Laura: Hello and welcome to another episode of Lexx Education, the comedy podcast where comedian me Laura Lexx tries to learn science from her nerdy younger brother, Ron.
Ron: Hello, I'm Ron.
Laura: Hey, Ron.
Ron: How's it going?
Laura: Oh, God, the sun came out.
Laura: Oh my God, it's so bright.
Laura: I'm fine.
Laura: Yeah, I'm okay.
Laura: I'm very tired, Ron.
Laura: It's been like a two weeks straight of working 12 hours a day and I've got three more days and then I've got a day and a half off.
Ron: Nice.
Laura: How are you?
Ron: Yeah, I'm good.
Ron: I'm very busy as well.
Ron: But that's just being a grown up, isn't it?
Ron: Just perpetually being tired.
Laura: Pretty much fun.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: So, welcome to this week's episode.
Laura: Now listen, we've got a couple of disclaimers up top, one that felt like there were even more niche references to Laura and Ron's specific childhood in this episode.
Ron: Like what?
Laura: Like the concrete tubes we used to play.
Ron: I don't know if that's a reference.
Ron: It's more of a charming childhood vignette.
Laura: Yeah, but just to say, hey, get on board early with that.
Laura: And then also, just before we jump into the episode, we just wanted to say this week's episode is about coronary heart disease.
Laura: And obviously we're just sticking to the syllabus.
Laura: We don't go out of our way to be insensitive, but it is a lighthearted podcast and we are our usual selves around the subject of what is a very serious subject.
Laura: So bear in mind that if heart attacks or heart disease are likely to be a bit close to the bone for you, might be just best to skip this episode because we're not going out of our way to be bastards, obviously, but we're also not talking about it solemnly, so you do you ron is nodding.
Ron: Oh, sorry, did it get a bit.
Laura: Sincere and Ron didn't know how to cope again?
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: F****** worm.
Laura: Okay, cool.
Laura: Not many announcements up top, so go have fun, enjoy your lives.
Laura: We adore you.
Laura: No, listen to the podcast.
Laura: That's what I'm saying.
Laura: It's not the end.
Ron: Why?
Laura: It's Biology day.
Ron: Hello.
Laura: Let's get biology.
Laura: Gonna get biology.
Laura: Do you know why that's a great song to sing, Ron?
Ron: Because we're studying biology today and the.
Laura: Song is called let's Get Physical.
Ron: Yeah, I know.
Ron: It's ong, isn't it?
Laura: It is, yeah.
Ron: Right, Laura, you need to do a lot of the heavy lifting in this episode, okay?
Laura: I do the heavy lifting every bloody week, mate.
Ron: I need nonsense, I need singing, I need metaphors.
Laura: Why is that?
Laura: Is it boring today?
Laura: Is it bad biology?
Ron: No, it was not boring.
Ron: But today, add whimsical sound effect, we're going to be looking at coronary heart disease.
Laura: Coronary heart disease.
Laura: Is heart disease made with mayonnaise, a little bit of saltanas and some turmeric?
Ron: Yes.
Ron: You can get it for £3.50 from waitress.
Ron: I made my own coronation chicken once.
Ron: Yeah, it was amazing because I just didn't put the raisins in yeah.
Laura: Why would you ever put raisins?
Laura: Because all raisins does to my head is make me think I've had a bad bit of chicken.
Laura: I like chicken.
Ron: Especially when the raisins have been in there for ages and then they've swollen up with the juices.
Laura: Did you ever listen to Danny Champion of the World when he soaked the raisins in rum and then slipped them open and put sleeping powder in them?
Ron: Yes.
Laura: Amazing amount of effort to go see for a pheasant.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: A ghost boy.
Ron: That's Jeremy Islands for you, though.
Laura: That was my favourite bit of that audiobook.
Ron: I like the bit where they tickle the fish.
Laura: Oh, yeah.
Ron: Good book.
Laura: All in all, a very good story, isn't it?
Laura: So weird.
Ron: Right?
Ron: Coronary heart disease.
Laura: Oh, yeah.
Laura: We were learning about the heart last time, weren't we?
Ron: We were indeed.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: There were rooms.
Laura: The ball bags of the torso, the.
Ron: Ball bags of the to.
Laura: Oh, my God.
Laura: Ron, I went to a wedding this weekend, a few weeks ago.
Laura: By the time people are listening to this and we were talking about, can you get your balls back in your body?
Ron: No.
Laura: See, that was the reaction of several of the guests at this wedding.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: That's a weird question to ask people.
Laura: I didn't ask it.
Laura: It came up, I can't remember how.
Laura: And then some people went off and tried it and they could, but they didn't know before.
Ron: So coronary heart disease.
Laura: So I'm saying is, you go to the lean out, see if you can do it, and if you can, you're having chlorination chicken.
Ron: But what do you mean by backup?
Ron: Inside your body, there's a little, like.
Laura: Cove that you can pop them in.
Ron: No, they don't have a dock.
Laura: They do, they do, they do.
Ron: They don't believe that to be true.
Laura: They do.
Laura: Honestly, read the reddit threads that I read at this wedding.
Laura: So sorry for the bride and groove.
Laura: We were just sitting in the corner reading threads about testicles, but lots of people can, and sometimes they just jump up in there on their own.
Ron: So coronary heart disease.
Ron: Do you know what that is, Laura?
Laura: When your arteries get clogged and you can't pump pump after no, pump it up.
Laura: But you know pump it up.
Ron: Do you know which arteries?
Laura: The pulmonary artery.
Ron: Don't just guess.
Laura: The vein of Carver.
Ron: Not an artery.
Laura: Well, that's the only artery I've written down.
Ron: It's not an artery.
Ron: It's called the vein of Carver.
Laura: I said pulmonary artery, first of all.
Ron: Yeah, but do you know what pulmonary means?
Ron: Squamous of the lungs.
Laura: Yeah, but it's like the motorway between the heart and the lungs.
Laura: Yeah, it's like the M one between.
Ron: Not think about what coronary might mean.
Ron: Like a corona.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: A circle.
Ron: No.
Laura: A crown.
Ron: No.
Ron: What's a corona?
Laura: A beer?
Laura: A disease.
Laura: A star.
Laura: I don't know.
Ron: The corona is like the bit around the star.
