Laura: Hello and welcome to not just another. Ron, why is your shirt so unbuttoned?
Ron: I'm handsome.
Laura: You've got so much chest out. Anyway, hello and welcome to not just another episode of.
Ron: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Laura.
Laura: Ron, this is our centre.
Ron: Yeah, I know. Laura. Laura nips out and it prepared something. So.
Laura: Cuz, why didn't you say that before we started recording that?
Ron: Because then, um, people would need to know what it is that I prepared. So, so it's one I really hope.
Laura: People know that this isn't like a prepared, like, whoa, wait, what? I was doing the inter, and you have interrupted me with a beard. No, this is genuine incompetence.
Ron: So what we're gonna do is after, because it's 100 episodes and we're still failures.
Laura: I haven't even announced that yet, Ron.
Ron: So what we're going to do is we're going to start leeching off of more successful podcasts, okay? And we're going to start stealing from them. So what I've done is I've prepared an intro in the style of the newsagent's successful podcast, okay?
Laura: Right.
Ron: So what's going to happen is they.
Laura: Don'T have 100 episodes.
Ron: They probably do. They release five times a week, sometimes six. Um, so what we're going to do is, so there's a bit that I'm going to read, then I'm going to say, welcome to Lex Education. Then the music's going to play, and then I'll say, it's Ron. And then you say it's Laura. And then we just get into it. Okay.
Laura: Okay. And this will be a really slick.
Ron: Yeah, that's how it goes. Right?
Laura: Okay.
Ron: Okay.
Lex Education has now reached 100 episodes, according to its listening statistics
Inventions are, uh, when a new thing comes into being. They famously all been invented now, otherwise Laura would be an inventor, not just a useless mother. But what are the best inventions and how did they come into being? Welcome to Lex Education. Music.
Laura: I'm Laura.
Ron: It's Ron.
Laura: Music.
Ron: No, music. It's Ron.
Laura: Wait, why? The music's not playing?
Ron: Well, yeah, that needs to be edited in.
Laura: No, I'm not. I haven't got it. So it won't be.
Ron: Yeah, music. No, not newsagent's music. Our music that's already played. Yeah, we'll play it again. Just a bit of it. Um, and also, um, this is a global player, global podcast needs to be said. I think you need to get Alexander Armstrong to say, um, uh, Lex education. But then I go, it's Ron, it's Laura. And then we just launch into it, okay? Should we do it again? A bit slicker?
Laura: No, I think that that was perfect. I think that that was the answer to all of the world's problems. It's our 100th episode. Do you know what, Ron? Feeling very proud of ourselves for hitting 100 episodes, I tried to google how many podcasts hit 100 episodes. Like, what percentage of podcasts? And 90% of podcasts never make it past the third episode.
Ron: Really?
Laura: Yeah. So we dropped, uh. We surpassed all expectations on day one. And also our listening figures, which we heavily bemoan a lot on this podcast and say that we're unsuccessful. We are still in the top 25% of podcasts. Given our listening statistics, that's pretty good.
Ron: But then does that work? But no, because if only 10% of podcasts make it longer than three episodes, does that mean there's 15% of podcasts that have three episodes that are more well listened to than our 100?
Laura: I think that those statistics are based on regular, um, release podcasts. That's what I choose to believe.
Ron: Okay. Okay.
Laura: Okay. Um.
Given it is our centenary episode, 140 full episodes are planned
So, given it is our centenary episode, 140 full episodes, we thought we'd do a little special. And we racked our brains. Racked our brains. And then last night, I was driving to Thames Ditton and back and I was thinking to myself, what are we going to do for this hundred episodes? And I tried to think about 100 in science. But as Ron has made clear, science isn't very 100 y. Science is all about the twelve s, man. Twelve s. What a system. So then I started to think about other ways. I thought, like, what? What's 100 on the periodic table? Is anything 100? Don't know. What's got 100 electrons? Nothing. Probably something has. So. And then I started googling 100s in science, and I found a lot of, uh, anniversaries of different museums that wasn't very interesting. But then I found a really cool book. Um, I found a cool book which. Oh, no, don't get rid of that. That is all of my new ideas for the tour. Um, I found a new cool book called the 100 greatest Science Discoveries by Handel Haven. And in this book, it's a kind of learning, um, accompaniment or, um, ideas book for teachers or people who teach science, aka us. And the author lists the 100 greatest science discoveries of all time. So I thought we could go through some of these. We're going to do 20 today and basically commit ourselves to 510 today. Ten today. Sorry, Ron. Ten today. Five each. Um, and we'll do ten of them. And then basically we're committing ourselves to a thousand episodes of Lex education in order to finish this list at some point. And that just makes everyone happy.
Ron: Yeah. So. Oh, I assumed that we were doing inventions because of the wheelbarrow and, ah, you as an inventor. I thought this was a celebration.
Laura: No, but I do have some m thoughts on that to come up later.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: A list of things that you would have invented accidentally. There is one in my list, Ron, that just made me go, oh, for fuck's sake. The world was so much easier to be a famous, cool, smart guy back in the day.
Ron: Mine are really dull. Apart from, like, two. Yeah.
Laura: Have we got the same ones? Did we accidentally do the same ones?
Ron: Number one, uh, levers.
Laura: Hang on. It really sounds like my child is on the stairs to my office. Well, we'll just cut that out. Number, uh, one, you go wrong.
Ron: Um, levers and buoyancy. That's not where you started.
Laura: We. We have not got the same grand.
Laura, what can you tell me about levers and buoyancy
Ron: Okay, Laura, what can you tell me about levers and buoyancy? And now I just want to brag straight off the bat, that's not one invention, that's two.
Laura: Did the same person invent both of them?
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Nobody invented buoyancy.
Ron: Well, when he discovered buoyancy.
Laura: Yeah. Um, what do I know about levers? I know that the further away from the fulcrum you push, the more bang for your buck you get.
Ron: Yep.
Laura: Um, so that's levers, isn't it? Buoyancy? Things float, didn't they?
Ron: Yeah, basically. So do you know who invented these things?
Laura: No one invented them. These are discoveries, Ron.
Ron: Someone invented levers.
Laura: No, they discovered levers.
Ron: What you think? What? There's fucking lever tree just grown wrong. Leba. And, um.
Laura: You think maltreats have leave first?
Ron: Not bad, not bad.
Laura: Um. Who? Um. Aristotle.
Ron: Close. Actually a small owl.
Laura: Uh, Archimedes.
Ron: It was Archimedes. Who was Archimedes?
Laura: Ah, I was thinking about his name yesterday. Archimedes.
