got tested with some actual questions.

Ron: And turns out the actual questions are.

Laura: Easier than way easier than Ron's.

Laura: Not even a competition.

Laura: Even though it was because it was a quiz.

Laura: Yes.

Laura: And we're back next week into the calm, calm waters of biology, which is a mystery to everyone at the moment because it's not yet edited.

Laura: So how fun is that?

Laura: It's a deadline now.

Laura: The seven day deadline is ticking down on a big red clock in the corner.

Ron: For you to edit it.

Ron: Yeah.

Ron: You just really looked at me.

Ron: Do I need to say something?

Laura: No.

Laura: Always.

Laura: Yeah, but you're looking at your phone.

Ron: Yeah, I've got the patron.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: We're not doing that bit yet though, are we?

Ron: Why not?

Laura: Talking about something else wrong.

Laura: I was getting it ready.

Laura: F*** me.

Ron: But that's what we do.

Laura: What do you mean, that's what we do?

Ron: That's part of this segment.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: So get it up when we're doing it.

Ron: I am.

Laura: Think I'm quite mad at you that you're leaving.

Ron: Yeah.

Laura: Coming out in these.

Ron: You tend to resent.

Laura: Yeah.

Laura: Especially you.

Laura: Iron vent, you.

Ron: I'm sorry.

Laura: Just do it.

Ron: Just go.

Laura: Just do the roll.

Laura: Wasn't money.

Laura: You leave it anyway.

Laura: Okay.

Ron: Thanks, Tom.

Ron: Maybe official fact checker of the podcast.

Ron: Official fact checker of the podcast scrolling.

Ron: They're still working their way through episode one, sentence one.

Ron: And there will be some time.

Ron: And will be there for some time.

Ron: Thank you to Scott cleans out.

Ron: Well, you haven't copied me.

Laura: I wrote them.

Ron: That's not true.

Ron: I wrote them.

Laura: I had to edit them because you said, I'm doing a bit where I'm too tired to write them properly and you'd given everyone dog s*** jobs.

Laura: I had to rewrite them to make sure everyone actually had a nice job.

Ron: No, they weren't mean jobs.

Laura: You said Robert was an electron and that was it.

Laura: That was the end of it.

Laura: That was quite funny.

Ron: You really laughed at the bob quick.

Laura: It's not kind to people who've queued up to get a job.

Ron: So just read him out, Scott.

Ron: He cleans out the sawdust and cool guy stuff.

Laura: Read it more.

Ron: Allegedly, Ron sits in a small crate in the garden.

Ron: Cheryl Turner.

Ron: Now, my one for Cheryl Turner this morning was cheryl Turner is in charge of popping the quiz.

Ron: Maybe there isn't dog f****** in the background.

Ron: My parents dog has been f****** mackie raw this week.

Ron: It's horrible.

Ron: Everywhere you look, just a little red rocket poking her in the air.

Ron: Sorry, Cheryl.

Ron: Cheryl Turner.

Ron: Person who records all the sound effects that we use on the podcast is former Miss Chicken Impersonator 1992.

Ron: And finally, the biggest thanks of all, maybe to Robert Barker.

Ron: He's the union representative for electrons, currently campaigning against the smear campaign, as the world calling them the Sad Boys.

Ron: Hey, they're not always sad.

Ron: He unfortunately cannot do the work pro bono.

Ron: F*** does that mean?

Laura: Proton.

Ron: Then you should have said proton bono.

Laura: Maybe you should have.

Ron: Sparred.

Laura: Goodbye, everyone.

Ron: We hope you love us.

Laura: No, that's not the classmate.

Laura: Say it again.

Ron: Cluster Smith.