Ron: Like the light that comes off the star.
Laura: Right.
Ron: So coronary heart disease is when the arteries around the heart that actually feed the heart get blocked.
Laura: Yeah, but I didn't write down what they're called, so I can't tell you.
Ron: Yeah, but I didn't use their name just then, I just communicated it with other words.
Ron: Not just the four words that you wrote down last time.
Laura: Well, I didn't know what corona meant either.
Laura: Corona.
Laura: So is that what corona means?
Ron: Yeah, it's called the coronavirus because it has all these proteins on the outside of it that point outwards.
Laura: Chicken disease.
Laura: He loves it when I say that chicken is protein.
Laura: Right.
Laura: So all the arteries around the outside.
Ron: Of the heart the arteries around the outside of the heart get blocked.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: Arteries get blocked.
Laura: Yup.
Laura: Okay, so all the blood gets backlogged into the heart?
Ron: No, it's not the arteries that take blood in and out of the heart, it's the arteries that feed the heart with blood.
Laura: Oh, so there's no heart in your blood?
Laura: No other way around?
Laura: No blood in your heart?
Ron: No, it's not about whether blood gets into the heart or not.
Ron: It's the arteries that feed like, the muscles of the heart, the heart walls.
Laura: Oh, so the heart can't pump?
Ron: Yes.
Laura: So the blood is fine.
Laura: I understand the blood is fine in the heart sitting there in its seat, ready to go.
Laura: Oh, look at us in the clavicle.
Laura: But the heart can't squelch it about.
Ron: Yeah, essentially.
Laura: Sorry, there's been an engine failure.
Laura: I'm imagining all the blood coming in and it puts its seatbelt on, ready to go.
Laura: Sit down there.
Laura: Like, shouldn't I train a bluff by now?
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Shouldn't we have been into the next pormonary ventiskball by now?
Laura: Oh, we're going to have to get a real replacement heart.
Laura: Bloody h***.
Laura: What's wrong with this country?
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: So this is the kind of interruptions you wanted today?
Ron: Yes.
Ron: More of these, please.
Ron: Do you know what they get blocked up with?
Laura: Fat.
Laura: Yes, fatty cholesterol.
Ron: Only bad cholesterol, though.
Laura: Only bad cholesterol.
Ron: There are two different types of cholesterol delicious and broccoli.
Ron: These are called plaques.
Laura: Oh.
Laura: Like teeth.
Laura: Plaque.
Ron: And they're called plaque.
Ron: They build up in the walls of the arteries, essentially.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: Bacon and stuff gets stuck.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Actually under the surface of the artery, in the wall of it.
Ron: It's not like a blockage in the pipe.
Laura: You can't just send like a scour through and scrape it off.
Ron: Exactly, yeah.
Ron: Because they are built in.
Laura: All right.
Ron: Everyone has some of these to a certain degree.
Ron: They narrow the artery and they decrease the flow.
Ron: Blood, the mechanism that builds them is a natural part of artery repair, essentially.
Ron: So your arteries are under quite high pressure all the time.
Ron: See, they're the ones that are taking blood away from the heart, the freshly pumped blood.
Ron: So at that point it's like shooting out like a rocket right?
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Lots of pressure on the artery.
Ron: This can cause damage sometimes.
Ron: And this is why high blood pressure is bad for you.
Laura: That's why you need good mental health care in the workplace.
Laura: If somebody was taking these arteries off every couple of days and saying, like, Is the workload okay?
Laura: How are you feeling?
Laura: You all right?
Laura: Then everything would be better.
Laura: But if you just give some bacon and go, there you go.
Laura: Chew yourself up.
Laura: Leo then that's when they start to break down.
Ron: Leo yeah.
Laura: I was imagining a worker who is getting really stressed.
Ron: Leo the archery.
Ron: Yes.
Laura: I should have gone for, like, arthur the artery.
Laura: Art the artery.
Ron: No.
Ron: Leo now?
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: So this is why having high blood pressure is bad for you.
Ron: Because the higher the blood pressure, you cause more damage to the lining of your arteries.
Ron: Essentially.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Because the blood's going through it too hard.
Laura: Wearing it away.
Ron: Yeah, kind of.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: And then, as I said, it's a.
Laura: Very low blood pressure.
Ron: That's nice.
Laura: You can eat as much salt as you know that.
Laura: I lose my vision when I stand up.
Ron: Cool.
Ron: It's a natural mechanism to repair your arteries when you're a caveman, just, like, going around chewing on sticks and eating river beds or whatever cavemen do, it's fine.
Ron: Right.
Ron: Because all you're kind of eating is grit and nonsense.
Ron: However, in the modern world, where we're eating, like, chips and fried sauces and, you know, millions and stuff like that, there's too much fat, and then the system goes into overdrive.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: They say avocados are fatty.
Laura: That's what we mean by good fat.
Laura: That's the stuff that's not building up your artery wall.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: So this is from Alevel.
Ron: So it's not necessarily so.
Ron: I haven't researched it.
Ron: But there's two different types of ways cholesterol can get around your body.
Ron: HDLs and LDLs, which is high density and low density lipoproteins, I think it's called.
Ron: So it's basically like these little balls that go around.
Ron: And the low density ones, they're the bad ones.
Ron: That comes from bad fat.
Ron: The high density ones are the good ones because it's high density.
Ron: H is for healthy HDL.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: And then they take fats away from you.
Ron: They take fats, like, out of your blood.
Laura: So what do you have to eat to get the fats out of your blood?
Laura: Like, if you've got high blood pressure and you've got fatty arteries, what do you have to do to calm that down?
Ron: You know, like special K ketamin.
Laura: That feels like bad medical advice.
Ron: That's good enough for horses.
Ron: Horses are huge, and they're always eating.
Laura: Chips and flying sauces.
Laura: Imagine a horse eating millions.
Laura: Oh, it's so toothy, isn't it?
Laura: You like it?
Laura: All my teeth.
Ron: I've been thinking a lot about food recently because I'm trying to eat better, and I've been going to the gym and stuff, and I look at some of the things that I'll pick them up in the shop now.
Ron: And I'll be like, no, don't buy that one, don't buy that one.
Ron: It's just like, why the f*** was I eating some of this stuff as a child?