Ron: That's a good name. Um, so he culturally greek. Ancient Greek is from a place called Syracuse. Do you know where Syracuse is?
Laura: Italy.
Ron: It is. It's in Sicily. Yeah. Well done, Laura.
Laura: Um, I listen to a lot of roman fiction.
Ron: I feel like Syracuse is also somewhere in America. Is it like a university or something?
Laura: Yeah, that's ringing a bell.
Ron: Yeah. I feel like you hear Americans also.
Laura: The way that Shakespeare characters, um. Um. Tell one another that they might have committed crimes, sir. Accuse you of murder in the first degree. Sirrah. Like that.
Ron: Is sir a Shakespeare character?
Laura: Yeah, no, it's, ah, like, sir.
Ron: Okay. Um. So, uh, old Archie, he was Laura. He was 26, um, when he.
Laura: 40. In modern age, 60 for a woman.
Ron: What makes you think that? What?
Laura: Well, just that was much older then, wasn't it? Now, at 26, you're still basically breastfeeding, but back then you are like full blown adult man.
Ron: Yeah. How old are you? I'm 28.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Basically breastfeeding, yeah, yeah. Um.
The buoyancy is how you work out the area under a graph
You brought it up. Um, yeah, he, uh, Archimedes, he was considered the greatest mathematician of the ancient world.
Laura: So did not discover zero.
Ron: No, that wasn't until a thousand years later. Um, no, he did buoyancy in levers, but he also, um, did, like, the first approximation of PI, um, cheesecake. Um, he also worked out, um, how to calculate the area of a circle and the volume of a sphere. And he anticipated calculus, um, getting the fundamentals right, but not necessarily working out the formula for it. And then that wasn't done until Newton, 2000 years later.
Laura: This guy's on it.
Ron: Yeah. Smart, smart boy. Do you know what calculus is, Laura?
Laura: No.
Ron: It's how you, uh, work out the area under a graph.
Laura: What do you mean by the area under a graph, Ron?
Ron: So if you have, like, a line on a graph, uh, and then you can use calculus by plugging in different bits and pieces to work out the area underneath it.
Laura: What do you mean, the area underneath it?
Ron: The area underneath the line. Isn't it just a triangle if it's a straight line?
Laura: Oh, yeah, it could be a different one, the one I was.
Ron: Straight line?
Laura: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um. Why would you ever need to know that, Ron? Has that come up a lot?
Ron: Yeah, really does. It's really, really important.
Laura: What for? What do you use that for?
Ron: It depends what the graph is showing you. But for example, like, if you had, um, a straight line that was, uh, uh, basically sort of showing you how many things happened each year. Let's say, um, it was, um, human deaths from a particular thing each year. The gradient of that line is the rate of deaths, and then the area underneath it would equal the total number of deaths that had happened. So you can.
Laura: Presumably, you'd need to have that information to have made the graph in the first place. Just write it down.
Ron: Well, no, because what? Because you plot, you plot each year, then you can use this to then work out how much it is in total.
Laura: Oh, great. Well, on Archimedes.
Ron: Yeah. Um, yeah. And then he. Do I have to explain what levers and buoyancy are? Do you know the story about the buoyancy?
Laura: Um, is it like the owl and the pussycat? The buoyancy once there was ladies.
Ron: Boy and see.
Laura: Boy and see. He's a boy and see. Best friends, couldn't be separated. Went out in his little boat.
Ron: Come on, Arthur. We've got to go out to the boy and see.
Laura: Yeah. No, a good name for a pub, wouldn't it? The boy and sea. A floating pub. You could call it the boy and see.
Ron: All right, pub on a boat. Yes.
Laura: Okay, yeah.
Ron: Any pub.
Laura: Let's start that in Bristol.
Ron: Buy it.
Laura: Buy it. All right. We get 5000 patrons. We'll start a pub in Bristol called the buoyancy.
Ron: Love it.
Laura: Maybe we should put this on the Patreon episodes ideas to go with coco brown and rusty sugar. The buoyancy. We could write some fiction about a mystery that happens in the buoyancy. Okay, I'm gonna put it on the Patreon ideas, Ron.
Ron: Okay.
Laura: Full of ideas.
Ron: I like that. More than starting a pub. Okay. No.
Archimedes was ordered by King Hiren to find out about gold theft
So, Archimedes, Archie boy, um, he was ordered by King, King Hiren, um, to find out whether a goldsmith had fucked him over, essentially.
Laura: I hope King Hiron was a really cool king. And then there was a bastard one called Firon.
Ron: He doesn't sound that cool. He sounds like a bit of a busy body fucking snoop, to be honest. Because essentially he gave a bunch of gold to a goldsmith and said, can you make me a solid gold crown? And then the crown comes back and it weighs the same as the gold that he'd given the lad. But for no reason in particular, the king suspects the goldsmith and says, no, you've just wrapped something else gold and made it weigh the same. So you've stolen a bunch of my gold. Um, and then he just like, basically just rings up the smartest guy he knows and he's like, Archie, I think I'm getting fucked over here. Can you put your massive brain on this problem and come solve it? So naturally, Archie goes for a bath to, um, mull things over in the water. Um, and essentially, um, with a little bit of rubber dub dub, he works out that the water goes up when Archie goes in and vice versa. Um, and then he puts the, um, uh, he puts the crown and some gold in the water and essentially works out that they have the same density and therefore they, uh, it was all made out of gold and the goldsmith was actually fine and the king was being weird and then he shouted, eureka.
Laura: Yes, I remember the Eureka bit. But presumably the king killed the goldsmith anyway, just to save face.
Ron: Uh.
Laura: That feels kingly.
Ron: They don't really mention the goldsmith again. So, yes, you can assume he's dead.
Laura: Dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead.
Ron: Goldsmith and I believe Archimedes also said, but it's not mentioned here, something about, um, um, uh. Give me a long enough lever and I could move the world, because basically, the longer the lever, the more power you have.
Laura: Hmm.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: But what they didn't know was he was talking about his duke. Well, thanks for that one, Ron.
The discovery that the sun is the centre of the universe was made in 1520
Do you want to hear my first one?
Ron: Yes.
Laura: My first, greatest scientific discovery of all time is the discovery that the sun is the centre of the universe. And we continued to believe that was true until the 28 September 1986, at which point what became the centre of the universe? We're on me. Um, I once got into trouble in an re lesson for claiming I was the centre of the univers. Um, anyway, this, um, was discovered in 1520 by a man called Copernicus, who I can't help but imagine as a goat. Um, I'm assuming there is something in something where there's a goat called Copernicus. What are you doing?
Ron: Why would there be a.
Laura: You're texting someone.
Ron: Why would there be a texting someone?
Laura: What are you doing? What are you doing?
Ron: I'm listening to you.
Laura: No, you're not. You were typing and you're doing something else. I can tell you're distracted.
Ron: Yeah, I'm organising, um, the pub on Friday.
Laura: Yeah, I knew you were busy.
Ron: Uh, Capricorn.
Laura: Maybe that's why I'm thinking of goats.
Ron: Copernicus is the name of a cat from the BoJack Horseman series.
Laura: M maybe that's what I'm thinking of. Anyway, so Copernicus, back in the 1520s, he sort of, um, had a look at the work of all other astronomers and compiled them and formalised looking at the stars, that kind of thing. Um, pre. Well, even during this time, actually, they all went along with Ptolemy's idea. So Ptolemy was one at. Ptolemy and Aristotle were the greek scientists that everyone just believed what they'd said, basically, for like, 1500 years. They just. Yeah. Um, they had the idea that the earth was still and the sun and the planets all revolved and go around the earth and that the stars were like, set in space, but they just kind of sat out on like a shelf further away. And that was the idea of what space was like. But then what had been happening over those 1500 years was that as more and more people studied what was going on, they had to, like, make adjustments to this model. So they had these epic circles and circles, uh, that these planets were doing and so they'd slightly adjust the model, but go, basically, it's absolutely right, except for this one's doing this, which is slightly different. So then by the time Copernicus is around, there's basically so many adjustments to the model that the whole model basically is falling apart and stuck together with sellotape and just cannot possibly be true. But because the church just were like, it's true, guys, they weren't allowed to question it. So even when they found, um, information that contradicted it, they were just like, so, you know, don't worry about it. Um, so Copernicus, like got really detailed and then because he was realising that more and more of these planets were moving, he started thinking like, hey, I wonder how all this looks if your on one of those moving planets. Whoa. What do the movements look like if you're moving?
Ron: Whoa.
Laura: And then his mind went swishwing. What if we're moving? Yeah.
Ron: Bum. Um.
Laura: Bum bum. It didn't happen in a bath. So slightly less filmic than the last one.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Um, but then he sort of like, went back to us. All his calculations.
Let's start casting these people. Who would you do Archimedes as
Ron: Let's start casting these people. Who would you do Archimedes as?
Laura: So, uh, what, he's 26?
Ron: He's 26. Big brain, big head. Probably to have his big brain. Maybe a Timothy Chalamet type, but no, he's too skinny. He wouldn't have moved the water that much.
Laura: What about a young John Lithgow? He's got a big head.
Ron: Ah. Uh, can we just have John Lithgow for all of them?
Laura: I kind of feel like Copernicus needs to be a bit meeker. Copernicus, I want, like a real pale man that's only ever awake at night looking at stars, like a little naked mole rat.
Ron: Maybe he could be Timmy Chalamet.
Laura: Yeah, but more anaemic. Paler. I want paler to be pretty anaemic. Yeah, but isn't he banging one of the cars?
Ron: What about Robbie Coltrane for Archimedes? He seems like a young Robbie Coltrane.
Laura: I don't pick.
Ron: I think he's a picture a minute bath. Yeah, but we need someone with mass. Need someone with mass so that the water moves up and down. Um.
Laura: Chris Farley, Green Mile.
Ron: Michael Clark Duncan.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: All right. Michael Clark Duncan is Archimedes. I see that. I like that. And then, um, Copernicus, I want to.
Laura: Really, really meek, like, um, the boy.
Ron: From the holdovers, maybe.
Laura: Who's the guy that's married to the woman from. He's in Fargo and he's married to William. Uh, h. Macy. That's who I want for Copernicus. That's exactly who I picture for Copernicus.
Ron: Oh, I love that guy. He looks like someone from cats, but all the time.
Laura: Yeah. Yeah. You happy with that?
Ron: Yeah. Like, if you told me that man's name was Rum Tum Tugger, I'd believe.
Laura: Yeah, right. He's Copernicus. Okay. So he's just hanging out. So he. He's.
Ron: I watched Fargo the other day.
Laura: Ah, so good.
Ron: Um, great film. Oh, he's married to Felicity Hoffman.
Laura: Yes. From desperate Housewives. That's what I was trying to say, but I couldn't remember anybody's names. So, yeah, basically he worked out that the planets all go around the earth. Um, and then, oh, he's been, like 20 years, just being only awake at night. Little, um, bush baby. And, um, he realised that the sun was the only thing that didn't vary in size over the course of the year. Um, so he was like, so the sun must be a fixed object, because that's the only one that's not changing. So then he was like, the distance from the earth to the sun has to always remain the same. And then he's like, so probably the sun's the middle. Um, and worked all of that around and it all worked out. But here's the thing about Copernicus, because the power of the church and the anti new ideas stuff was so strong, he never released his findings in his lifetime. So he just, like, worked all this out and sat on it and kept quiet.
How about Gabriel Byrne for Johannes Kepler? I don't know this guy
Ron: So, um, I'm actually going to skip to my number three here, Laura. Um, which is Johannes Kepler, um, because he invented in the year, or discovered in the year 1609, the planetary motion. So he was like the guy that took Copernicus's stuff and then took it on a bit further.
Laura: How about Gabriel Byrne for Johannes Kepler?
Ron: I don't know this guy.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: Um. Uh, I don't know. Let me. Let me tell you a bit about him. And then we start casting, because you're going completely off the name Johannes Kepler right now.
Laura: Yeah, pretty much. My next. My next option is Christoph waltz.
Ron: Um, yeah, volt is giving more. More Kepler to me because he is from southern Germany, whereas Christoph waltz is austrian, but not far off. Um, uh, so he was born in southern Germany 28 years after Copernicus discovered what he discovered. He had this weird upbringing where, like, his aunt was burnt at the stake for being a witch and they tried to burn his mum as well. Um, and then, uh, uh, this is.
Laura: Giving me more couldn't see, this is why he's a perma boy.
Ron: Perma boy?
Laura: Yeah. Just a permanent boy.
Ron: Yeah. And I don't think Christopher faults is a permanent boy. I think we need.
Laura: No, I said this is, uh, giving me Charlemagne.
Ron: Oh, uh, sorry, I was talking. I didn't, um. Yeah, effectively, um, he was the one that he discovered the concept of ellipses so that it weren't moving in perfect circles, which kind of sort of fixed, uh, some of the maths that was going on, and he kind of actually worked out how the planets were moving. Um, and 400 years later, we're still using his model. He got it right.