Ron: Why was a bowl of cocoa Pops ever given to a child?
Ron: Yeah, like, that's mad.
Laura: Because as a child, it's just like, yeah, get loads of energy and who cares?
Laura: They're just going to, like, power up.
Ron: But it's just like, that's a pudding.
Ron: Why are you having pudding for breakfast every day?
Laura: You wait till you've got a child that you just want to shut up for a while.
Laura: Maybe like, here you go.
Ron: No, that child will never taste sugar.
Laura: Taylor Glenn, one of fantastic comedian, drunk womenself and crime podcast.
Laura: She used to have a bit of material where she said that she was like, before I had a child, I was like, no sugar, no screens.
Laura: I want to raise this child properly.
Laura: And they said and then the other day I served her a piece of cake on the iPad because I thought it would buy me a bit more time.
Laura: She'd have to eat the cake first to get the screen time.
Ron: No, that's good.
Ron: I don't want a child that sounds like a nightmare.
Ron: I'm frustrated of owning a cat.
Ron: Right.
Ron: Students should be able to evaluate the advantages and disadvantages of treating cardiovascular diseases by drugs, mechanical devices or transplant.
Laura: This feels heavy for teaching 15 year olds.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Jeez.
Laura: Isn't there anything else about plants they could be learning?
Laura: They want to be like Gray's Anatomy.
Laura: Just on a Tuesday morning science lesson.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: You learn about the heart and it's like, whoa, the wonders of biology.
Ron: And then it's like and this is how you can f*** it up.
Laura: Irritable s***, by the way.
Laura: Do you eat mayonnaise by the spoonful?
Laura: Because here's what's happening on the inside.
Ron: You out in the playground, just mainlining millions into your mouth.
Ron: This is what's going to happen to you.
Laura: Are you a horse?
Laura: You're probably fine.
Ron: They're huge.
Ron: It's good medicine.
Ron: Right?
Ron: So do you know what a stent is?
Laura: Actually?
Laura: I think I might.
Laura: It's a stent.
Laura: Like a little opener that you put in it's like a little.
Ron: Stop doing lewd hand gestures.
Ron: She's happy.
Laura: She's not a lewd I don't know how to describe it, but it's like a little scaffolding for your artery.
Laura: Just like poke it wider.
Ron: Yeah, I think they're tubes quite a lot and you can just put them in and then they hold it open.
Ron: The blood can flow through freely.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: All right.
Laura: I have heard of a stent, yes.
Ron: Nice.
Ron: It doesn't tell us any of the advantages or disadvantages of this.
Laura: All right, let's make them up then.
Laura: So advantage.
Laura: Everybody loves tubes.
Laura: Did were the tubes still there by our house when you were a kid or are they gone by then?
Ron: Oh, yeah, the tubes were there.
Ron: They were dope.
Laura: Yeah, just down by our house, there was like some wasteland and then there were just these massive concrete tubes that you could play in.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: And there was like a bit of stagnant water next to them and it looked kind of like a secret lagoon.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Don't speak.
Ron: Anyway, endless entertainment.
Laura: So good.
Laura: So that's a stent negatives.
Laura: It's probably open heart surgery to get that in, isn't it?
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: So that's difficult.
Ron: And if they put it in the wrong vein, then well, that's a positive.
Laura: Because then you can sue and millions yeah.
Ron: To leave to your loved ones.
Laura: Also a positive.
Laura: It's just a one off.
Laura: Just done.
Laura: Now tubes in.
Ron: Tubes in.
Laura: And I have to remember to take ketamine every other day.
Ron: You don't forget.
Ron: OK.
Ron: Statins.
Ron: Do you know what statins are?
Laura: Do you know dad started listening to our podcast?
Ron: No.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: He started on episode two, though, because he was listening to it in the car with Mum and I told him there was the prickly bag of Gooji.
Laura: Don't listen to him.
Laura: Statins.
Laura: It sounds like it comes from static electricity.
Laura: So I'm thinking like, it's charged things that get in and like, electropulse the fat away.
Ron: Maybe they're drugs that get rid of that decrease the amount of cholesterol and fatty substances in the blood.
Laura: Okay, so drugs that break down fat.
Laura: So they're like antimillions.
Ron: Antimillions, yeah.
Ron: So advantages reduce the risk of a heart attack.
Laura: Great.
Laura: Aren't all of these doing that?
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: What treatment for a heart attack are you going to have?
Laura: They're like, well, it doesn't get anything about the heart attack, but it is a lovely nail varnish.
Ron: Weirdly, that is.
Ron: It's only in the advantages for the drugs.
Ron: In this little table I've got, we.
Laura: Just stumbled upon some massive problems with the health service.
Laura: They have four different options for heart disease, but only one of them helps.
Laura: If we just uncovered a massive conspiracy.
Ron: I think it might be because the other ones come in post heart attack.
Ron: So it's like you've already biffed it.
Ron: Maybe the next one on the list is a heart transplant.
Ron: And I don't think they do that in a preventative.
Ron: Like, you might be fine, but let's just whack a new one in there while we're here.
Ron: I don't think they do that.
Laura: Even if you're a real baddie and they're like, you've been really mean to everybody, we're going to give you a new heart and see if it makes you nicer.
Ron: No, I think with baddies they're like, you've been a real meanie, so we're going to let you maybe have a heart attack.
Ron: We're going to give this heart to this nun.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Anyway, studies have shown an increase in bad cholesterol.
Laura: I know it's a callback to last episode six, but it was like, imagine being a buddy and you turn up your trial, you're like, I wonder if I'll get found innocent or sentenced to death.
Laura: And then a guy comes in.
Laura: Who are you?
Laura: Oh, I'll be doing your voice after you've died.
Laura: Probably have to cut that bit out.
Ron: That was a good thing.
Laura: Yeah, that was a good bit.
Laura: I mean, who's listening to episode 19 without having heard 18?
Laura: That would be crazy.
Ron: That would be mad.
Ron: I was just editing episode 15, famously, and there's one bit where we're just riffing off the name Om, as in, like, resistance, and then YouTube's going, OOH, I'm ten.
Ron: Really makes me laugh every time.
Laura: We are good.
Laura: It's going to be just us listening to this in a few months.