Laura: Well done, Kepler.
Ron: Yeah. Um, and when he was doing this, um. Where's the guy's name? M. Yeah, the catholic perch. The catholic church. We're burning people for believing what Copernicus said.
Laura: Yeah, there was, like, a friar that got burned.
Ron: Friar Giordano Bruno. Yeah.
Laura: Yes, that's it, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ron: Ah. Um, but, yeah, so, Kepler. I just wanted to get that one in at the end of the Copernicus thing.
Laura: Yeah, okay, brilliant.
Who do we want to be? Kepler. Congratulations, kepler. Let's do my third one. I would say sex education
Who do we want to be? Kepler.
Ron: Um, so, perma boy, but a bit european. I mean, Timmy the shall. He is french, but french and German is very different.
Laura: Yeah, real, real, real smart. Like we're still using this stuff now. He's got to be dogged, you know?
Ron: Um, um, Dominic Cesser.
Laura: Who the hell's that?
Ron: He's a new perma m boy from the holdovers.
Laura: Oh, he's a bit. Yeah, babes. I think he's giving me too many John Ralphie vibes. I can't make him. Seriously.
Ron: Okay, okay. Um, so he's defiant. He's still doing it even though people are getting burnt at the stake.
Laura: Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Ron: No, that's wrong. That's not it.
Laura: Okay.
Ron: But, uh. Oh, two horses are going past my window again.
Laura: This has happened before.
Ron: Yeah, it's the police again.
Laura: Uh, where are they off to?
Ron: The football.
Laura: What about ace the butterfield?
Ron: Oh, Hugo from the boy in the striped pyjamas.
Laura: Maybe?
Ron: Why that came up first.
Laura: I would say sex education. Yeah, he's a bit perma boy.
Ron: No, I like Asa Butterfield. We'll, uh, go here.
Laura: Butterfield it is. Congratulations, kepler. You have been cast.
Ron: Yeah, he's a perma boy for sure. Oh, my God, he's younger than me.
Laura: Let's do my third one.
Ron: He's so posh. His full name is Asa Bop Farr Butterfield.
Laura: Were they. Were they playing boppet at the time? Asa bop bop bop butterfeel um, we're gonna jump to my third one, too.
Ron: Asa bob far butterfield.
Laura: Asa bop f butterfield um, just because this one also ties in with those three. Um, uh, it's Galileo. Ron.
Ron: Sorry, I'm not listening. I was looking at Emma Mackey's beautiful face.
Laura: Yeah, she's got a nice face.
In 1610, Galileo discovers that Jupiter has moons
Um, yeah, I'm going to jump to my third one. I've got two galileos. This is the second of them. But this one ties in more closely with the ones we were just talking about. And then I'll go back to the other one. So, in 1610, Galileo discovers that Jupiter has moons. Um, and this was the first discovery that other planets have moons, because prior to this, they were all just going along with what Aristotle said about nothing has moons except the earth.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Um, and then he was, like, basically got really into telescopes. So, um, yeah, telescopes were, like, just being invented at this time. And then he managed to invent one that was more powerful or sort of created one that was more powerful. But the guy, um, Hendell Haven, the guy writing this, he did a thing in this that really made me viscerally feel what it must have been like to have these discoveries invented, because he has a line here that he says he turned specks of light in the night sky into fascinating spherical objects, into places rather than pinpricks of light. And that's the first time I've had it sort of hammered home that the discovery that these things were places just immediately expands so rapidly and hugely and uncomprehensively. Your concept of existence, that growing up just knowing that they're places and they're miles away, the horizon of your mind is much, much bigger, but that this just had to occur to people.
Ron: Yeah, that's a really interesting way to put it.
Laura: Yeah, I think he's done that really well there.
Ron: It's so interesting into places how human knowledge builds on it, like, on things like that. Um, because, like, yeah, because you, like, partially, you have stuff like that where, you know, we grew up knowing that other planets were things you could stand on and stuff, and then they are physical places, um, and not just kind of concepts in the sky or whatever, but then also you've got, like, the fact that, like, generations like us and below, like, know how to use, like, smartphones and stuff. And, like, what that's gonna open up to people because, like, there's not gonna have to be that learning curve, uh, for them in those sort of things. And, like, we understand what the Internet is and other people don't and, like, how many more of those there are to come?
Laura: Yeah, it's fascinating. It was a real moment of going, yeah, wow.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: What a weird second m that must have been in his realisation, just like you just whomp the expansion of everything that was possible. Um, so he also, along with Kepler, spent a long time proving Copernicus right. Um, found moons and, like, tracking the planets and stuff. And he was put on trial, um, where Copernicus had kept quiet. And obviously Bruno has been, um, think Galileo was put on trial. He was forced to recant his findings and he was put on house arrest until his death. Um, and then this blew my mind. This blew my mind in the opposite direction. 1 second you're having this realisation that human beings in 1610 were going, fuck me. Those dots over there are places and it could theoretically be possible to go there. And the church did not rescind to the condemnation of Galileo and his discoveries until when, Ron?
Ron: Uh, was it the latest nice one that loves to gaze in that? Was it, like, 2019?
Laura: It was 1992, yeah.
Ron: Ah.
Laura: 376 years after they incorrectly condemned him.
Ron: I always loved stuff like that. Well, I don't love it, the sickening, but it's always interesting to hear. One of the worst ones are those I've ever heard. Um, my friend Eve, um, studied aboriginal, uh, culture in Australia as part of her, um, degree. And, uh, aboriginal people were still on the official list of australian fauna, that is, animals until 1976.
Laura: Jesus Christ.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: Humans can just. They can just make you feel so many different directions all at once.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron says he wants to cast Andreas Visalius as Galileo
Laura: What's your third one, Ron?
Ron: So my third one, which is actually my second one, um, is a bit of a vague one, uh, which is just human anatomy.
Laura: Oh.
Ron: So Andreas Visalius. Visalius, um, a belgian man, um, from the 16th century, uh, he basically turned, you know, one of the sort of the fathers of medicine, really, um, because he started, um, applying, yeah, scientific method to these things. Less of a. Oh, the humours and the leeches and bad spirits and stuff. So, um, his father was a doctor. He was born in Brussels. He went to Paris to then, um, study medicine. And there was a lot of, um, dissection. Ah, no, there wasn't, um, a lot of dissection, um, done to start studying these things. But essentially he started doing that. He, um, was a bit of a. Not to get ahead on. Oh, we haven't cast Galileo yet.
Laura: Oh, yeah.
Ron: Um, Galileo.