Laura: Basically making a podcast for ourselves to listen to, like, absolute narcissuses.
Ron: Right, okay, we need to get on because this is my lunch breakins.
Laura: I hope the next one also is a stir stab dubules.
Laura: We're still on heart transplant?
Laura: No, we missed heart transplant.
Ron: Yeah, we will be there.
Ron: Straight transplant studies have shown a decrease in bad cholesterol and an increase in good cholesterol when you have statins.
Ron: Used to reduce high cholesterol levels.
Ron: Used.
Ron: Not used to.
Ron: Used to reduce high cholesterol levels that have genetic causes.
Ron: May have beneficial effects on other conditions.
Ron: Cheap to administer.
Laura: Statins are cheap.
Ron: Lots of good stuff there with statins, right?
Ron: Yeah, bad stuff.
Ron: Hang on a second.
Ron: I just need to go make sure that no water's coming in through open windows.
Laura: Is it raining?
Ron: Yeah, apparently.
Ron: Although I can't see it raining.
Ron: But Judith just texted me because we're staying in her aunt and uncle's house.
Ron: Okay, you just rip on statins.
Ron: I'll be back.
Laura: I'm the statman.
Laura: That could be the heroin in Mulan Gruj heart, like if you made the NUM skulls.
Laura: But about things to do with heart disease.
Laura: Do you like statin or stilk briefs?
Laura: I've always found statin a bit a bit slippery.
Laura: Statin.
Laura: Statin.
Laura: Maybe like starlin.
Laura: If you accidentally crossed the L in Stalin, then that would be so, you know, a kind of oh, this is good.
Laura: I now run Russia.
Laura: Hello.
Laura: Clear.
Laura: Your heart says now we must all work together.
Ron: Hello.
Laura: Can you guess what's happening?
Ron: I now run Russia.
Ron: I've cleared your heart disease and everything.
Ron: All work together.
Ron: Is that what you said?
Laura: Yup.
Ron: Yeah, no, I do what bit that is.
Ron: I can't wait to find out.
Ron: There are some disadvantages to statin.
Ron: So long.
Laura: Yeah, they're communists, okay.
Ron: They're not suitable for people with liver disease.
Laura: Oh, no.
Ron: There are some side effects.
Ron: That's all it says.
Laura: Brilliant.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Must be taken for life.
Laura: Oh, s***.
Laura: So once you get a stat independency, if you get rid of them, then that's the breakdown of the whole communist bloc, apparently.
Laura: America will never forgive you and should.
Ron: Not be taken if pregnant or breastfeeding.
Laura: Uhoh, but I only eat breasts.
Ron: It's the best meat.
Ron: The breast meat is the best meat.
Laura: The breast meat is the best meat.
Laura: What was that from?
Laura: The fox busters?
Laura: D*** Kingsmith.
Laura: Yeah, dicking.
Laura: What a good name.
Laura: It's just out there in Plains, like your whole childhood, wasn't it?
Laura: And you were allowed to say it.
Laura: Dicking Smith.
Laura: Who's your favourite author, Dicking?
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: I guess from his perspective, though, the other option would have been to be called Rich Kingsmith, which maybe would have made him sound a bit like an.
Laura: A****** or somebody who's really good at forging kings.
Laura: Out of iron.
Ron: Commercially savvy.
Ron: Right.
Ron: So that's statins in some people heart valves may become faulty, preventing the valve from opening fully, or the heart valve might develop a leak.
Ron: That makes me feel gross.
Laura: Yeah, imagine that, just a leak growing in your heart.
Ron: I'm going to make a joke about Welsh people, but it doesn't materialise.
Ron: Students should be able to should understand the consequences of faulty valves.
Ron: Faulty heart valves can be replaced using biological or mechanical valves.
Laura: Yeah, you can have a pig valve, can't you?
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Poor pigs.
Ron: Yeah, which always found a little bit weird, because it's like valves is something that we've worked out.
Ron: Like a liver.
Ron: We don't have mechanical livers.
Ron: You can't buy a liver down at the shop and have it on your desk.
Ron: Not a mechanical one.
Ron: No, but a valve.
Ron: Like there's a valve in an airbed.
Laura: You don't want an airbed because airbeds, famously have terrible valves.
Laura: They go down all the time.
Ron: Don't get me wrong.
Ron: Like, airbed's not real.
Ron: But what I'm saying is, if I'm.
Laura: Looking at a pig in an airbed and somebody says, look, this is the thing that's going to keep you alive, I'll go for what the pig's got.
Laura: Pigs are hardy.
Ron: I don't know, though, if you would.
Laura: Because you want to smell like an airbed.
Ron: You want to smell like a dead pig.
Laura: It wouldn't be dead, that bit, that would be in me.
Laura: I'm keeping that line exactly.
Ron: It's drenched in pig blood.
Laura: Lovely.
Ron: You're an inventor, Laura.
Ron: Obviously, if you were making one of your fantastical inventions, and for some reason.
Laura: You needed all my inventions by the.
Ron: Way, I'm being positive right now.
Laura: No, you're not.
Laura: Everybody knows from the tone that you do not think I'm an inventor.
Ron: But one of your cool inventions, if you decided to use a pig valve for that machine instead of a mechanical one, people would think you were crazy.
Laura: Yes, but people always thought the best people were crazy.
Laura: Everybody that's ever been cool, everybody else at the time, is like too straight laced and you're crazy.
Laura: You can't draw a face with eyes up there and a nose over there.
Laura: What's that?
Ron: Boom.
Laura: It's 2022 and we love Picasso.
Ron: Hey, that's not true.
Ron: Everyone loved Picasso when he was alive.
Ron: That's just what the school shooters want you to think.
Ron: Oh, do we just no, but it's just like, oh, I'm misunderstood in my own time.
Ron: Everybody loves people after they're dead.
Ron: No, everyone knows who the cool people are.
Laura: Don't say that, because then I've been in this career for 13 years, and the reaction I'm getting is warranted rather than I'm just biting my tongue.
Ron: It's just like, I don't think Elvis was trotting around like, nobody likes me.
Ron: It's like, no, it was huge.
Laura: Elvis was fine, but he was very mainstream, you know?
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: What about Gallipoli?
Laura: Not Gallipoli.
Laura: Who was the one that got killed for knowing about the planet?