Laura: Hmm. M I might need some reason.
Ron: I just imagine Galileo being quite handsome.
Laura: Yeah. My instinct has gone to poldark, as it always does. What's his name? Aiden Turner. Yeah, that might be just because he played da Vinci and something recently.
Ron: Mmm m. Yeah, let's not leech off that too hard.
Laura: Who's that man? He's handsome. Raul Bover. Hmm. Italy's sexiest man alive. I believe you. Italy. Um, yeah, and he's got to go on trial, so he's got to kind of be a bit spunky, hasn't he?
Ron: Yeah, he's defiant again.
Laura: Um, and rugged, maybe, but again, a bit of just a night owl nerd, uh, looking at telescopes.
Ron: Yeah, he's got to be smart with it. Like, you could imagine a cumberbatch type at the peak of his.
Laura: Yeah, but I want him to be more italian.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: You know, an Italian. Benedicto.com barbaccio. Yeah, that's what I want.
Ron: For some reason, my. My Gregor head has obviously gone to Ewan, but, uh, obviously we'll save him for later on. Um, if we could go. Aidan Turner. He looks kind of, uh.
Laura: No, no, we're not bitching out, Ron.
Ron: Um, mediterranean punks. They're all AI. They're all AI hunks.
Laura: Who was that guy in call? My agent. He could be good. Um, beep boo doo doo doo doo. I'll find him. What's his name?
Ron: I don't know if this is a rogue shell, but what about Steven manganese? Oh, because he's kind of nerdy but handsome and he's got sort of floppy italian looking hair.
Laura: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me just find this guy and you can have a look at him and see what you think. That's that Assad blab. I'm sending you a link. He's french. Oh, uh, mother is french, father is m moroccan.
Ron: Uh, yes, he can.
Laura: How do you feel about him?
Ron: He can be Galileo.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Yes, he is Galileo. Um, great.
Andreas Vesalius was brilliant but arrogant and argumentative
All right, back to, uh, um, what's his name? Uh, Andreas Vesalius. So, yeah, that's what I was saying. Not to get ahead on the casting for him, but he seems, um, like almost kind of a, uh, sort of a Gregory house kind of character because it says that he was quickly recognised as brilliant but arrogant and argumentative. During the second dissection he attended, Vesalius snatched the knife from the barber and demonstrated both his skill at dissection and his knowledge of anatomy to the amazement of all in attendance. But essentially there's not loads more. He basically, he didn't have, like, a big breakthrough, um, like other ones on the list have had. He more just applied scientific method to something that had been fairly unorganised and kind of, um, you know, alternative medicine y beforehand. But his, his great work was dehumani corporis fabrica libri septum, which was, you know, one of the first texts on human anatomy.
Laura: Okay, I'm picturing Alexander Armstrong.
Ron: See, I'm just picturing a young Hugh Laurie.
Laura: Well, let's go young Hugh Laurie then. Let's house him up.
Ron: Yeah, house him up. That's the vibe that he's giving.
Galileo proved that heavier objects don't fall faster than lighter ones
Laura: Um, I'm gonna go back to my number two now, Ron. This is the one that annoyed me more than anything else and led to me having, um, a whinge at Tom for a while. Um, it's Galileo again. So, um, 1598. This is before he finds out about his moons.
Ron: Oh, so we need a younger person then aside.
Laura: No, we'll just. You can age down people.
Ron: We'll de age him. Okay.
Laura: Yeah, it's only twelve years. We'll just de age him using, um. Or we'll film this bit and then we'll wait twelve years and we'll film the next bit.
Ron: Yep. Yeah, yeah.
Laura: Smart. He, um, realised that heavier objects don't fall faster than lighter objects. Um, so he was 24 year old mathematics professor at the University of Pisa and, um, basically spent quite a lot of time sitting around in the cathedral.
Ron: Oh, I know about this watching stuff.
Laura: And he was watching lamps swinging, I assume, like the incense lamps, you know, and they sort of swing in catholic processions, I think. And then being bored, decided to, like, time the swings of the lamps using his pulse, and basically realised that all the lamps were swinging at the same speed. Um, and then he was like, oh, that's kind of interesting. Started playing about with heavier lamps and getting people to swing two lamps and different things and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and basically found out that they always took exactly the same amount of time to travel through a complete arc. No matter how big or small the lamp was, they were travelling at the same speed. Um, so up until this point, Aristotle had stated that heavier objects fall faster because they weigh more. And then Galileo basically, like, stood on a desk in front of all of his pupils and he had two bricks that he'd cemented together and a single brick dropped them at the same time and they hit the ground at the same time and it was like, boom. Did the heavy one fall faster? And everyone was like, no. Oh, my God. So basically, Galileo invented checking to see if you should just believe what a man said 1500 years ago. Fucking this annoyed me so much. No one had checked for 1500 years. No one checked, Ron. All you had to do was drop two things. No one did it for 1500 fucking years. This is what I mean when I say there was low hanging fruit to gather back in the day.
Ron: But are you convinced that you could explain back in day why dropping a brick and a feather, they don't hit the ground at the same time?
Laura: No, but you could drop two things that were of a similar ilk.
Ron: But then I think the argument would be, no, the heavier one did hit the ground sooner, but it was just imperceptible. It was like we can't tell we're simple peasants and we're pissed off our tits because there's no clean water. So we drink beer all day.
Laura: I just think in 1500 years, no one dropped two bricks.
Ron: I'm not saying you're wrong. I think someone should have maybe checked sooner. And you know what?
Laura: There's probably Aristotle had it so fucking easy. Just said a load of stuff and was a bloke ages ago and everyone.
Ron: Went and I don't know this, maybe I'm being flippant, but this sounds like one of those times where, like, white people hadn't checked. But there were probably like 120 Arabs that had already proved all of this stuff. Uh, like in Baghdad, they're just dropping bricks and double bricks everywhere and watching them hit the ground at the same time.
Laura: Yeah, selling like, feathers and bricks to white tourists. They really believe that they're falling at different speeds.
Ron: Um. Idiot. Yeah. I don't know that to be true, but, ah, that's what I was mentioning.
Laura: That one really annoyed me. Of all that, there were five in my list. I found them all pretty interesting. That one was just like, jesus Christ.
Ron: Um.
Laura: You can't just spend a millennia and a half just trusting a guy.
Ron: No, but then if you think about religion, that's kind of all people did back then and still do.
Laura: People still do it mad.
William Harvey discovered the function of the human circulatory system
Ron: Um, so the next one that I've got, Laura, is again, um, uh, another anatomical one. Um, so this one is the human circulatory system. Um, so this was by, like, the.