Ron: Galileo.
Laura: Yes, I knew it was Galileo something.
Laura: Galileo.
Laura: What about him?
Ron: He was renowned at his time.
Ron: Big enough.
Laura: They p***** off four people.
Ron: Yeah, because there were only, like, six people in Italy at the time.
Ron: Hundreds of years ago.
Laura: No, listen, shut up, please.
Laura: I am an inventor.
Ron: I'm not trying to anyway, I haven't.
Laura: Even said I'm an inventor.
Laura: I said I'm good at coming up with solutions for things, but not computer stuff.
Laura: And therefore, had I been alive in a time of wheelbarrows and wood rather than microchips and silicon, I think I would have been a good inventor.
Ron: And I'm agreeing with you.
Ron: I'm trying to talk about it on your level.
Laura: I think someone would be very impressed with me for what are we even talking about anymore?
Laura: Someone would be very impressed with me for having got a valve out of a pig, I think.
Laura: What are you talking about?
Laura: What is a valve anyway?
Laura: Just a flap.
Ron: A valve.
Laura: Who the h*** has ever seen a flap and gone, Brilliant.
Laura: Well done, Ron, you've made a flap.
Laura: Whereas if I was like, look what I just got out of a pig, people would be like, Sorry, Ron, your sister is right.
Laura: She is a genius.
Laura: Can you take your flap away now?
Ron: Very resourceful, using all of the animals, using these valves with our machine.
Laura: Oh, I'd have used the rest of the pig for something else, like some trotter candlesticks, black pudding, give the ears to dogs, bladder can be a football, all the stuff.
Ron: Yeah, it's this kind of resourcefulness that makes you a world class inventor.
Laura: You can f*** yourself, Ron, because I'm not engaging with this.
Laura: That apple sorta was good and it would have worked as well.
Laura: And I don't even know why you are wonky about it.
Ron: I'm trying to praise you right now.
Laura: You're just me, you're not trying to break no one thinks you're praising me.
Ron: I said, you're a world class inventor.
Laura: F*** off.
Laura: Do you want to in the episode now or do you want to be pleasant and kind?
Laura: What have you ever invented?
Ron: I'm not an inventor.
Ron: I leave that to the professionals.
Ron: Like you misunderstood in their own time.
Ron: Like Galileo.
Laura: Yeah, I am.
Laura: Thank you.
Ron: Anyway, advantages of replacing heart valves mechanically or piggly, depending on your choice.
Ron: Advantages restore blood flow through the heart.
Laura: I don't think you can just put the advantages are it does the thing we're aiming to do.
Laura: That's not an advantage or a disadvantage.
Laura: Because if it didn't do that one advantage on the list wouldn't be a food.
Ron: Eating an orange does not help.
Ron: But not invasive.
Laura: Like this list could be massive.
Laura: Just everything you've ever thought of doing.
Laura: Disadvantage, it does not help with heart.
Ron: Disease, but it doesn't hurt so it gets on the list.
Ron: Less risk of complications in surgery than a transplant.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: Disadvantages, the biological valves may wear out.
Ron: Pigs don't live forever.
Laura: Also the pigs will seek revenge.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Who knows which bits of our bodies they're going to be using when they rise.
Laura: We've all read Animal Farm.
Laura: We know Napoleon's coming for us.
Ron: Oh yeah.
Ron: We're going to be sent off to make glue.
Ron: Blood clock.
Laura: Now I've made some really unhelpful notes.
Laura: Blood clots bio replacements will seek us out, will wear out.
Ron: Blood clots may stick to mechanical valves.
Laura: Oh, that nasty.
Ron: Antiblood clotting drugs need to be taken which increase risk of further illness.
Laura: Oh, f*** this.
Laura: I'm not having a heart valve transplant.
Laura: Yeah, clots as well.
Laura: Yuck.
Ron: Just seems long, doesn't it?
Laura: Oh yeah, I don't know.
Ron: Okay.
Laura: There's something so disgusting about blood clots.
Laura: Slippery little now I'm thinking about, you know when you don't quite mix gravy up well enough and you get like a little slug of gravy?
Ron: I think that's what it's like.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: I love those though.
Laura: Salty little if blood tasted salty, mine probably does.
Laura: I love salt.
Ron: No, it tastes like iron.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Because of metal.
Ron: Because of metal, yes.
Ron: In some people.
Ron: No.
Ron: In case of heart failure, a donor heart or heart and lung donut.
Ron: Heart donor you know like one of the ones you get on a stick that rotates slowly.
Laura: Yeah, like a ron doing the jokes.
Laura: Or donor heart.
Ron: A donor heart or a heart.
Ron: And lungs can be transplanted.
Laura: Well, would you just transplant the whole lot?
Laura: Take lungs out as well, even if they're good?
Ron: That's what it says in this sentence.
Laura: Just a two for one package.
Laura: Yeah, well, we're in here mate, we might as well spruce up the old alveolis.
Ron: Look mate, there's loads of f****** tubes.
Ron: We're just going to take the load out.
Ron: Artificial hearts are occasionally used to keep patients alive whilst waiting for a heart transplant or to allow the heart to rest as an aid to recovery.
Laura: What?
Ron: So I think what you can do is you can just have all of the blood coming out, getting pumped around by an artificial heart going back in and then your heart can just chill for a bit.
Laura: Wow, I wonder how the heart feels about that.
Ron: Well, hearts are famously quite emotional so probably feels a lot about it.
Laura: Yeah, I bet it's that thing like when you've got burnout, like I'm a workaholic and at first I find it very hard to stop working, but then after a while you're like, it is nice having other things in your life.
Ron: Yeah, I don't know, I've never really been a workaholic.
Laura: No, I don't know.
Laura: You cheque the listener.
Laura: Stats for this podcast quite a lot.
Laura: That's the beginnings of it, I think.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: But I don't really action anything.
Laura: No, that's all me.
Ron: Yeah, I do all this great research.
Laura: Tom is away at the moment, so I force myself to have an hour off work every day.
Laura: That's when I play minecraft smart.
Laura: Otherwise, I just work from the minute I get up.
Laura: What if I walk the dog?
Laura: I don't work then.
Ron: Yeah, I think I'd be a lot more like that if I worked for myself.
Ron: But because I work like a nine to five, as soon as it hits 05:00, I'm like, F*** you, you're not paying me for this time.
Ron: I am out and then I leave.
Laura: Smart.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: I am thinking about work a lot.
Ron: Very good at my job.
Ron: Right.
Ron: We've done these bits.
Ron: We've done people with very high blood pressure, maybe prescribed medicines to help lower it.
Ron: Oh, no, we need that statin.
Ron: No, wait, no, we need to do the pros and cons of a transplant.
Laura: Oh, God, it's a lot, isn't it?
Laura: It's a lot.
Laura: That's the cons.
Laura: It's a lot.
Laura: You have to kill a pig.
Laura: Scars.
Laura: No, you don't use you might reject the heart.
Ron: I don't think very often you use pig hearts for a whole transplant.
Laura: That would be really cool.
Ron: Some people have pig hearts, but I don't think very many.
Ron: Usually they just use a human heart.
Laura: All right.
Ron: Take them from people that are getting killed for petty crimes.
Ron: Oh, no, they're cutting my heart out with a spoon.
Laura: It does hurt more.
Laura: It was right.
Ron: Advantages.
Ron: Improves quality of life and can be lifesaving now.
Laura: Oh, s***.
Laura: Oh, my God.
Laura: These positives and negatives are so stupid.
Laura: You know that thing we're talking about?
Laura: It does that to be fair.
Ron: It doesn't say that it reduces the risk of heart attack.
Ron: And it doesn't say that it restores blood flow to the heart.
Laura: So you'd be having a heart attack every 20 minutes.
Laura: You will still be alive through it.
Laura: Great.
Ron: And then disadvantages.
Ron: It says few donor hearts are available, but then it's like you only need one.
Ron: So if there's a few available, it's fine.
Laura: So they have to be a match like blood does.
Ron: I think so.
Ron: I might be wrong.
Ron: You definitely have to take Immunosuppressants all the time.
Laura: Oh, no.
Ron: Yeah, it's not real.
Laura: Stop your body rejecting it.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Worth.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Immunosuppressants are kind of like that little bar code that the person on the self checkout has.
Laura: Keep going.
Laura: No, it's fine.
Laura: No, I said she was over 18.
Ron: Kind of, but it's also just more like if there was a shop that was like, someone's going to come in here today, I promise.
Ron: They're over 18.
Ron: But just so we don't have any trouble, just send all the security home.
Ron: I think it's a bit more like that.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: Recovery time is long.
Laura: Yeah, no s***.
Laura: You had your heart wrenched out and put a new one in.
Laura: I bet they have to break all your ribs to get in there.
Laura: Do they?
Laura: Or do they go in underneath?
Ron: I don't know, slipping between the cranks or something, like an octopus.
Ron: There is a risk of rejection.
Laura: Are we going to learn about octopuses?
Ron: Maybe.
Laura: They're wild, aren't they?
Ron: Several pods.
Laura: I've had to stop eating them since she told me that they were really clever.
Ron: Yeah, they're really clever.
Laura: I used to love calamari.
Laura: It's on the list now.
Ron: Yeah, but you're a vegetarian now.
Ron: You should be eating that anyway.
Laura: Well, I was pescetarian because I just don't really care about fish and prawns.
Laura: They're not really animals, are they?
Laura: They're basically woodlice of the sea.
Ron: Yeah, they are animals.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: But I don't care about them.
Laura: I probably will come to at some point and then even more joy will be stripped for my life.
Laura: God, I hate thinking about things.
Laura: I wish I just didn't think or care.
Laura: I think life will be much better.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Especially because nothing we do really makes any difference.
Laura: No.
Laura: God, it's depressing, isn't it?
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: And you just f***** either way.
Ron: Like, Judith and I are trying so hard not to fly anywhere at the moment, but it's just like the train to Austria is €250, the flight is 60.
Ron: Like, what are you supposed to do?
Laura: And then even if you didn't fly your whole life, f****** Kylie Jenner's taking 17 minutes private jet flights.
Laura: Do you see that thing?
Laura: And you just kind of go like, oh, my God.
Laura: I don't know.
Laura: I feel very despondent about the whole world, Avocrane.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: There is a risk of rejection by the body's immune system, though.
Laura: What a prawn.
Laura: I've had that.
Laura: Shut myself on a dogwalk, mate.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: If you got a heart transplant, your body would probably just be like, oh, everyone rally around this.
Ron: It's from a different body.
Ron: It's the Messiah.
Laura: Tell us about being somewhere with serotonin.
Laura: Naturally.
Laura: Kidneys just hanging out in the ribcage.
Laura: Don't make us go back down there to Laura's natural body board.
Ron: Expensive operation and after care.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: That's heart transplant.
Laura: All right.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: That feels logical.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: The last thing that came up on BBC Bitesized BBC Bitesized, yeah.
Ron: Is a coronary bypass.
Laura: You just don't use the heart at all.
Ron: No, it's an operation in which veins from the patient's legs are grafted into the heart in order to bypass the sections of the coronary artery that are blocked.
Laura: There are four bit like the circuits we were doing last week.
Ron: Ron OOH run it in parallel.
Laura: Yes.
Laura: That's basically what they've thought about there, haven't they?
Laura: Maybe they were doing their physics lecture and suddenly went, this could work in the heart.
Laura: How do your legs carry on after that, though?
Ron: They grow back.
Ron: The thing about your heart is that your heart needs to function 24/7.
Ron: Otherwise you're f*****.
Laura: You can sit down for a bit while you green, you exactly.
Ron: Yeah, yeah.
Laura: All right, all right.
Ron: There are four coronary arteries, so the largest number of grafts is called a quadruple bypass.
Laura: That's what that means.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: How are we doing for time?
Laura: Well, we should be wrapping up probs.
Ron: Great.
Ron: That's everything.
Laura: Okay, well, I feel like the quiz will be quite straightforward.
Laura: There a lot of that was just real stupid.
Ron: What's the advantages of getting treatment for an illness?
Ron: Laura truce.
Ron: The illness.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: I think that's going to be I hope all five questions are that yeah.
Ron: What are we going on to next?
Ron: Because that got dark by the end.
Laura: Aren't we into Halloween next?
Laura: Or was that the Halloween episode?