Laura: M 25, but for staying alive.
Ron: That rhymes.
Laura: The M 20 live.
Ron: The M 20 live. Um, so this is, uh. This was done by William Harvey. Um, it doesn't actually say where he's from. I'm just double checking so that we can cast him. Well, he was English and. Yep, uh, English around, like in Shakespeare times, he's got the big rough one. Uh, uh, basically, yeah. Ah, he discovered the actual function of the circulatory system. So what the heart does what the lungs do, what the arteries and the veins and all of that stuff. Because previous to that, you know, we, it was all kind of vibes based. Um, you know, there was a lot of liquid in us and we knew that the liquid was important, but people didn't really know sort of what it was doing or. Yeah, or what was kind of the, um, purpose of it. It was kind of built on the original sort of musings again, 1500 years before, of a greek physician called Galen, um, who said that food was converted into blood in the liver and then the body ate the blood.
Laura: Interesting.
Ron: Um, and then, yeah, uh, William Harvey went to Oxford, so he's a bit posh. And then he went to study in Italy, uh, acknowledged as the medical centre of Europe. And then, yeah, he just focused his studies on the veins and the arteries. Lots of cutting upper corpses everywhere. He's the guy that discovered flap valves and stuff. So that he knew that the pipes were all one way. He knew that it flay, uh, it flowed in veins only from the arms and the legs back to the heart. It worked out the direction of it all. Um, because, yeah, we had no idea what's going on before. Beforehand, people thought that, uh, you know, the thumping of, um, the heart in your chest was the voice of your conscience and things like this, which is why it started beating faster in certain things.
Laura: Oh, um, that's so interesting.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: I'm picturing grim, a wormtongue.
Ron: Interesting.
Laura: Like a gross little guy just cutting up bodies.
Ron: I do like that actor. He's good. Um, all right, yeah. Let's find out his name and then it can be him. Brad durif. Oh, he was in all of the Chucky movies.
Laura: Oh, yeah, he really was.
Ron: Yeah, that's kind of his thing. More than.
Laura: Yeah. And dune, when the exorcist one flew over the cookies nest.
Ron: He's been in good stuff.
Laura: And he likes to be a creepy fuck, doesn't he?
Ron: I think that would be such a pleasure to be like an actor and just be the creepy guy. What a, what a great thing to be cast type as, because it, you know, you'd be in various different things. You could be in action movies, horrors, comedies, but you're still, you're just known for a thing.
Laura: We can't really do that though, Ron, because we've got resting smiley face.
Ron: Do we?
Laura: Yeah, we just always look approachable.
Ron: Yeah. I'm too handsome to be a creepy.
Laura: Guy and, um, I just smile all the time.
Ron: Yeah.
Ron: I thought this was about inventions. I thought it was inventions. Why did you let me do that whole intro about invention
Laura: All right. My fourth one, Ron, is the discovery. Uh, of air pressure.
Ron: Oh, it's. Should have fucking vetted this list, man, before we commit to this episode.
Laura: No, this one was interesting. All of mine interested me. This was the first one. I didn't really fully understand.
Ron: My thing with, um, uh, my thing with the last two that I've done is just like. I feel like it's a bit. I don't know if we can call it sort of an invention or whatever, because it's more just like. I don't know. It feels like nature invented it with nature.
Laura: It's not inventions, Ron. It's discovery.
Ron: I thought it was inventions.
Laura: I don't know why you. No, it's.
Ron: Then why did you let me do that whole intro about invention?
Laura: I didn't know you were going to do that whole intro about inventions. You didn't tell me what it was until it was happening.
Ron: You let me do the book.
Laura: It's called the 100 greatest Science Discoveries. And in the intro to the book, he talks about the difference between discoveries and inventions.
Ron: I clearly red inventions where it says discoveries. I was talking about you wanting to be an inventor because I thought this was about inventions.
Laura: It was weird. We all just nodded for a while.
Ron: I've been doing this whole thing being a bit perturbed, because none of these are fucking inventions.
Laura: No, they're discovering. Why didn't we do it on, uh, inventions?
Ron: I thought it was gonna be like the helicopter, the pacemaker, uh, the combustion engine.
Laura: The helicopter was invented by about 50 different people because it's so fucking obvious. Romans had helicopter.
Ron: You're thinking of Da Vinci. Romans didn't have the wheelbarrow, mate. No way they could vent a helicopter.
Laura: I know. That was my joke. Ron. Oh, my God. Where are you today?
Ron: I'm in invention land when I should have been down Discovery Avenue, and I'm.
Laura: Yeah, well, my mind is. And, um, come with me down air. Ah, pressure avenue. Because it's 1640. And we've got evangelista Torricelli, um, who I was hoping might be a woman, but it is a man called Evangelista women. Maybe we could cross section number 100.
Ron: On this list will be feminism. And then it's only after that that women started inventing stuff. Not inventing stuff, discovering stuff.
Laura: Sorry. But m. We could cross cast this one. Like that Bob Dylan film where Cate Blanchett was.
Ron: Bob Dylan. What about, um. What about Eva Mendes?
Laura: Well, let me tell you about them first, Ron. Let me tell you about them before you cast them. So, this was the discovery that air has weight, which just, you know, you're busy doing other things. You're not thinking about the weight of air because we can't feel it because we're born into it.
Do you think dolphins can't feel the sea? Yeah. I find that hard to imagine
Okay, so basically, Torricelli, what?
Ron: Um. Do you think dolphins can't feel the sea?
Laura: Yeah. Probably because they're just so used to it.
Ron: That freaked me out.
Laura: I'd imagine everything in the sea doesn't really think about it because that's just what it is. Yeah.
Ron: It's just occurred to me that they don't kind of bob around thinking, God, I'm wet.
Laura: No, no. If anything, they're like, oh, I'm dry when they're dry.
Ron: Yeah. Uh, uh. Yeah. Okay. Freaked out.
Laura: But sometimes I think that about fish. Fish aren't always holding their breath. I find that hard to imagine.
Ron: Yeah, they don't have lungs. They can't, they couldn't go if they wanted to.
Laura: No. How on earth do you know if a fish is surprised?
Ron: Yeah, because they've always got that face on them as well. Yeah.
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Maybe they'd be gasping the whole time if they, if they could.
Laura: Maybe fish aren't like that when they can't see us, but they're just so surprised by us when we're around that, I don't know.
Ron: Fish always give off a very chill vibe to me because you always see, like, um, you always see videos of coral reefs and that, and there'll be like a shark going through it. And that shark fuck up any cunt it could see there. But the fish just kind of chill around them. Like they leave a very small berth around the shark when the shark goes through, you know, and it's.