Ron: No, tomorrow we're recording the Halloween episode.
Laura: Halloween.
Laura: Alright, well, I'll see you shortly for the quiz.
Ron: TADA.
Laura: Okay, recording.
Laura: Ron I just feel like this is going to go very badly because we've actually recorded another episode between this and the pre and this episode.
Laura: So there's even more in the swamp than usual.
Laura: Shrek's got buddies.
Ron: For some reason.
Ron: I was lying awake last night and I came up with what?
Ron: Shrek.
Laura: Can you not even sleep the night before because you're so worried about this?
Ron: I came up with what Shrek would call his autobiography.
Laura: Let me think.
Laura: I don't know, what would it be?
Ron: Autobiography.
Ron: It really made me laugh in the middle of the night.
Ron: Okay, are you ready for the quiz now?
Laura: I was born disinterested and have grown to be ready.
Ron: Can you remember at all what we covered in the last biology?
Laura: I can't, but my handy little notebook can.
Laura: And we did all that sad beans about heart attacks.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: We made it kind of jolly, though.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Oh, we make everything jolly.
Laura: Give us a subject.
Laura: We'll make it fun.
Laura: Don't do that.
Laura: We won't.
Laura: But we might make a fun thing.
Laura: Horrifying.
Laura: So, yeah, heart disease.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: So today there are 123-456-7899 points on offer.
Ron: Okay.
Laura: That's a big quiz.
Laura: Okay, yeah.
Ron: So what are the drugs called that lower the risk of coronary heart disease?
Laura: Statins.
Ron: Ding ding.
Ron: Yep.
Ron: That's the correct answer.
Ron: How many coronary arteries are there?
Laura: The notebook doesn't remember.
Laura: Two.
Laura: One for each side of the heart.
Ron: Bonk bonk.
Ron: No, it's for like a quadruple bypass.
Laura: Oh, yeah.
Laura: I love how against the sound effects you are.
Laura: When I first started editing this and now you started making them yourself.
Ron: Yeah, I'm not against those sound effects.
Ron: But you went very overboard.
Ron: It was like a shock jog.
Ron: It's like crazy iron and the douche.
Laura: I think that's what I liked about it.
Laura: I find it very fun.
Laura: Tom hates it.
Laura: Judith, doesn't she?
Ron: Yeah, she's not a fan.
Laura: Okay, that was a bonk bonk.
Ron: That's fine.
Ron: So you have one for two at the moment.
Ron: The next one is a bit of a longer answer.
Ron: How did the arteries get blocked?
Laura: Salt.
Ron: Now me a moment ago, listener, I said this was going to be a longer answer with a monosyllabic answer.
Ron: Let's see where she goes from here.
Laura: Oh, I've written down that arteries get blocked and then I haven't written down.
Laura: Oh, hang on.
Laura: Now.
Laura: Now then, now then.
Laura: No, wait.
Laura: Was that Jimmy Savile?
Laura: Cut that.
Laura: So when you eat stuff that's got bad cholesterol in it, bad cholesterol has plaque.
Laura: Salt is actually what makes your blood thick.
Laura: I've just remembered.
Laura: Bad cholesterol builds up plaque on the walls of the artery, and it actually is built into the artery, so the arteries themselves thicken.
Laura: So you can't just, like, send a loofer down to scrub it off.
Laura: It's like within the makeup of the artery.
Ron: I'm going to f****** give me the point.
Ron: Quite generously.
Ron: Give you two out of three there, I think.
Laura: Why?
Ron: Because for quite a long time, the first 40% of what you said was nonsense.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Cholesterol doesn't have plaque in it.
Ron: The plaques are made up of cholesterol.
Ron: Don't know where this thing about salt making your blood thick came from.
Laura: We talked about that.
Laura: And then we talked about if you dehydrated and too much salt, your blood the diffusion, remember?
Laura: I swear that was a thing.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: That's in diffusion.
Ron: Like water gets sucked to where the salt is.
Ron: If anything, when you have more salt in your blood, there's more water in there.
Ron: It increases your blood pressure.
Ron: It doesn't make it thick.
Laura: I thought the pressure was up because it was thick.
Ron: No.
Laura: How do you have thick blood, then?
Ron: Who's got thick blood?
Laura: Well, no, I don't know.
Ron: I don't remember ever speaking about thick blood, to be honest.
Laura: Is thick blood not a thing?
Laura: Who's got thick blood?
Laura: Put your hands up.
Ron: People do have to go on blood thinners sometimes.
Laura: There you go.
Laura: So three out of three.
Laura: Thank you.
Ron: No, then you said that it blocks up the artery, but then you did correct yourself and say that it's actually in the walls of the artery.
Ron: So that's good.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: Two out of three.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: All right.
Ron: So the other thing that you would have had to say to get the last mark is that it's part of the natural sort of repair cycle of the artery, and then it goes in.
Laura: You didn't ask me to say that.
Ron: Well, that's how they get blocked by that mechanism, but dietary factors make it go over the top.
Laura: I don't think you said that.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: You can have five points.
Ron: Who, me?
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Because I actually don't think you taught me that stuff.
Ron: I get points.
Laura: Okay, you get half the points I get?
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: You only got two.
Laura: You get five.
Laura: That's algebra, my friend.
Laura: He calls delta Ebin.
Ron: Okay.
Ron: What are the advantages and disadvantages of replacement?
Ron: Heart valve and two of each?
Laura: Well, listen, the pros are you won't die of a heart attack.
Laura: Reduces the risk of a heart attack.
Laura: That's a pro.
Ron: Can you elaborate on that?
Ron: A bit.
Laura: Well, if you need one and you don't have one, you're going to die.
Laura: So if you have one that's good.
Ron: Can you back it up and try again on the elaboration?
Laura: Wait, what am I talking about?
Ron: Heart valves?
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: What more do you want than that?
Laura: God's sake, if you don't have it, you're going to die.
Ron: Everyone's got them, Laura.
Ron: That's not the issue.
Laura: What do you mean everyone's got them?
Laura: A replacement heart valve.
Ron: Everyone's got heart valves.
Ron: Some people are just born with sealed hearts.
Laura: Replacement heart valve?
Ron: Yeah, we are.
Laura: So what are you talking about?