Laura: Yeah, but then if you think about people walking on the pavement next to cars, cars could come and kill us.
Ron: But, yeah, but you'd never see, like a lion walk through a herd of zebra like that. They'd scatter.
Laura: No, but you do sometimes. You do sometimes see, like, a leopard going up to a water hole to drink. And other animals are so thirsty that they're just doing it and they're kind of like, I can see the leopard and they know they can outrun.
Ron: Yeah, but none of the fish in the reef are thirsty, you know, like, it's, I think it's because I think about this all the time. I think it's because they can escape in three directions.
Laura: Maybe that's why they're always gasping.
Ron: Yeah. Anyway, sorry.
Laura: Fish don't give off a chill vibe to me. They give off, uh, absolutely paralysed by fear, but in the thickest body you.
Ron: Could imagine because you can do nothing but project.
Laura: Well, you're projecting by saying they're chill.
Ron: Why aren't they chill, though? I'm chilling.
Laura: No, I'm not saying there can't be.
Ron: But you, I gave an example. You're going off vibespaced.
Laura: Yeah, I'm usually right. Anyway, Evangelista Torricelli was an assistant for Galileo. Oh, I'm bored of Galileo at some.
Ron: Point, but at least we can sock launch, uh, this guy via the Galileo film, you know?
Laura: Yeah.
Ron: Backdoor pilot.
Laura: Yeah, well, Galileo is not doing planet stuff at this point. Early on, Galileo is using a vacuum pump to get water out of a well and doing a test with that, and they're pumping and pumping and pumping the water out and then, but every time it gets to a certain level, it all collapses and the water, they can't get it up to a certain level. And Galileo's theory at the end of this experiment was that the weight of the water causes the column of water to collapse above a certain height. Weight like the water can't go high because it's too heavy and it falls down. Um, later on, Torricelli is not his assistant anymore and is doing experiments on his own and wants to test this theory. So does it by using a heavier liquid. So starts working with liquid mercury, and he's like, so liquid mercury is something like 13 times heavier than water. So it should collapse at, uh, this point in the tower, it should collapse lower. And he finds that it does. Next day, he's repeating the test to cheque something else and he gets a different result. The mercury won't come up to the same point that it went to the day before. It's coming up much lower. And the only difference was that it was an incredibly stormy day that day. The weather was wild and tempestuous, lots of atmospheric pressure. So he theorised that it was the atmospheric pressure that was pushing the liquid and forcing it to move. So when the air has a different force, different amounts of liquid move. And, um, basically this was the beginning of serious study of weather and the atmosphere and our understanding of the atmosphere and paved the way for Newton and gravity and all of that sort of stuff. Um, and I think, yes, Torricelli went on to invent the barometer.
Laura: I don't like Javier Bodham's face
Ron: Yeah, well, uh, my last one, Laura.
Laura: Hang on, we haven't cast evangelista Torricelli.
Ron: Uh, who are you thinking? Javier bardem?
Laura: Well, oh, quite, yeah, quite serious.
Ron: Yeah.
Laura: This one's awake, like in the daytime hours, so, Javier. Yeah. Hmm. I don't like Javier Bodham's face. It's too big.
Ron: I thought he liked big faced men. Like the beast from beauty and the beast.
Laura: M it's not the size of his face that is appealing. It's his gruff development from asshole to brilliant. Um, I m wonder what he looked like in real life. There weren't photos, obviously, but. Oh, no. Like a baby in a costume.
Ron: Evangelista. Uh, torocelli. David Mitchell. Paul Giamatti. Paul Giamatti.
Laura: David Mitchell. No, David Mitchell is absolutely correct. In a costume. Gosh. Uh oh. Horrible. Yeah, I'm gonna close that page and never google him again.
Ron: Oh, my God. Wait. I found one picture where he really looks like a moon.
Laura: No offence. David Mitchell.
Ron: Uh, look at this. He looks like a moomin that's in anonymous.
Laura: Oh, he does. Oh, um, no.
Ron: Uh, uh, uh, I assume you saw this one which led you to say he looks like a baby in a costume.
Laura: Yeah, that is exactly the one where he looks like a baby in a.
Ron: Costume, but also like Paul Simon for a large swathes of the sixties and seventies.
Laura: Yeah, because he's really wearing like a seventies mohair coat. Ugh, those pink, pink lips.
Ron: What a pretty little boy.
Laura: Boy. Old man. He is an old boy. Baby. Man child. Grown up. Oh, uh, yuck. Ah. I think David Mitchell has spot on.
Ron: David Mitchell or Papa Moon, depending on. Maybe there could be flashbacks where the.
Laura: Most recent baby to have been born at the time.
Ron: Throw a bunch of pubes at the last baby born and then roll them onto sand.
Robert Boyle invented Boyle's law which is essentially just a formalisation
Um, okay, well, so my last one, Laura, which does follow on quite well from, uh, what, um. Uh, you just said. There is Boyle's law, um, which was invented by Robert Boyle and therefore I can picture no one but John Truglio. I don't know how to pronounce it. Charles Boyle from Brooklyn nine nine playing him, um, in the film. But it's essentially just a formalisation almost of what you've said there. It's that the volume of a gas is inversely proportional to the force squeezing it. M yes, Matt, you realise when you're reading, when you hear about a bunch of these lads, one after the other, that quite how much sort of nepotism ah, there is or was in, in the world. Um, Robert Boyle, I think is. Yeah, Robert Boyle was the son of an earl and a member of the British Scientific Society. Uh, he was. Do you remember Hook? Hook's law. He did the springs. We learned about that, which I'm just.
Laura: About to do about Hook.
Ron: Oh, maybe a different hook. Robbie Hook and Robbie Boyle, they were mates. M he read, um, yeah, paper. The springiness of air and then went on to formalise it. I'll be honest, it was my number five and I found it too boring to read into m. Oh, well, don't.
Laura: Worry, Ron, because Robert Hooke is my final fifth one and it's good that it's fifth because it's the, um, discovery of the existence of cells, which is right up your street. We love biology.
Bobby Hook was homeschooled because parents didn't think he'd survive childhood
So Bobby Hook, um, I don't know who we want to get to play him. He was weak and sickly as a child and basically so ill that his parents just didn't educate him because they didn't think he'd survive childhood. So they were like, don't bother. So he was proper secret gardening, you know that, like lad in the bed.
Ron: You educate me.
Laura: Yeah. Um, so when he was still alive at eleven, his dad was like, oh, go on then, we'll homeschool you, but you're not going to an actual school, you'll die on the way. So they homeschooled him and then he was a bit of a, um, bit of a Matt Damon in that chalkboard one, um, where he was just really good at stuff. So his dad died when he was twelve and that's it. He inherited 100 pounds and so he, um, paid to go to Westminster school and he did some painting or he saw someone painting and he was like, oh, that looks good, I want to have a go at painting. Had a goat painting. He was really good at it. Then he went to Westminster and the guy was playing the organ and he was like, oh, I want to play the organ. And he did and he was really, really good at it. And then the Puritans like, shut down music and he left Westminster. I'm not really sure why. Um, and then he got a job being a servant to some science students at Oxford and this is kind of how he got into the scientific world. So he's not too nepotistic because it wasn't like his dad was Earl or anything. He got there by being someone's, um, servant.
Ron: More of a faramir than a boromir.
Laura: Yeah, absolutely. And he, um, showed enough prowess and was like good enough in and around the people doing science that he was hired onto the staff of the Royal Society. Um, and then I think microscopes had not long been invented, um, and they were not that powerful and the more powerful they were, the less focused they were, I think. So it's really all like they had to be super focused if they were super powerful. So basically he was really good at ah, helping them design different microscopes. Um, so he helped, um, in the development of a 300 power microscope, and they started looking at the structure of things. Um, and he was really good because he's good at painting, he's good with art. Ah, and he's interested in all the science. He, um, created studies of flies eyes, like, the way they worked, you could see it under a microscope and painting that and butterfly wings and stuff. And then in 1664, he's microscoping a bit of dried cork, and he finds out that it's made up of these tightly packed little holes. Because cork has large cells. So because it has large cells, they were easier to see in these rudimental microscopes. Um, so he could see them. Um, and, yeah, that basically led to the discovery that everything is made up of cells. Obviously, some of them are smaller than cork, and cork, they could see easier. But then they took that and they moved it across. Now, he's the one that termed them cells. So the idea that they were chambers that stood in a row, um, because they were empty in the cork, so they looked empty. And he theorised that they were, um, empty because the cork was dead and that they would have been filled with fluid when the cork was alive. And he was correct and basically came up with that. And then scientists were like, hang on a minute, this is amazing. And then took that information and ran with it and discovered cells and everything.
Ron: I love that. That gives me the same feeling as what you were saying about Galileo dropping the stuff off the tower and stuff, because, like, that's literally the kind of science you. Well, uh, when you're a kid like me, and you got given a, um, microscope every other Christmas and stuff, and then, yeah, you, like, you'd literally just be like, right, I'm gonna look at this under the microscope, and then just like, cheque that out. And then right now I'm gonna look at this. But back then, that was literally the bleeding edge of science to look at it. Uh, we were on the piss last night. We had some red wine, I guess. Let's, uh, look at the corks under the microscope so that we can claim it on expenses.
Laura: Yeah. Your last minute Christmas present was like a Nobel prize. Yeah, back then, yeah. I really enjoyed this, Ron. I'm sad we have to wait another hundred episodes to do another one.
Ron: Who we casting for? Hook? Last but not least, we never went gender swapped.
Laura: Yeah, no, we didn't, did we? We want a spunky, yet sickly determined and artistic, um, inventor type.
Ron: Yeah. Um.
Laura: Jenna Ortega.
Ron: I mean, Jenna Ortega, for me, is more like one of the ones that was up all night, but that might just have been because of Wednesday.
Laura: Yeah, she's got owlish eyes, very nocturnal.
Ron: What about, um. Um, I'm gonna google starlets of today. M.
Laura: Um, a young person dunst.
Ron: I've never heard of the number one Mia wazikowska.
Laura: Don't know.
Ron: Oh, this list is from 2014. That's explaining some things. Okay. Um, uh, Jessica Chastain. She's got kind of a sickly vibe to her. Has?
Laura: Ah, she. I thought she was the curvy one.
Ron: No comment. I don't know. Why did starlets of today bring up a list from 2014 that's ten years old?
Laura: I don't know any of these people. She's got Lyme disease.
Ron: Oh, she does look ill. Yeah. Uh, okay.
Laura: She'S very skinny.
Ron: Yeah, she looks kind of like the, um, the arm of a chair. Yeah.
Laura: But a really nicely carved one.
Ron: Yeah, one that's had, like, a hand on the end of it for a long time.
Laura: Yeah. Or Nate, but you don't want to sit on it for too long.
Ron: Um, yeah, like the. The chair at your grandma's house that's just kind of in the conservatory, but you've never seen anyone actually use it.
Laura: Yeah. And one day you'll inherit it, and then it'll just take up a corner of your house and you'll be like, oh, I don't want it, but it belongs to a dead person.
Ron: Happy 100 episodes, everyone. Um, well, thanks for coming, everyone
Ron: Um.
Laura: Um, well, thanks for coming, everyone. Happy 100 episodes. I've had a really nice time, Ron. Yeah, I've had a really nice time.
Ron: Oh, I just remembered what we did for the 50th. We went through all the previous episodes.
Laura: Did we?
Ron: Yeah, we should have done that. Maybe we'll do that on the patreon.
Laura: Yeah, no, we'll do that on 50 episodes. So at 150, we'll do that again. And at 200, we'll do some more of these. We've got so many more episodes to come. Anyway, thank you for listening. If this is your first listen and you've enjoyed it, go back to episode one and listen to all of them. They're best enjoyed in order. And, um, then catch up with us once you've binged it all. And we love you. And, um, become a patron. And I'm working on the tea towel. And good, um, luck to you and all your endeavours.
Ron: 100. Dismissed.
Laura: Oh, no.
Ron: The concept of change should be spelled out Delta instead of triangle
Before we go, Ron, actually, I got a message from, um, Jones, that person whose name I never know how to pronounce, explaining shounds it's one of the papers. Shauns listening, um, to Greg ahead a couple of episodes ago, and I said that the concept of change should be spelled out Delta instead of using a triangle for the first time. He explained to me here that the triangle is a greek capital letter and the letter is called Delta.
Ron: No, I've told you that a hundred times.
Laura: No, because they said in the message, I don't remember Ron ever explaining the details of it in the letter.
Ron: Go back to the first one. Go back to the original MacDeath thing. I'd have told you that.
Laura: Don't think you did.
Ron: No, I'm sorry, but no, we all agree you didn't.
Laura: So, um. There we go. End of the episode. Lovely days. Thanks, everyone, for being amazing.
Ron: 100. Dismissed.
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