Ron: It's not about replacing ones that people don't have.
Laura: I didn't say that.
Laura: I said if you don't have the replacement and you've got a dodgy ticker, you'll die.
Ron: If you don't have a valve no.
Laura: I know you've all got valves.
Ron: Well, you didn't before you did the episode, so all right.
Laura: No, you don't know anything before we did this.
Laura: I didn't need to know.
Laura: Listen, so if your heart valve isn't working and you don't get it replaced, your heart will give up, won't it?
Ron: You have to meet me halfway.
Ron: You can't just say it'll give up.
Laura: A vowel break, wouldn't it?
Laura: It'll flap off or something.
Laura: Or just stop flapping.
Laura: Or not flapping, whatever.
Laura: The science of flapping is the pulsing.
Ron: Little beating beating for the first time ever.
Ron: Leave this up to the listeners to decide.
Ron: It restores blood flow through the heart because the faulty valves either leak it and then that makes things bad or they don't open properly.
Ron: Do you want to go for the other ones?
Laura: Was that a pro or a cons?
Ron: It restores blood spot.
Ron: That's it.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: Another pro.
Laura: Is it's less risk than doing a whole heart transplant?
Ron: Yep, yep.
Ron: Ding, ding, ding, ding ding.
Ron: Less invasive than a full heart transplant?
Laura: Yes.
Laura: The downside is if you use a pig heart valve, it will just wear out as well, so it might not last forever.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Now, I've written down clots as well and I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing or what it means.
Ron: Think it through.
Ron: How do you feel?
Laura: Well, I'm not sure though, if they're saying that we can use heart valves for blood clots as well.
Ron: I see.
Laura: Or if we're like, it might give you blood clots.
Laura: So what am I looking for?
Laura: Another con?
Laura: It gives you blood clots.
Ron: Taking a little bit further.
Laura: It gives you blood clots.
Laura: Rob.
Ron: All right, no point for that then.
Ron: If you're thinking to pop Bibles level, get out of town.
Ron: No.
Ron: So blood clots can stick to the mechanical valve, so you need to take antiblood clotting drugs all the time.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: The downside is the taking of the drugs.
Ron: Really?
Laura: Because yeah, everybody hates drugs.
Laura: Join a union.
Laura: We haven't told people to join a union in a while, Ron.
Laura: That was our real catchphrase for a while.
Laura: It was join a union.
Ron: Yes.
Ron: So that was three out of four for that.
Ron: So you got seven out of nine.
Laura: Okay.
Laura: Given how long it's been, I'm fine with that.
Ron: Yeah, I don't think that's bad at all.
Laura: Really sound more convincing.
Ron: Oh, good job, Laura.
Laura: Well, Ron, you're absolutely shook your responsibilities there.
Ron: Yeah, I'm not only just shedding catchphrases, but also just shedding segments.
Laura: You have to score me, otherwise I don't know how talented I am.
Ron: Maybe that's the best.
Laura: So, I mean, Ron has given you the power labrads.
Laura: It's up to you how I did there.
Laura: Let us know whether you think I got the points or not.
Laura: Also wanted to say, please, nobody hurt yourselves trying to get your testicles back into your body.
Ron: Nobody even try.
Laura: If you have a medical opinion on whether or not you should be able to do balls have a docking station, let us know.
Laura: But please do not hurt yourself with this or any other experiment.
Laura: There will not be a video of this experiment.
Laura: We won't be taking this further.
Laura: Yes.
Laura: And we wanted to say, hey, you're listening?
Laura: If you're still listening to even this bit of ramble, you love us.
Laura: You love us so hard.
Laura: And the best way you could show us that you love us is to leave us a five star review on a podcast app.
Laura: If you listen on Apple podcast, please leave a five star review and a lovely bit of chat about how much we've changed your lives.
Ron: Yeah, there's a lot of chumps because we work really hard on this and just it doesn't take that long.
Ron: So do your bit.
Laura: Yeah, what Ron said, but nicer.
Laura: And if you listen on Spotify, you can just touch the thing and leave a five star review there.
Laura: You don't even have to write anything out.
Ron: It doesn't take even nearly as long as it takes to make a podcast.
Laura: No, but we did choose to do.
Ron: This, Ron, and they chose to listen.
Laura: Sure.
Laura: Oh, ron's cranky.
Laura: So please leave us a review.
Laura: We really appreciate it.
Laura: And in the battle for ears in the podcast wars, it really helps us to find more people who will love this.
Laura: And that is nice.
Laura: So there you go.
Laura: Now, an announcement.
Laura: Next week, we're jumping briefly off the usual plan.
Laura: For the first time, we're not sticking rigidly to the syllabus.
Laura: Ron, I know you're excited about next week.
Laura: What's happening?
Ron: Spooky lexx education.
Laura: Yeah, it's Halloween, so we are doing a Halloween special of Lexx Education.
Laura: There has never been a better week to spread the word about Lexx Education and get people to have a go.
Laura: Cause obviously we're on episode 19 now and we do recommend you start from the beginning.
Laura: But the Halloween episode is a brilliant taster to say to people, hey, if you've been thinking of looking for a new podcast and you want one, cheque this one out and then they can go back to beginning and join us.
Ron: It's like when they do a TV show and then after, you know, in, like, the third season or something, they kind of do, like, a soft pilot where they do an episode where they focus on someone else, and you're like, well, that's a good little one offer that you could show someone without them being just baffled the whole time.
Laura: Yeah.
Laura: So wrap up next week's episode in Paper and send it to all of your best pals.
Ron: No, go door to door, knock on doors and go door to door and ask people for sweeties and tell them about the podcast while you go.
Laura: Yeah, okay, well, we love you and we'll see you next week for Spooky Halloween week.
Laura: We will be recording in costume and we hope that you listen in costume and we'll see you then.
Laura: We love you.
Laura: Bye.
Ron: Do I say it now?
Laura: Oh, my God.
Laura: How are you?
Laura: Getting worse.
Ron: I honestly don't know if I say it now or when we finished the.
Laura: Letter at the end of the episode, that is when everybody can go about their day.
Ron: Class dismissed.
Laura: Well f****** done.
Ron: See you're.
Ron: Still trying to have the last word, though.
Laura: Go on and say it again.
Ron: Plus.
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